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Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Cubnut on Tue, 05/25/2010 - 9:26pm

The Cubs beat the Dodgers, 3-0, on Tuesday night as Ryan Dempster outdueled Clayton Kershaw. Derrek Lee had a single, double, and two-run homer, and drove in all three Cub runs.

It was Dempster's first victory since April 23rd, Lee's first three-RBI game since April 16th, and his first three-hit game since the fourth game of the season way, way, way back on April 9th. 

Dempster held the Dodgers to three singles and fanned seven over eight innings. He looked capable of going the route, but Lou Piniella gave the ball to Carlos Marmol in the ninth, and the Cub closer made quick work of Russell Martin, Matt Kemp, and Manny Ramirez to secure the win. 

Kershaw was pretty impressive as well. He held the Cubs to four hits and just one, unearned run in his six innings. He threw 104 pitches, however, and as Jon Weisman at Dodger Thoughts tweeted during the game, Kershaw is on a pace that would have him throwing more pitches in a season than any pitcher age 23 or younger since 2000.

Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews, Brian Campbell, and Adam Burish were in attendance Tuesday night. In their honor, here the 3 stars of the game:

Third Star...Clayton Kershaw. (Over his last four starts, spanning 28 1/3 IP, his ERA is 0.64.)
Second Star...Derrek Lee (Could he finally be regaining his stroke?)
And the #1 Star of the Game...Ryan Dempster (Now has a 15-inning shutout string vs. L.A.)

Game two in the series will be tomorrow night, when Tom Gorzelanny goes up against Chad Billingsley.

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#1 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Mornington Crescent on Tue, 05/25/2010 - 10:21pm.

This time it will be the Cubs who will move their radio broadcasts. The Cubs will broadcast on WIND when the Blackhawks have a Stanley Cup game on WGN.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...

#2 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by artskoe on Tue, 05/25/2010 - 11:23pm.

During the bottom of the ninth CSN showed a pretty young lady in the stands almost in prayer after Marmol threw his first pitch. THAT is a smart young lady, and it tells a lot more than announcer Len Kasper picked up. Everyone wanted a Dempster win and should have been allowed a chance at the complete game. Marmol was lights out tonight but hasn't been lately, allowing more than his share of base runners in his last 10 or so appearances. It worked out Okay and the complete game does not hold the importance it once did. CSN did not cut to the bullpen to show if Marshall sat down when the 9th inning began. However Dempster mentioned post game how important it was to win this game in front of the Blackhawks in the first row. With a 3-zip lead, how important to the rest of the season, and tomorrow night, would it have been to shut the Dodgers down with a complete game? Dempster is old school. But Lou has withered on the vine. With just 6 hits, 3 of them coming from D. Lee, any boost builds momentum. Seize the day, Lou. Stop saying "F**** ME," get some guts and go for the jugular when you are up against Torre. Save Marmol for when you are up by one. Take every edge you can until you win the Series. There, I said it and I meant it. Go Cubs.

#3 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Jumbo on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 3:52am.

Lou has had a nasty habit of leaving Dempster in one inning too long, so it didn't bother me to see Marmol. Also, Marmol has looked pretty good to me. He still walks/hits too many, but he's striking out 75/9 Innings so I'd say it's working. And yes, Lou should not be back next season.

#5 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Eric S on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 5:39am.

"However Dempster mentioned post game how important it was to win this game in front of the Blackhawks in the first row."

If this is a factor, better lineup more hockey players for future Dempster starts. May as well throw in some SI swimsuit models, midgets and chimps on ponies, etc. - whatever it takes.

#16 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Charlie on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 9:49am.

Headline: "With Addition of Swimsuit Models, Cubs Payroll Passes Yankees (Pirates Have Mixed Feelings)"

#17 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Ryno on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 10:07am.

And they can catch a ball more reliably than Soriano.

#8 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Old and Blue on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 7:49am.

I think it's important for any team with playoff aspirations to establish a front-line closer. If you bring in Marmol, and he can't close the door on a 3-0 lead in the ninth, then Lou may as well find that out now, because it means the team is pretty much sunk. A complete game is just not a big deal in the 21st century.

#9 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Steve Christmas on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 7:59am.

Marmol is great. This post is not. Some people complain because, . . ., well, . . . (OK I have no idea and do not care) Go Cubs.

#13 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Doug Dascenzo on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 9:05am.

I agreed with bringing Marmol in for 2 reasons:

1) Dempster did his job, and you want to make sure you take him out on a high note rather than risk letting one inning spoil the party.

2) It's good to get Marmol some easy* saves every now and then. He's had enough of the 4-5 out, 1 run save chances. Give him a nice 3-run lead to protect.

*Not that facing the heart of the Dodgers' order is easy.

#14 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Sweet Lou on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 9:07am.

Marmol makes me nervous, but I think bringing him in in that situation was the right thing to do.

#4 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Cubster on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 5:37am.

Sullivan speculates on Cashner as being added as a power arm for the pen and uses this Hendry quote on Cashner...

"He has had three outstanding starts in a row at the Triple-A level," general manager Jim Hendry said. "He has been 95-97 (mph) every night, commanding his fastball really well. … He's certainly not far away."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball...

also in same article, Sullivan says ARam's thumb is still swollen...

The Cubs may have to consider putting Ramirez on the disabled list if he's not ready to go in a few days.

#6 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Cubster on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 7:09am.

''We're not talking about fill-in guys,'' Hendry said. ''We're talking about some power arms in Iowa. ... It's a really exciting group of young pitching.''

wittenmeyer article in sun times mentions Cashner, Jay Jackson and Casey Coleman.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/...

#10 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 8:37am.

Casey Coleman isn't a power arm...he's Carlos Silva if anything.

#11 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 9:00am.

But Casey Coleman drinks Power Aid, so he still fits the description.

I had a really good idea about trading Fountainout and Gorzellany or Silva for a second basemen last night - but I forgot who the player was.

#12 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Sweet Lou on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 9:05am.

Chase Utley?

#18 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 10:27am.

Oh, I remember now - I was thinking of Scott Sizemore. I was also having some beers...

#15 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Arizona Phil on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 9:08am.

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 8:37am.
Casey Coleman isn't a power arm...he's Carlos Silva if anything.

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ROB G: Agreed. I think Hendry was talking about Andrew Cashner and Jay Jackson.

#19 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 10:52am.

I'm sure, probably Diamond as well.

#7 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Mike Wellman on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 7:20am.

the drums are beating for cashner...he throws a matinee tomorrow while I'm @ work, but I will be on the road to Chicago early Friday morning if he needs a ride...can't wait to see the premiere of 'Ballhawks' Friday night...thought Wittenmeyer's piece about Zorro was right on, btw...

#20 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Ryno on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 12:14pm.

Yeah, totally forget about Samardzija... real nice Mike Wellman...

j/k

#21 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by navigator on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 12:44pm.

can't wait to see the premiere of 'Ballhawks' Friday night

I guess it's just me, but I find the idea of grown men muscling kids out of the way so they can hoard thousands of baseballs absofuckinglutely creepy.

#22 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 1:26pm.

I doubt they hoard them, but I do think they're losers.

#25 Re: hoarding balls

Submitted by navigator on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 2:12pm.

It's in the movie

Big collections

Yet, for those who've spent decades at baseball games without even one foul ball to show off, the Ballhawks' collections can spark envy. One named Moe shows the fruits of his work: his accumulation of more than 3,000 balls is tucked away in a plywood container.

in a plywood container, no doubt in his mom's basement...

#27 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 2:32pm.

I am thinking of the guys outside of Wrigley during the games - not the guys who show up early during batting practice of AA games.

Milton Bradley knows a good shrink that Moe can talk to.

#23 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by crunch on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 1:30pm.

a chunk do just toss them to kids.

you got jerks like the dude in COL who makes it a sport to jump in front of everyone in the park while roaming the OF bleacher area according to who's AB and likelihood of where HR's will land. he likes to keep a count of his personal conquest of catching balls to add to his own tally. he gets more than a few of them barging in front of others to add to his tally.

#26 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 2:30pm.

Don't they have ushers in Colorado?

#24 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Mike Wellman on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 2:03pm.

nobody ever tossed me a ball @ a game when i was a kid...what needs to happen @ ballgames is drunks stop slopping beer & cussing like longshoremen in front of kids...the ballhawk phenomenon intrigues me because wrigley is unique as a place where you can be @ the game without being inside the ballpark; i do not aspire to friendship w/ their leaders, i just like the fact that it's possible for balls to be hit clear OUT of the joint & i bet the film will be interesting...as for the omission of deep threat, that's on sully & gordie...[jk too]

#28 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by chuck on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 3:06pm.

Saw Diamond for six innings and Jackson for 3 and I don't recall seeing either hit 91 on the speed gun---although the gun in Des Moines is reputed to be a couple mph slow. Not knocking them -- just reporting.

#29 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 3:23pm.

I was going to shoot back with Jackson's K rate, but it's gone down considerably this year along with his walk rate, maybe he's trading velocity for control.

Diamond is K'ing nearly a guy an inning though.

K rates is what I myself usually refer to as power arms.

#37 Re: Dempster wins, Lee hits, and Cubs blank the Dodgers

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 05/26/2010 - 4:37pm.

Doug Jones must have thrown 100 MPH ; )

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