Vote for Cubs 2011 MVP and LVP

It's that time of year again, your chance to vote for the Cubs 2011 MVP and LVP.

2011 Cubs MVP

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Previous winners include:

  • 2010 - Carlos Marmol
  • 2009 - Derrek Lee
  • 2008 - Geovany Soto

WAR values come from Baseball Reference, ranking is for team of course, not the league.

 

Player Stats Notes
Castro 307/342/431 111 OPS+, 2.2 WAR 1st in BA, H, 2B, 3B, R + 2nd in SB, 4th in OBP
Garza 10-10, 3.20 ERA, 198 IP, 197 K, 118 ERA+, 2.5 WAR, 1st in ERA, W, K, WHIP + 2nd in IP for starters
Marshall 2.26 ERA, 5 SV, 34 HLDS, 173 ERA+, 2.5 WAR 1st in ERA, WHIP and HLDS
Ramirez 306/361/510 136 OPS+, 3.6 WAR
1st in RBI, SLG + 2nd in BA, H, R, HR, OBP
Ricketts   Fired Hendry, spent a lot on the draft

2011 Cubs LVP

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  • 2010 - Lou Piniella
  • 2009 - Alfonso Soriano

Player Stats Notes
Jim Hendry   left team with little rotation depth, and lots of dead weight on contracts.
Carlos Marmol 2-6, 4.01 ERA, 34 SV, 10 BSV, 98 ERA+, 0.9 WAR blew league leading 10 Saves
Mike Quade   acted very confused, consistently...
Alfonso Soriano 244/289/469 104 OPS+, 1.4 WAR if you care to concentrate on the value portion of LVP, Soriano gave little bang for the buck
Carlos Zambrano 9-7, 4.82 ERA, 145.2 IP, 81 ERA+, 1.4 WAR similar to Soriano, money paid grossly overstated to  performance given. May have kicked a puppy.

I'll leave it open through the end of the week. Comments always appreciated.

Comments

Garza lost 0.4 WAR for his hitting and Z gained 0.7 WAR for his hitting if that helps anything. The numbers above reflect that, but you may want to ignore it depending on your preferences.

Definitely kicked a puppy.

sportswriters like to smoke fat rocks in BOS, too...

"According to Jon Heyman of SI.com, Bobby Valentine is not a candidate for the Red Sox managerial opening."

...evidently the other hot "okay, really?" name popular in their press is joe torre.

Wasn't Earl Weaver available?

Really, people? Zambrano? He would've probably outproduced Soriano in WAR if management hadn't sent him home, and it's Hendry and Rickett's that screwed the pooch by locking themselves into a "he's not coming back" position.

(I also suspect Zambrano could've outproduced Soriano at the plate and in the field given the chance.)

I'm slightly more appalled by Quade over Hendry right now, who the fuck do people think hired Quade? It's not like year 4 of the Q-Ball era or anything.

i say bring Z back as our new starting 1B. think about it...

if I were to rank..

MVP
1. Castro
2. Garza
3. Ramirez
4. Marshall
5. Ricketts

LVP
1. Hendry
2. Z
3. Marmol
4. Soriano
5. Quade

AZ PHIL: What was the deal with Al Albequerque, again?

Did the Cubs trade him to the Rox in some phantom deal, or was he not designated for the 40-man ever?

I recall you discussing his arm on occasion, and had seen him on your various AFL lists, etc.

I am happy for his success this year with the Tigers, and just was curious what it took for his light to get switched on. Or, did we blow it on another prospect?

traded to Rockies for Jeff Baker, 6-yr minor league free agent that was then signed by Tigers.

http://www.thecubreporter.com/just-how-fast-w...

did have shoulder surgery in 2008

http://www.thecubreporter.com/2008/09/27/cubs...

After being traded to the Rockies for Jeff Baker in July 2009, Alberto Alburquerque was added to the Rockies 40-man roster post-2009, was outrighted in May 2010 (nobody claimed him off waivers - anybody could have), and then he became an MLB Rule 55 Six-Year Minor League FA post-2010 (again, available for anybody who wanted him) and he signed a minor league contract with the Tigers with an NRI to Spring Training.

Thanks, gents.

Alburquerque had good numbers at Daytona in 2009. He was on my radar because his high strikeouts and low hits-allowed (44/26 in 34.2 innings) fed into my Marmol index. If I remember correctly, I squawked a little on TCR when he was traded.

you also squawked when Sam Fuld and Tony Thomas were traded.

I don't know why but people are always accusing me of liking Sam Fuld. Fuld was the last thing in my thoughts when he went in the Garza deal. It was only when Fernando Perez washed out and Fukudome slid into the leadoff spot that I thought, and said out loud, that we always had Fuld for this situation and it was odd timing to have traded him now along with Guyer, someone else who could have led off.

Tony Thomas: you got me there. I did grow to like him after 2010--as did the Red Sox. Second basemen with speed and pop have two advantages over, say, Barney. But I've really gotten to like Coello and wouldn't trade him today for Thomas.

But that's a prospect for a prospect. I'd probably trade Garza today for Lee, Archer, Guyer and Chirinos, with or without Fuld. I'd certainly trade Baker for Alburquerque and Harden + Gaudin for Donaldson. With Donaldson's HR power (35 in last two seasons) and 38% caught-stealing pct., I think he would catch for the Cubs next season.

And of course I would trade Grabow and Gorzellany for Josh Harrison, who could play third next year.

So I generally favor squawking when they trade a nice prospect. Almost invariably, it's selling low.

Well, it was in my blog then, September 10, 2009:

Alberto Alburquerque, by the way, was in my top ten when he was traded to Colorado for Jeff Baker. I take exception when I hear it said that the Cubs got Baker for nothing.

no, you mention it in the thread that day.

Yeah, I see it now.

He has an extraneous "r" in his name--Alburquerque. I spelled it right in my search but wrong in my comment.

appears Castro will runaway with the MVP vote

Z and Q-Ball seem to be the LVP contenders

I liked Marmolaid for LVP, even more when I consider that he was the MVP last year.

Castro was the player most fun to watch, but since we're, in theory, supposed to be entertained by this mess, I guess that's a good criteria for him to win.

Since there was no realistic chance that the Cubs were going to win in 2011, the only person whose actions mattered was Hendry. Sadly he was unable to turn good performances by ARam, Pena and others into young players via a trades.

Thus, in my opinion, Hendry is the only choice for LVP.

Remember he was "handcuffed" by his being fired, to some degree, and also AramRam didn't seem too excited about waiving his NTC.

If Pena nets us a 2nd supplemental pick, that's probably not going to be much worse than what we could have gotten for him.

Not to defend Hendry...

Valid points, and as you note there is still time to correct the problem through draft pick compensation, but IMO the fact remains that Henry's failure to turn over the roster makes him the LVP.

Or the fact that it took Hendry several years of work to produce this shitty roster.

I don't think Hendry's problem was creating a shitty roster, the roster did go to multiple playoffs. Hendry's problem is that he did not react fast enough when the window was closing to really clean house.

A roster that is good in 2008 is not necessarily good in 2011, and he had plenty of time in 2009 and 2010 to realize that and try to do something about it. This is a franchise that ought to be in contention most of the time, particularly in the NL Central--not in contention half the time and pure shit some of the time.

Isn't that what I said?

Maybe, except you started by saying that you didn't think Hendry's problem was creating shitty roster, so that confused me. He created good rosters in 2007 and 2008 (and 2003 and 2004). But he created the shitty rosters in 2010 and 2011 as well.

Rob has the MVPs right, but my LVPs are Byrd and DeWitt. I just hate those ugly swings. DeWitt is supposed to have been drafted for his swing but I just don't see it. When he hits the ball hard, it's a golf shot headed for the foul pole.

Not to sound like one of those villainous scouts in Moneyball . . .

dewitt was supposed to be hitting 20-25+ HR a year by now...meh. i wouldn't mind keeping him around another year.

note Az Phil's post on the Baker for Alberquerque thread...#96:

As for Alberto Alburquerque, he has had arm problems (elbow and shoulder) for much of his carerer, but he's finlly healthy this season and was throwing in the mid-90's at Daytona.

I would compare him to Marcos Mateo (but Alburquerque has a better fastball), and as of right now, I would have rated Alburquerque as one of the Top 5 minor leaguers most-likely to get added to the Cubs 40-man roster post-2009 (along with Welington Castillo, Steve Clevenger, Tyler Colvin, and John Gaub).

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Cubs have gotten mileage out of Baker, wasn't he Quade's favorite cleanup hitter vs leftys? ((facepalm))

2011 split vs LHP (.314/.349/.463/.812)

Baker's a perfectly reasonable short side platoon player bench guy, I'd say that's more valuable than your 4th or 5th reliever.

or at least on par

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  • Manny Rondon faced 13 batters ... and got 10 to K. Not a bad day's work.

    Eric S 9 hours 40 min ago view
  • With several other Cubs hitters bailing out on curves today I think overall it wasn't being seen well. It for sure looked silly but a good breaking pitch coming at you and then breaking down isn't the easiest thing to see and has made many hitters look silly. Also Soler should have more walks this year but for quite a few called strikes that were actual balls and even the called strike he bailed on was borderline.

    johann 12 hours 38 min ago view
  • it's not like we're talking about a guy who's never had issues with pitch selection and seeing the ball over here. we're talking about a guy who has some rather legendary swing-and-misses at breaking stuff who's been exploited low. going forward it's worth paying attention to seeing if he can be exploited inside, too. he seriously bailed out of the box on a called strike. sure it was a good curve, but he obviously didn't see that well at all.

    crunch 12 hours 51 min ago view
  • It would seem like he is figuring it out now and it's really coming together. Really happy for him. Joe was really protecting him from the 3rd time through the order, but as you allude to, he is earning trust to go deeper.

    Wondering if has potential to become a #3 pitcher? His current stats certainly support it.

    The E-Man 12 hours 59 min ago view
  • That doesn't count b/c CRUNCH didn't see it on his 60" HDTV 5 times in replay.

    I have seen many players "bail out" when the ball looked like it was gonna hit them.

    Especially with the advent of the splitter and pitchers that can really get the ball to dance. Marmol, Sutter, Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, Derek Lowe, Smoltz, Arrietta...

    These guys have made the best bail out only for the ball to come over the plate and be called a strike.

    No shame in that. The same way players whiff hard enough to cause them to drill a hole in the ground from spinning.

    The E-Man 13 hours 5 min ago view
  • a 60" TV with slow-motion replay and multiple looks on that replay helps...a lot...

    it's one thing to shy away like he did the 2nd time, it's another to bail out of the box on a called strike. that happened in the 1st one he pulled away from. he misjudged that one by a foot or so...

    crunch 13 hours 23 min ago view
  • Good Hendricks sure is fun to watch. He was hitting all his corners today and the Phillies couldn't do anything with his changeup.

    johann 13 hours 59 min ago view
  • Bryant and I believe Zobrist both did that too.

    johann 14 hours 17 min ago view
  • Soler BB acumen and plate awareness is excellent. Not unusual for even the best players to react as if they were about to hit them, "even though they weren't that close" from your vantage point sitting on your deck, or wherever.

    The E-Man 14 hours 19 min ago view
  • soler vs inside breaking balls is scary.

    he's had 2 inside curve balls today where he reacted as if they were about to hit him even though they weren't that close...one he bailed out of the box on, it was a called strike.

    crunch 14 hours 37 min ago view
  • j.urias optioned back to AAA...guess we wont be seeing him in the LAD series.

    crunch 14 hours 44 min ago view
  • so is him actually getting 2 hits in a game (2 doubles!)...first time he's even been on base 2 times in a game since 9 games ago on his 3/4, 1bb day.

    im ready for him to at least look like a 2-slot hitter since he's gonna be slotted there no matter what he does.

    crunch 15 hours 40 min ago view
  • That Heyward move to avoid Bryant's ball hit at him was a thing of beauty too.

    johann 15 hours 57 min ago view
  • 9 pitches in and this game already rules.

    HR, double...bryant's turn (who came out to a Kris Kross song for some horrible, horrible reason).

    ...2 run inning...zoobrest hitting streak at 14.

    crunch 16 hours 2 min ago view
  • First time I saw Herrera was yesterday. He took like 100 pitches, fouled off a ton off Lester.

    Very nice young player and perfect leadoff guy.

    The E-Man 17 hours 12 min ago view
  • Obviously not Phil. But he mentioned this on Wednesday.

    "Dominican Summer League (DSL) Opening Day is Saturday June 4th, so probably about 8-10 pitchers and position players presently at EXST in Mesa will be sent to the Cubs Dominican Academy (probably sometime this week) and be assigned to either DSL Cubs #1 or DSL Cubs #2."

    In the comments here: http://www.thecubreporter.com/05242016/cub-power-d...

    QuietMan 17 hours 51 min ago view