Zambrano Hints at Retirement, Cubs Ready Gold Watch

Since this will be the talk of the weekend comments, let's recap tonight's festivities...

Carlos Zambrano started the game, he gave up five home runs in 4.1 IP and 8 ER, then decided he didn't want to wait for Q-Ball to take him out and just threw at Chipper Jones.  At least he had the deceny to not throw at his head. With the calmness of a serial killer, he walked off the mound, seemed to say a few words to someone on the bench and then proceeded to pack up his locker, go home and apparently told a few folks he's retiring.

There's even a silver lining in the Cubs 2011 cloud.

Because if he retires, he saves the Cubs $18M next year, not to mention the roughly $4.5M he's owed for the rest of this year.

Jim Hendry's comment from Tennessee where he was watching the Smokies play was, ""We will respect his wishes and honor them and move forward."

(Ominous drum hits)

I've always liked Z, the player and the personality. A few unfortunate antics aside, he played hard, was for the most part good at his job and was just frankly entertaining. It's a shame he never recaptured the numbers that helped him earn his contract, it's hard to imagine a player declining at age 26, but that seems to be the case.

But for the good of the Cubs (hopefully), Z and the organization just weren't getting along and that $22M that the Cubs may suddenly find under their pillow will hopefully be put to good use and get the Cubs back to relevancy a little quicker. (update: Levine says he's owed $24M).

I'm sure more is to come.


All he needs to do is learn two more pitches and gain a whole bunch of stamina. He can be the next Mark Prior or Kerry Wood!!!

@djlindholm: Sounds like #Cubs having good #mlbdraft but close to signing 1st and 2nd round pick?

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Will get Baez and Vogelbach done tonight.

Dow UP 218 points



Dow was only up 213

SI's Legal guy looks at Zambrano situation-

Kaplan on WGN Radio interviewed Zambrano today, it will air on Chicago Tribune Live on Comcast, I think is what he said. Anyway, he gave a teaser/summed up the interview on the radio, and it really pissed me off.

Z said he didn't throw at Chipper. The ball got away from him.

He said something 'in passing, in private' to someone on the team and they leaked it to the press. He didn't retire, didn't take his stuff from the stadium, and was on the way to the stadium on Saturday for the game when his agent called and said he had been suspended.

He said he has no problems with Quade or the Cubs.

He said he was sorry. And that he'll always be a Cub and wants to stay with the Cubs the rest of his career.


After hearing his line of bullshit, it just confirms that they should do everything they can to get rid of this lying, schizophrenic sack of shit.

Chicago Tribune Live is on from 5:30 to 6:30 tonight on CSN.

"get rid of this lying, schizophrenic sack of, etc."

Several people around here seem angrier to me than Zambrano.

People got angry recently when the Cubs started winning!

"Z said he didn't throw at Chipper. The ball got away from him"

That's a lie.

What he said was that it was two cutters because they were extending their arms and looking too comfortable. He also said if he wanted to hit him he would have thrown a fastball and hit him, because when he wants to hit someone he can. You don't throw cutters to hit someone.

I can't believe this but I believe him on that part because anytime he has tried to hit someone in the past he has done it.

"I can't believe this but I believe him on that part because anytime he has tried to hit someone in the past he has done it."

Nobody says "I tried to hit that guy but missed...because my aim sucks". Meaning: How can you know he's hit everyone he's aimed for? I don't care, really, just curious about the logic.

Have you watched Zambrano pitch? He is as easy to read as anyone. I have seen him throw at guys a number of times and he always hits them in the thigh. He is a grade a prick, but he hits guys the right way and you can pretty much tell every time he tries to. As far as the because my aim sucks. That is just silly. Zambrano even says in his interview that when he has tried he has succeeded. So he admits to throwing at people. If he threw at Chipper that is the least of his problems right now. So why not just say I threw at him because they were too comfortable.

No, I've never watched him pitch. You can do that?

Actually, I didn't intend to pick a fight and don't really care if he intended to or not, but your argument reads like a piece from the non sequitur handbook.

"He is as easy to read as anyone. I have seen him throw at guys a number of times and he always hits them in the thigh."

"I have seen him..a number of times...and he always". Moving on.

"As far as the because my aim sucks. That is just silly."

It's silly to presume that sometimes Z misses his spots? Really? He's not exactly Maddux. Missed hit-batters are called brushbacks or inside pitches. No one admits to missing a batter...that's hyperbole, I suppose someone might.

"Zambrano even says in his interview that when he has tried he has succeeded. So he admits to throwing at people."

No kidding, it doesn't surprise me in the least that he's thrown at people, nor that he'd admit it. It's like the old "No, I didn't'll know it when I fart"...I just admitted that I do fart sometimes, which proves that I didn't fart this time. I pull that one all the time.

That's irrelevant, what's relevant is that he is in extreme ass-covering mode and everyone in baseball thinks that throwing at Chipper was a classless move. Hitting a batter is accepted sometimes (no problem admitting past actions) but this time is perceived as wrong, THEN he pulled another unacceptable Z-move...THAT is why he's denying it.

If he threw at Chipper that is the least of his problems right now. So why not just say I threw at him because they were too comfortable.

Because he's a fucking idiot? A fucking idiot whom I love...but still.

Unfortunately, I love the guy, too. Does the "Joe" username carry some kind of recessive Z-love trait?

A very big part of me will miss him when he's gone. And, this time, I think he's gone for good. (sigh)

same...only i'm not a joe.

for as much as he's run his mouth, he's also quietly done his job. i don't have to work with the guy 200+ days a year, though. he's old enough he should be over some of his tantrums...and he's thrown a lot in the same place around the same people.

when he no longer was the 97mph throwing Z he learned to be effective throwing 88-90...and now he's managed to get his fastball in the 90-93 area pretty consistently. he obviously isn't just sitting around collecting a check even if he's not the same pitcher he was when he actually earned his kind of pay.

his fire just burns a bit too combustible.

13 quality starts out of 24 is not quite what I'd hope for, for paying $16 million.

Word. I don't think he's an asshole...just immature/feisty/whatever. Seems like a really good guy who does stupid shit because he cares too much.

One of my best memories is of him running balls lose to stretch a double into a triple in spring training...then falling over because his feet couldn't keep up with his upper-body. That dude just loves to play and loves to win.

I'm not defending him, he has to accept the consequences of his actions, but NOT caring is not one of his shortcomings.

"The owner of the Chicago Cubs says the Boise, Idaho, ballpark that serves as home to the organization's Class-A team is cramped, outdated and not up to the standards of minor league facilities across the nation."

See, there is consistency between our minor league program and the major league team. They are preparing Cub farm hands for the Wrigley experience.



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  • Meh. He only got one hit today. Maybe give him a rest?

    Old and Blue 29 min 23 sec ago view
  • 34-14...awww yeah.

    crunch 1 hour 25 min ago view
  • Good thing the Cubs have five left-handed batters in the lineup. Velasquez is just tearing thru the righties [edit - doesn't seem to faze Bryant!]

    Eric S 2 hours 46 min ago view
  • ben zobrist gets to ride up front tonight cause he's a good guy at sports.

    cubs with a 5 run lead and a lackey shutout through 3ip \m/

    crunch 3 hours 20 min ago view
  • HAGSAG: I have not seen Joe Nathan out on the field, but he is supposedly at the UAPC. 

    Arizona Phil 6 hours 16 min ago view
  • ERIC S: Best outing I've ever seen from Manny Rondon, and I've seen most of his outings since the Cubs got him from the Angels. 

    M. Rondon is competing with six others (Dylan Cease, Bryan Hudson, Jose Paulino, Pedro Silverio, Jesus Castillo, and Erling Moreno) for a starting slot at Eugene, and (as you can probably tell from the EXST box scores)  the competition has gotten fierce over the last couple of weeks, With the exception of Moreno, the Eugene SP candidates have upped their game lately, and M. Rondon's outing yesterday was especially impressive/dominating. 

    Arizona Phil 6 hours 19 min ago view
  • E-MAN: Pierce Johnsion was mixing a 92-94 MPH fastball with a plus-change-up AND curve, and he threw strike-after-strike-after-strike with all three of his pitches. I believe that was the best command and pitch-efficiency I've ever seen from Johnson, who often pitches from behind in the count and issues too many walks.  

    Of course now he has to avoid a recurrence of the lat strain (whch he has had previously in his career) as well as all of the other miscellaneous physical problems he's had over the last three years (hamstring, quad, back, etc).  

    Arizona Phil 6 hours 29 min ago view
  • PHIL: Any movement on P. Johnsons pitches? What was his "out" pitch? I know he was working on a 4th pitch, so wondering what he is looking like these days. Thanks.

    The E-Man 7 hours 12 min ago view
  • AZ Phil, has Nathan showed up in Mesa yet? Thanks.

    Hagsag 11 hours 57 min ago view
  • Eickhoff looks like a good young pitcher. Lets steal him!

    Hagsag 11 hours 58 min ago view
  • Manny Rondon faced 13 batters ... and got 10 to K. Not a bad day's work.

    Eric S 21 hours 39 min ago view
  • With several other Cubs hitters bailing out on curves today I think overall it wasn't being seen well. It for sure looked silly but a good breaking pitch coming at you and then breaking down isn't the easiest thing to see and has made many hitters look silly. Also Soler should have more walks this year but for quite a few called strikes that were actual balls and even the called strike he bailed on was borderline.

    johann 1 day 37 min ago view
  • it's not like we're talking about a guy who's never had issues with pitch selection and seeing the ball over here. we're talking about a guy who has some rather legendary swing-and-misses at breaking stuff who's been exploited low. going forward it's worth paying attention to seeing if he can be exploited inside, too. he seriously bailed out of the box on a called strike. sure it was a good curve, but he obviously didn't see that well at all.

    crunch 1 day 49 min ago view
  • It would seem like he is figuring it out now and it's really coming together. Really happy for him. Joe was really protecting him from the 3rd time through the order, but as you allude to, he is earning trust to go deeper.

    Wondering if has potential to become a #3 pitcher? His current stats certainly support it.

    The E-Man 1 day 58 min ago view
  • That doesn't count b/c CRUNCH didn't see it on his 60" HDTV 5 times in replay.

    I have seen many players "bail out" when the ball looked like it was gonna hit them.

    Especially with the advent of the splitter and pitchers that can really get the ball to dance. Marmol, Sutter, Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, Derek Lowe, Smoltz, Arrietta...

    These guys have made the best bail out only for the ball to come over the plate and be called a strike.

    No shame in that. The same way players whiff hard enough to cause them to drill a hole in the ground from spinning.

    The E-Man 1 day 1 hour ago view
  • a 60" TV with slow-motion replay and multiple looks on that replay helps...a lot...

    it's one thing to shy away like he did the 2nd time, it's another to bail out of the box on a called strike. that happened in the 1st one he pulled away from. he misjudged that one by a foot or so...

    crunch 1 day 1 hour ago view