Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
First, the lineups...
Tabata, LaRoche, McCutchen, Jones, Milledge, Alvarez, Doumit, Cedeno, Karstens
vs.
Fukudome, Theriot, Lee, Ramirez, Colvin, Soriano, Hill, Castro, Lilly.
Now, the news...
- Z gets sent to the corner with his dunce cap and Grab-Ass to the disabled list with a sprained knee. Miles says Grab-Ass should be out 3-4 weeks. Jeff Stevens and James Russell get the call-ups with Tom Gorzelanny scheduled to start tomorrow.
- Jon Morosi of Fox Sports says that the Red Sox and Cubs discussed a deal for Mike Fontenot before the Red Sox grabbed Eric Patterson after he was DFA'd by the A's. Morosi also says that the Cubs are "halfway" to sell mode...half-assing it as always.
- The Smokies landed 9 on the Southern League All-Star team after taking the first half division title. They are:
OF Tony Campana
C Robinson Chirinos
C Steve Clevenger
1B Blake Lalli
OF Ty Wright
RHP Austin Bibens-Dirx
RHP David Cales
LHP Ryan Buchter
RHP Hung-Wen Chen
Andrew Cashner and Starlin Castro were also early contributors to their run.
- Bruce Levine put this piece of info out there in his chat today.
The reasons Hendry was enabled to sign people to long-term deals was Sam Zell's insistence that they build up the product so he can get a higher buyout from the Ricketts family. Hendry was on an airplane when the Soriano deal was done by other team executives. Jim has to take his share of blame, but let's not start with revisionist history.
As one of our readers pointed out, Zell hadn't even bought the team by that point (wasn't until April of 2007), so Levine seems to just be shoveling whatever B.S. Hendry is feeding him...or just made an honest mistake about the timeline of ownership.
Cubs try to solve the Pirates puzzle today...recommended for ages 4-5, but does require adult supervision.
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Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Tue, 06/29/2010 - 6:32pm Permalink
From Miles: "Lou said John Grabow will be out three weeks to a month with something more than a mild sprain of his left knee."
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Tue, 06/29/2010 - 6:33pm Permalink
heh, just modified the post to add that.
Miles also been pimping Soriano back to the leadoff spot. hope crunch doesn't read that.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Tue, 06/29/2010 - 6:43pm Permalink
soriano was already wasted...we can't get those years back.
good to see him back hitting 6th. go aram.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Tue, 06/29/2010 - 7:47pm Permalink
Didn't we make the playoffs in those years?
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Tue, 06/29/2010 - 11:31pm Permalink
The Cubs also scored a lot more runs per game.
Other than those 2 minor things, it kind of sucked.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 9:39am Permalink
Well, I can't get on board with that correlation = causation thing, but unless the idea is that batting someone else leadoff in the '07 and '08 playoff would have made us win, what's the point?
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 11:48am Permalink
"Well, I can't get on board with that correlation = causation thing"
me either.
when you got a guy who hits more or nearly more xbase hits than he has RBIs that says a lot more to me before we even get to the parts where he kept leading off while he had to windmill his legs just to run more than a jogging pace.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 12:41pm Permalink
Well, he has not hit lead off this year and that hasn't changed. He has 37 XBH and 38 RBI.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 1:00pm Permalink
he ॰ight as well have the 8th hitter and pitcher hitting in front of him, thway lee and aram are hitting.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 1:10pm Permalink
yeah, what he said.
the 2 guys in front of him are struggling to hit .200 combined all season...and the ob% isn't getting much better.
it's july...c'mon lou. move some guys. may is over.
today's lineup aram finally moves out of the 4 slot...where dlee takes his place...and aram is 5th...and soriano is 6th.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 3:08pm Permalink
"finally moves out of the 4 slot"
A-Ram's batted 5th almost as often this year as he's batted 4th.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 12:43pm Permalink
the point being, as has always been my point is that the Cubs did just fine when Soriano was hitting like he should be hitting in the leadoff spot because a)the Cubs don't have a much better option for the leadoff spot b)the increased number of PA's outweighs or at least equalizes the less than ideal lineup construction. Not like they're running much with Theriot or Fukudome up there.
now when Soriano was hitting like he did in 2009, he had no business up there or anywhere but 8th or on the bench.
Moving him down in the order has literally solved nothing and if anything made the Cubs worse, even if just coincidentally.
personally being up 1-0 in the 1st is kind of neat too...and just kind of wondering out loud, I'd be curious to know what the Cubs record was when he hit a leadoff HR? versus when he hits a HR in a non-leadoff spot since being moved?
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 1:10pm Permalink
"even if just coincidentally"
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 2:01pm Permalink
well empirically, it doesn't make any team better giving Theriot the 120 PA's that Soriano was getting.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Tue, 06/29/2010 - 10:17pm Permalink
In case you didn't see it in our Twitter feed...
At no time this year, over 86 2/3 IP, has Ted Lilly been on the mound with a lead of more than two runs.
For Lilly's sake, I hope he ends this season with a much better team than the one he's pitching for right now. He's earned it.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 9:39am Permalink
They said last night the Cubs have yet to score four runs in any of his starts.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Tue, 06/29/2010 - 11:10pm Permalink
And in other news, the Cubs won a nice game today, with the exception of another overall poor offensive performance. Nice to see Soriano generate some offense though, and great start by Lilly.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 6:09am Permalink
Thomas Diamond in a 0-0 game after 4 ip, Shark comes in bottom of 5th and this happened...
New Orleans Bottom 5th
Pitcher Change: Jeff Samardzija replaces Thomas Diamond, batting 9th.
Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Scott Cousins replaces Brian Lawrence. Scott Cousins walks.
Cameron Maybin strikes out swinging.
Danny Richar singles on a line drive to left fielder Bryan LaHair. Scott Cousins to 3rd. Danny Richar advances to 2nd, on throwing error by left fielder Bryan LaHair.
Jeff Samardzija intentionally walks Logan Morrison.
Hector Luna hits a grand slam (14) to left field. Scott Cousins scores. Danny Richar scores. Logan Morrison scores.
Donnie Murphy walks.
Coaching visit to mound.
Bryan Petersen walks. Donnie Murphy to 2nd.
On-field Delay.
Brad Davis called out on strikes.
Mark Saccomanno homers (1) on a fly ball to left field. Donnie Murphy scores. Bryan Petersen scores.
Scott Cousins grounds out to first baseman Micah Hoffpauir.
Game called after 5, rain. Final 7-0.
http://www.neworleans.com/sports/zephyrs/4254...
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 9:04am Permalink
Time to reinvent him as a catcher?
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 9:07am Permalink
... or football?
... for Green Bay?
Re:What to do with Smarja
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 10:19am Permalink
RESTRICTED LIST!
RESTRICTED LIST!
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 8:53am Permalink
joe migrane just on wscr.
said he was talking to lou at xmas party last year and lou was fed up wih z then. also said there were more issues wih z that were not made public in the past.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 9:01am Permalink
I am firmly convinced that Soriano should be traded as soon as possible while he still appears to have trade value and as long as the receiving team pays nearly all of his contract. He might be clobbering the ball now, but this is not a contract we want to be under for another 4 years.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 9:17am Permalink
I doubt any team would be willing to pay nearly all of $72 million for Soriano over the next 4 years.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 9:42am Permalink
Check again in two years, when the money is sorta managable. He's no Manny Ramirez but Ramirez went from untradeable to a guy people wanted to give up prospects for as his contract got closer to expiration.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 9:51am Permalink
Agreed,
He was put on waivers and not claimed twice.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 12:46pm Permalink
Ramirez was traded with 2 months left on his contract and the Red Sox paid all that was remaining. If the Cubs paid all of Soriano's salary they would probably get a few prospects back as well.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 6:51pm Permalink
The Red Sox also got Jason Bay on a below-market contract in that trade... they did essentially wind up paying $12 million and two C+ prospects for 2/5ths of a season for Bay, though.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 11:36am Permalink
But even if the Cubs find a taker for him, Soriano has a "no trade" and there is no indication he wants to leave.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 1:45pm Permalink
True, but there's not much to stay for, either.
Re: Game Preview: Pirates (26-50) vs. Cubs (33-43)
on Wed, 06/30/2010 - 2:41pm Permalink
The nightlife.
And the line of young latin boys provided by the Cubs farm system.
Joking.