Cubs Draw Blanks at Indian School Park

Six pitchers combined to throw a five-hit shutout with ten strikeouts, as the Giants blanked the Cubs 4-0 in AZ Instructional League action at Indian School Park Field #2 in Scottsdale this afternoon.



Lanky 6’5 20-year old RHP David Henrie (2011 NDFA – Trinidad State JC) made his pro debut for the Cubs today, getting the start and throwing one inning. He allowed one run on a walk and two singles, and struck out one (the first man he faced, on three pitches). The Cubs signed Henrie last month after watching him pitch for the Arvada Colts in the Rocky Mountain Baseball League (a collegiate summer "wood bat" league) and a subsequent work-out for Cubs scouts at Fitch Park on August 15th.


Also making his pro debut today for the Cubs was 16-year old Venezuelan switch-hitting catcher Mark Malave. One of the top-rated 16-year old International players available at the start of the International Signing Period, Malave received a reported $1.6M bonus (equivalent to “1st round money”) this past July. He is a big dude (6'3), a typical catcher, bottom-heavy and barrel-chested. He was a DH today, and went 0-3 with two strikeouts (both swinging) and a 1-3 tap-out. He looked over-matched at the plate, but you have to remember he is the same age as a HS junior in the U. S. (he won’t turn 17 until next year).


21-year old RHRP Tony Zych (Cubs 2011 4th round draft pick out of the U. of Louisville) pitched the 6th inning. He came out firing high-velocity gas and a sharp-breaking slider, and had an easy eight-pitch 1-2-3 inning with lots of swings & misses and two strikeouts. I wouldn't be surprised if Zych ends up on the same track in 2012 as Kevin Rhoderick and Aaron Kurcz this past season, starting the year at Daytona.


Here is today's abridged box score (Cubs players only):


LINEUP:
1. Zeke DeVoss, LF: 1-3 (1B, 1-3, P-1, PO)
2. Javier Baez, SS: 1-3 (F-8, K, 1B)
3. Rafael Lopez, DH #1: 0-3 (4-3, 4-3, 4-3)
4. Dan Vogelbach, 1B: 0-3 (K, K, 6-3)
5a. Reggie Golden, RF: 0-2 (K, L-4)
5b. Jeffrey Baez, RF: 0-1 (K)
6a. Dustin Geiger, 3B: 1-1 (1B, HBP, CS)
6b. Jeimer Candelario, 3B: 1-1 (1B)
7. Shawon Dunston, Jr, CF: 0-2 (F-7, 2-3 SH, L-5)
8. Mark Malave, DH #2: 0-3 (K, 1-3, K)
9. Carlos Penalver, 2B: 0-3 (6-3, K, F-9)
10. Neftali Rosario, DH-C: 0-2 (K, F-7)
11. Justin Marra, C-DH: 1-2 (K, 1B)


PITCHERS:
1. David Henrie: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R (1 ER), 1 BB, 1 K, 23 pitches (16 strikes), 0/2 GO/FO
2. Charles Thomas: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R (0 ER), 0 BB, 4 K, 36 pitches (23 strikes), 0/1 GO/FO
3. Felix Pena: 2.1 IP, 3 H, 2 R (2 ER), 0 BB, 3 K, 1 BALK, 36 pitches (23 strikes), 2/2 GO/FO
4. Tony Zych: 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 8 pitches (7 strikes), 0/1 GO/FO
5. Jose Rosario: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 23 pitches (16 strikes), 3/1 GO/FO


ERRORS: 3
1. 2B Carlos Penalver - E4 (errant throw at 1st base on single allowed batter-runner to advance to 2nd base)
2. RF Reggie Golden - E9 (dropped line drive allowing batter to reach base safely)
3. SS Javier Baez - E6 (fielding error allowed batter to reach base safely and unearned run to score)


ATTENDANCE: 37

WEATHER: Sunny & breezy with temperatures in the 90’s

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Comments

Mark Malave is 16-years-old and already 6'3" with a barrel chest and heavy legs? Have to think that dude is eventually going to be really big and really strong. Hopefully that translates to power, cause it's not very likely to translate to defense or speed.

and a 90+mph fastball you got josh hamilton, age 16. he was an amazing highschool talent.

says a lot, but ultimately says nothing

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball...

Isn't that what he does best besides stumping for the city of Chicago to help him rebuild Wrigley (as if that's a good idea)?

Really can't wait to see who he selects to replace Hendry. It will define my Cubs fan status for the foreseeable future.

Hey Arizona Phil, I know it's still a bit early but what is your impression of Jeimer Candelario? I have hopes that he'll be able to bypass Mesa next July a la Willson Contreras (though with more success at Boise than Contreras had).

Submitted by Raisin101 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 9:48pm.
Hey Arizona Phil, I know it's still a bit early but what is your impression of Jeimer Candelario? I have hopes that he'll be able to bypass Mesa next July a la Willson Contreras (though with more success at Boise than Contreras had).

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RAISIN: Jeimer Candelario has a sweet swing and can really drive the ball left-handed, but he is more of a punch hitter right-handed. So he is a lot like Marco Hernandez in that respect.

Candelario has a big frame (he is bigger than Dustin Geiger) and looks like he could develop some significant HR power (at least LH) as he matures (he is only 17). He already is pretty strong (like bull).

He shows some promise defensively and has a strong arm, but he has (at best) average speed, and so far he has been a "hacker" at Instructs. I cannot believe this is the same kid who racked up all those walks in the DSL.

Perhaps he was told when he arrived at Fitch Park that his future will be as a middle-of-the-order run producer and so he needs to be more aggressive and not take so many pitches, because he certainly hasn't shown much patience or strike zone judgment so far.

As for his future, I could see him getting to Boise in 2012. I think he is at the very least as good a 3B prospect as Wilson Contreras or Dustin Geiger.

One other thing about Candelario is that he is very talkative in the field (he speaks English very well and doesn't have much of an accent). He has a loud comment after almost every pitch. I'm waiting for him to start going "hey batter... hey batter... hey batter... SWING!"

The guy Candelario reminds me of is Steve Ontiveros, who played 3B for the Cubs in the 1970's.

"Perhaps he was told when he arrived at Fitch Park that his future will be as a middle-of-the-order run producer and so he needs to be more aggressive and not take so many pitches, because he certainly hasn't shown much patience or strike zone judgment so far."

Good thing we kept Oneri Fleita to oversee minor league development.

Well, into the offseason we go. It hasn't been a fun season but it has mostly been a fun time commiserating here with fellow Cubs fans.

AzPhil -

I might've asked you this before, but what's your take on Geiger's chances of sticking at 3rd? Physically, it's hard to imagine him sticking there, but curious for your thoughts. Also, any early takes on how Jeffrey Baez looks? He's sort of been overshadowed by Candelario and Penalver, along with Malave, but he is a very intriguing talent.

Submitted by toonsterwu on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 11:05pm.
AzPhil -

I might've asked you this before, but what's your take on Geiger's chances of sticking at 3rd? Physically, it's hard to imagine him sticking there, but curious for your thoughts. Also, any early takes on how Jeffrey Baez looks? He's sort of been overshadowed by Candelario and Penalver, along with Malave, but he is a very intriguing talent.

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TOONSTER: I think Dustin Geiger has a chance to stick at 3B, even though he looks a lot more comfortable at 1B. I think he will likely begin the 2012 season back at Peoria as the Chiefs starting 3B and #5 or #6 hitter, but there is nobody blocking him at Daytona, so he could get promoted quickly if he shows the Cubs that he has mastered Peoria.

While Zeke DeVoss, Shawon Dunston, Jr, and Trey Martin look like track guys, Jeffrey Baez is built like a football player (like a running back or an outside linebacker), and he isn't quite as fast as I thought he would be. He also looks more like a RF than a CF, and in fact he has played only RF so far at Instructs. He is VERY raw.

Castro finishes 6th in batting, 1st in hits, youngest ever to lead the league in hits. Tied for 9th in doubles, tied for 5th in triples.

Ramirez finished tied for 9th in hits, 7th in batting.

Pena finished 3rd in walks, 5th in K's.

Campana finished tied for 14th in SB's.

Garza finished 14th in ERA, 9th in K's

Dempster tied for 11th in K's, also 5th highest in BB's allowed and 12th highest in Hits allowed.

Marshall 3rd in Holds

Marmol 10th in Saves, 1st in blown saves.

Garza finished 6th in FIP, 8th in xFIP, 7th VORP in the NL

Had the 8th worst Left on Base% at 69.7%, though they say league average is usually around 70-72%.

Let me just add that Ryan Dempster had the highest ERA, 4.80, in the majors among pitchers with 200 innings or more.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/quali...

And if Ricketts is following the Boston model, Aram, Pena and Dempster will be let go for draft picks

Not if they consider Dempster our Wakefield.

Or Aram our Ortiz.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/703...

At 21 years, 188 days, Chicago Cubs shortstop Starlin Castro became the youngest player to lead the National League in hits, finishing the season with 207.

The Baseball Hall of Fame asked for Castro's jersey from Wednesday's game against the San Diego Padres. Castro reached base for the 40th straight game with a double in the eighth inning and extended his hitting streak to 10 games.

hawk harellson...aka, bizzaro santo...gets a 4 year extension with the wsox.

Harellson has already been White Sox GM, make him the manager. Then they would have another blow hard weasel to replace Ozzie.

look on the bright side boston...you let wakefield get all those starts he shouldn't have gotten, but he got that important 200th win.

lulz. i don't think i could take another offseason of BOS/NYY being in it, especially if it made it to the ALDS.

btw, after tonight is there any doubt left that baseball is fixed? :[

I'm just glad Boston's balls got cut off. It was a great end to the season except for the Cards winning and the Cubs being the Cubs. Wait, maybe it was a shitty season.

I don't think Wakefield's starts had much to do with 200 wins (in particular since he had two starts after reaching 200). Mostly it was because their starting rotation was a shambles.

Thanks, AZPhil. Quick question: Have you gotten to see Dillon Maples throw yet? If so, how has he looked (short-arm delivery notwithstanding)?

hey hrubes, you've seen videos of Maples delivery right? Does it sort of remind you of Struck's arm action? I remember watching clips of the two a few months back, and the first thought I had was that, it's sort of the same issue with Struck.

Submitted by Hrubes20 on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 9:23am.
Thanks, AZPhil. Quick question: Have you gotten to see Dillon Maples throw yet? If so, how has he looked (short-arm delivery notwithstanding)?

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HRUBES: I have not seen Dillon Maples throw in a game yet. Or Christopher Pieters.

BTW, LHP (ex-OF) Matt Spencer did throw a "sim" game on Field #2 the other day, so he might see some game action pretty soon.

Good to hear about Zylch. The big league team, suddenly, is in need of a closer.

What's best case fast tracking for him, September 2012?

That sounds like a best case. Still curious how that slider plays in full-season competition, as the slider I saw last year wasn't fooling anyone. I think most of the pre-draft reports suggested it was a below-average slider.

In terms of minor league arms that could be late inning types - Keep in mind that Aaron Kurcz is a possible late inning arm coming off a good season in Daytona and will likely be in Tennessee next year. Some Cubs fans believe Carpenter can turn it around and shore up his control enough that his stuff can dominate. There's also Dolis, who, if he can get consistent on the breaking ball, could be an option. Then, there's my sleeper late inning arm - Alberto Cabrera. He can still bring the heat, and he still has a solid to good slider (though my hunch is that the Cubs may keep him in the rotation for another year). Rhoderick's probably more a setup type of talent, but he's moved fast. Another sleeper is Marcus Hatley, who's got mid-90's heat and good slider, but still curious how it plays in the upper levels as he finally reached AA this year.

Also David Cales, who has a ridiculously good slider, could develop into a great late-inning pitcher.

I like Cales, but even before the injury (and for the life of me, can't remember what it was right now), I don't know if I viewed him as a late inning guy. More middle relief, borderline setup guy. It's not that you need a lot of juice on your fastball to go with the slider, but you need enough. Here's hoping he proves me wrong.

I thought the plan was to teach him 2 more pitches and make him a starter?

Submitted by The Real Neal on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:08am.
Good to hear about Zylch. The big league team, suddenly, is in need of a closer.

What's best case fast tracking for him, September 2012?

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REAL NEAL: I think if he stays healthy, Tony Zych probably has an MLB ETA of sometime in 2013.

Kevin Rhoderick and/or Aaron Kurcz could surface at Wrigley Field next year, though.

from John Manuel of BA, apparently a Team USA vs. Canada game is happening today.

Brett Jackson came up a bit lame on a steal of 3rd for Team USA. Might have jammed an ankle, looks like right leg. He's staying in

Quade on his job secuirty:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/703...

I'm as anxious as anybody to know who they are going to hire, but I don't do any speculation or listen to rumors and stuff. But no anxiety.

Funny how those two words are so close together, almost like one refers to being in a state of the other.

Then he goes on to put the people outside of the dugout in their place:

"Look, it's baseball. It's a long season," Quade said. "Everyone has it figured out. If you're a sports fan, you're a sports fan. But there is so much that goes into this."

I just love him more and more every day.

But there is so much that goes into this. There's numbers and stuff you wouldn't understand....

Once again I don't understand the fundamentals of baseball.

http://sbb.scout.com/2/1111856.html

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Comment From David
who would you rather have in your system, Matt Szczur or Oscar Taveras?
1:09

Frankie Piliere:
I think I'd take Taveras
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/final-u...

imagine the complaining by some on this board if the Cubs tried to keep a Rule 5 guy like Mike Martinez on the team during a 100-win season.

Did Martinez have pics of Charlie Manuel and a badger or something?
He's 29 (28 at season's start), .263/.315/.368 career in the minors.

Don't the Cubs have enough guys like this usually? Lmao.....

We do, but Hendry refused to pay them less than $750K. Jose Macias was my favorite.

Mine was Enrique Wilson....but sheesh...at least we traded for Macias..not a Rule 5 Pick

It's a honey badger actually.

granted this is a MLB PR tweet but...

18 MLB clubs increased vs. ’10 with 9 drawing more than 3 million & 13 topping 2.5 million.

and

The last 8 years make up the eight best-attended seasons in @MLB history.

remember this next time starts freaking out about poor attendance in April

Can we also remember it when people talk about Bud Selig looking the other way on steriods?

Can we also remember it when Bud Selig starts complaining about money during the next collective bargaining negotiations?

Not really, I bought 40 Astros tickets for $80 this year.

and clearly overpaid.

payroll rankings of playoff teams: 1, 3, 10, 11, 13, 16, 24, 29. so not in are 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

let's play guess the teams

Yanks (1)
Phillies (3)
Cardinals (10)
Tigers (11)
Brewers (13)
Rangers (16)
DBacks (24)
Rays (29)

I'll look up the answer in the next couple of hours.

Yanks (1)
Phillies (3)
Tigers (10)
Brewers(11)
Cardinals (13)
Rangers (16)
DBacks (24)
Rays (29)

I flipped the Brewers and Cardinals just to be more different. I'm really surprised the Phillies weren't #2.

according to USA Today and the BP page, Phils are #2. Maybe it's an Opening Day vs. full season thing or maybe Heyman's source sucks.

anyway, correct order seems to be, although their spots vary

Yanks, Phils, Cardinals, Tigers, Rangers, Brewers, DBacks, Rays

with Cards/Tigers possibly flipping

USA Today has Yanks (1), Phils (2), Tigers(10) just over Cards(11), Rangers(13), Brewers (17), DBacks (25), Rays (29) (could be Opening Day payrolls), BP has Yanks (1), Phils (2), Cards(10), Tigers(12), Rangers (13), Brewers (17), DBacks (25), Rays (29)

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/baseba...

both have Phils #2

http://awfulannouncing.com/2011-articles/sept...

Stockton and Brenly doing Cards/Phils series

Schlitter and Berg DFA'd today, Z back on 40-man

Also Thursday, Beane put to rest any speculation that he might depart for the Chicago Cubs' vacant GM job, saying, "I have a little trip planned but I will be here."

Read more: A's could hear soon on possible move to San Jose - Whittier Daily News http://www.whittierdailynews.com/sports/ci_19...

sounds like he is doing the courtesy of an interview though, doesn't it?

I love this idea

The two worst teams in the league should play a 163rd game. Winner gets first overall pick. At least we'd have something to watch.

http://twitter.com/SamMillerOCR/status/119523...

Say you are the Astros night and have got your ace ready to go. Do you pitch him against the Cards or save him for the top draft pick game?

Astros have an ace?

more interested in my amusement than the logistics of it, certainly more fun than a draft lottery that NBA does.

Shouldn't the loser get the 1st pick?

hehe.

with players, managers, and owners already complaining about how long the year is i wouldn't give this one too much room to go anywhere (not like it was on the table or something)...but yeah, that sounds fun as hell. hehe...especially with the dead time between end-of-season and playoffs. letting the 2 worst teams decide the order of the start of the draft...craptastic.

if...aka when...they eventually shorten the season to add more playoff teams that'll be fun. i don't think a lot of players would be too upset about it.

I don't think the owners are complaining about the length of the season

Wait until someone buys a calculator and they realize that fewer games = less revenue... I wonder who's gonna pay for that, the owners or the players?

heard...but if the owners had their way we'd be seeing 16 teams in the playoffs with a silly/unwatchable basketball/hockey setup.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/...

Marlins will more likely look at internal options for 3B than Ramirez.

Dempster most likely returning, although he gives himself a little leeway.

I'm fine with Demp returning, and I'm not against giving him an extra year if there's a way to lower the cost for next year.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/...

“He’s getting some base hits and doing some things, obviously,’’ manager Mike Quade said. “But his at-bats, his takes, his pitch counts that he’s running up — he’s doing a lot of good stuff. Even if it results in a line drive to right for an out. That’s been, to me, the most impressive thing about him.’’

Even as LaHair has cooled over the last week, he still has been in more deep counts than anyone on the roster this side of Carlos Pena.

In fact, his 4.28 pitches per plate appearance, entering Monday’s game, would have led the Cubs and ranked third in the National League if he had enough PAs to qualify (Pena was fifth at 4.10, the only Cub in the top 30 in the NL).

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/40474

Re: Friedman coming to Cubs
I doubt it. I think Friedman is in a great position there with a president and an owner he trusts and who have given him the latitude to do the job as he sees fit. I could see him getting a new deal from Tampa along the way, but I have a feeling the Cubs will have to go with someone who isn't currently a GM. I've heard Dan Evans as a rumored name there.

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you are named the cubs gm tomorrow - what is your move? Pujols, Fielder or complete rebuild?

I don't think those are mutually exclusive. If the owner tells me he wants one of those two 1b, I might try to get him to set some reasonable limits on the contracts, but both are great players and could be useful even if we're not competitive in 2012.
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Re: Fleita and Wilken
Asking the philosophy behind extending two top lieutenants would be my first question. It shouldn't be a dealbreaker if the candidate can otherwise bring in whoever he wants.

Is amazing how rampant cronieism is in baseball and how no one even thinks that it shouldn't be the case.

Maybe hiring the best person for the job will be the new Moneyball.

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