The New Untouchables

We've done this joke before (well Real Neal did), but Bruce Miles has written the 2010 sequel.

--As we wrote last week, the only prospects the Cubs won’t move are Brett Jackson and Chris Archer. All the others would be on the table in trade talks. That includes Josh Vitters and Jay Jackson.

Is being deemed untouchable by the Cubs brass pretty much the kiss of death for your baseball career? I wouldn't take any fishing trips out on the lake if I were them.

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In Bruce's comments section he says that talks have cooled quite a bit on the Fukudome front. So nothing brewing there.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjou...

The Nats want Garza or Greinke as well, their untouchables are Desmond and J. Zimmerman.

Muskatrock: Cubs will add a patch in 2011 to honor Santo.

This sounds 3/44, sorry if it is.

Edit: Linky linky
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...

The patch should be an image of Dave Otto's head with a red circle and line over it.

No Zito

Take a look at the first sentence of the article (emphasis added):

there have now been 10 free agent position players who have received contracts of $100 million or more.

And yes... on that list, Beltran would be considered good.

"Cliff Lee is going to the Philadelphia Phillies, industry sources said Monday night. The Rangers were told Monday night that Lee is going to the Phillies, It is a done deal"

http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/1...

...so...when are the cubs trading for blanton? =p

Holy shit, that would be one retarded rotation.

halladay/c.lee/r.oswalt/c.hamels

i imagine they'll trade blanton away and put k.kendrick in the 5 slot...the 1-4 is crazy good enough...and the #4 should be the #3 guy...and he would be more than a few team's #1...crazy.

It's like the Cubs rotation, only the exact opposite. I'm not sure this city could handle Blanton and Silva, they are hungry fuckers.

5 years, $100 million, from what they said on radio.

I think their $80 million rotation and $60 million infield pretty much blows the roof off of the "We're spending what we can" owner theory. Between the Phillies' payroll and the Jayson Werth deal, the owners are going to have themselves some explaining to do when it comes to the next CBA.

5/115 says mlbtr here: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/agree-t... (sposedly from Hymen on the twitterses)

Well I overestimated their cost on the infield, but my quick estimate on their 25 man roster puts their payroll at $155.3 million.

Phillies vs Patriots in the Super World Bowl Series?

Along those lines, Indiana introducted Kevin Wilson as their new football coach last week. When asked about the Indiana v. Purdue rivalry, he said it was like when "the Yankees play the Lakers."

Got it. Thanks.

According to Crashburn Alley, the Phillies now have four of the top 12 MLB leaders in xFIP from 2010. I hope no NL team is dumb enough to take Joe Blanton off their hands.

Deal in place to send Blanton to Red Sox?

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/146735...

Looks like the Cubs picked a good year for Project .500

At least we were able to hold onto Koyie Hill. Imagine that Philly rotation if they could throw to Koyie?

Tampa wants 2 pitching prospects and a SS of the future for Garza

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/i...

I can't blame them, but part of me is still somewhat wary about Garza. I'm thinking they are probably asking for something like McNutt (Bruce Miles has been fairly clear that the only untouchables, as you note, are Archer and Jackson, and Cashner/Castro probably aren't going anywhere, so McNutt, who is most often thought of as our third best prospect, seems logical for a trade involving arguably the 2nd best pitcher that could be on the market), Carpenter or Jackson, and Lee. I'm not sure I like that ... but if I'm the Cubs, I'm not sure I say no to that.

Maybe the smart move is to start the season and see how good the team is?

If we look like a winner by late May. Then you can dangle these same prosects for a Garza,Guthrie,Grienke type of Guy. If we look like an also ran by late May. Then we can put the feelers out on Gorzo,Wells, Dempster and maybe a Marmol or Marshall?

Either way I'd like to see some level of commitment towards a direction.

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  • ayyyy...get a doyer dog, then.

    crunch 28 sec ago view
  • I'm going to be at this one! Am told a Dodger Dog is just a long hot dog. Disappointing.

    Charlie 2 min 52 sec ago view
  • If my math is correct, if the Cubs play .500 baseball for the rest of the season, they will finish with 99 wins. I only just confirmed through Baseball Reference that 97 wins last year (and 2008) were the most Cubs wins in my lifetime. I think that last year while Arrieta was pitching better than Cy F. Young I didn't really get or appreciate what he was doing. I'm trying to try to grasp in the moment just how fucking remarkable this season is.

    Jackstraw 55 min 13 sec ago view
  • This is awesome.

    https://twitter.com/JeffNuich/status/769227069788131329

    (CSN Chicago will air Vin Scully's call of the Sunday Cubs vs. Dodgers game...well for an inning at least)

     

    Rob G. 1 hour 54 min ago view
  • I figured this was going to be the most meaningless regular season in Cubs history...and it is pretty much on point, although I certainly didn't think we'd have close to a 14 game lead.

    But, one bad hop in game 1 in October could change absolutely everything we will remember about this year.

    blockhead25 2 hours 31 min ago view
  • oh he's great, there's like 10 great pitchers in the NL right now that can flat out dominate though. Picking #2 (behind Kershaw) doesn't matter much to me right now. Much like whom the Cubs will play in the playoffs won't matter much, they're gonna be good teams.

    Rob G. 2 hours 44 min ago view
  • The Cubs great pitching has a lot more to do with their great defense this year and plenty of good luck  (#1 in ERA, #4 in FIP behind Nats, Mets and Dodgers with a rather ridiculous .258 BABIP against Cubs' pitchers).

    Cubs pitchers do strike out more hitters than Giants pitchers and do walk more hitters than Giants pitchers so that's a few more balls in play. Cubs' pitchers actually have a higher groundball rate though. Crawford is just really good and baseball happens.

    Rob G. 2 hours 46 min ago view
  • i do what i want.

    i run with 12 gangs and we only commit hate crimes.

    i do what i want.

    crunch 3 hours 51 min ago view
  • I was asking how well Scherzer holds on runners.

    #baseballtalk

    BTW, your used underwear remark sounds rather specific. Please don't project. Thanks.

    Tito 4 hours 19 min ago view
  • nothing gets you going like someone talking about lester, eh?

    i hope you're on his payroll or he sends you used underwear or whatever you're into.

    btw, he holds runners like shit. he does things with runners i've never seen another pitcher do in my life...even going back before i was born as far as i can tell. would you like to discuss it? that sounds like it could be educational and fun. hit me up, bruh.

    crunch 4 hours 22 min ago view
  • last year they won 97...and came in 3rd in the division. crazy game on a year-to-year basis.

    this year it's likely no one else in the division will win 90, though it's technically possible at this point.

    no matter what, this is a special team, though...very well rounded...and should be mostly intact next year with a bonus schwarber. chapman may not be around, but whatever...rondon and crew are capable even if not on chapman's level.

    crunch 4 hours 23 min ago view
  • How well does he hold on runners?

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 6 hours 18 min ago view
  • It's August 26. Cubs with 14 game lead. And not for #1 draft pick.

    Words I never thought I would type together.

    Jackstraw 6 hours 33 min ago view
  • One more victory to ensure a winning season!

    billybucks 8 hours 50 min ago view
  • If I were a betting man

    Give me the Dodgers tonite, not just because of
    Monty on mound.

    Two nights in LA for the kids? Woooo

    /Prove me wrong

    jacos 8 hours 50 min ago view
  • When Scherzer is on his game, he might the the most dominant and intimidating pitcher. A couple of games he has pitched against the Cubs when he had his stuff, and his mound presence was just powerful.

    billybucks 8 hours 51 min ago view