The headline says it all, but let me blockquote for you.
Two baseball sources have confirmed that Theo Epstein is on the cusp of leaving his job as general manager of the Red Sox [team stats] to accept a position with the Chicago Cubs that is believed to include powers greater than he has in Boston, with an announcement expected to be made “within the next 24 to 48 hours.”
Now MLB generally doesn't like major announcements right during the playoffs, so I can foresee this stretching until the break between the LCS and World Series. Also, there's still a bit of a hangup.
The hangup in the negotiations has been twofold. One of them is that Red Sox ownership was still hoping to have Epstein remain with the team. The other is compensation: If Epstein is to leave Boston, said one source with knowledge of the negotiations, the Red Sox are going to want “something real.”
That compensation is going to be the real fun part, as I imagine quite a few fans are going to be upset over a quality prospect or player being traded for a "suit". On the other hand, not many "suits" out there with the Theo Epstein's resume. I presume Castro, Cashner and Brett Jackson are the untouchables, past that it's probably pretty fair game. Red Sox fans seem to be happy with the Cubs just taking on Lackey or Crawford's contract and while hardly ideal, neither would terribly upset me. You got to pay something to get something and Epstein is worth the sticker price.
In case that "hangup" becomes a roadblock, Wittenmyer tweets that the Cubs have talked to other GM candidates.
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Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
Taking on Lackey (maybe not straight up, but with some kind of cash adjustments or similarly bad contract going the other way--maybe Z?) makes the most sense to me. The Cubs need starting pitching anyway.
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
Or Soriano for Crawford. That would save Boston tons of cash in the long run, but they probably got the memo that Soriano is fucking terrible.
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Fucking terrible (Soriano) for an NL team. For an AL team, as a DH, just mediocre to bad.
But still better than Dunn.
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I was thinking along these same lines. Soriano can hide at DH some. Crawford can hold up in the field much better than Sori.
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I doubt it's going to be anything that favorable for the Cubs...more like Lackey for McNutt and Vitters.
That's assuming the Red Sox have actually soured on Lackey. They need starting pitching and there are signs that Lackey isn't totally shot.
I wouldn't be so quick to say Jackson and Cashner won't be gettable either.
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
he's got the most hittable 92-95mph fastball on the planet. it's awesome to watch something so nice be so ineffective...really awesome.
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
any idea what's changed sine his LA days? Fangraphs says his slider is good and all his other pitches are crap.
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Well, he threw his fastball less this year. But his fastball was also significantly less useful.
Re: Lackey
Fenway Park? AL East? innings, wife going through breast cancer and then divorcing wife?
~shrug~
Look at some possible compensation
http://www.overthemonster.com/2011/10/11/2483...
Gammons tweet
It could happen, but reports are far ahead of decisions
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
Other than Garza or Castro, they can have any prospect as far as I am concerned.
If they want us to take on Lackey's contract, that's probably fine too as long as we can send them Z. I don't know if Lackey lost anything stuff-wise this year, but going through a divorce could have just made him depressed and unfocused, and one would think that will eventually change. And we have so little starting pitching.
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So the question then becomes, what did Epstein say about his plan for the next couple of years, and what kind of request did Ricketts make, if any, about trying to field a contending team in the next year or two? I think this off-season's free agent class is mostly weak, and we have so many positions to fill or upgrade. If Pujols and Fielder leave the division, even if we don't sign either, we might be able to scrap together a team to contend, but that would probably also take a few trades, especially for a pitcher or two, and would cost more prospects.
I'm curious what the plan of action is going to be in the near term.
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SP, RF, 1st, 3rd...and a lot of not-so-ideal options to fill them.
would theo actually try to bring jd drew to the cubs? can drew still play RF? 1st or SP to splash loot? is there even going to be a splash or a slew of cheap options?
there's a lot of work to be done...
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
aren't we all?
I imagine if it happens, he'll be rather coy about the near term plan. They always have been in Boston.
if he's getting the President title, that means he'll have full authority on all decisions and likely hire a very powerful assistant GM or possibly a GM down the road.
at the very least, we know the Cubs will have a plan going forward and have a long term vision.
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
I think they already have a long term vision, just not the people in place to execute it.
Another report
http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseb...
bottom quotes a source saying Boston Herald story is "not accurate".
More tweets
from Buster...
Worth mentioning amid reports that BOS ownership wants to convince Theo to stay: Henry/Werner have had power to stop this. And they haven't.
from Heyman
if theo does go to cubs (boston herald reporting chicago deal could be "on the cusp''), he will not be hiring tito there
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
Damn it, I want the manager's job!
And Levine
Source tells Espn chi.com that their is not a deal in place with Theo Epstein yet. Cubs checking with MLB on compensation.
that sounds like there is a deal in place, doesn't it? just looking for approval and parameters...
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
Sounds like a deal with Theo, but not with the Red Sox.
ESPN ALSO REPORTING!
The Cubs have not won a World Series since 1908. Who knew?
Sean McAdam report
http://www.csnne.com/10/11/11/Epstein-close-t...
But the same baseball official said compensation was not the sticking point, while refusing to elaborate.
"It's a little more complicated than that," said the official of what was holding up finalization.
...there's also the matter of the dead bodies.
More tweets
Tim Brown of Yahoo
Hearing Red Sox owners are making play to keep Theo in town, but won't ask him to continue in job he doesn't want.
and Kapman
Okay, two impeccable sources tell me that Theo is wrestling with personal decision to leave his home in Boston. Has Red Sox in his heart.
Karl Ravech eloquently sums up Mike Quade
While all this with Epstein and cubs is going on, the current cubs manager Mike Quade out of the loop, unaware that any of this going on
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
Quade is somewhere thinking about whose ass he will slap first when he gets to Arizona in February. Cassie? Rammy? Woody? Wellsey? Marsh? Hilly? Bake? Garz? Cash?
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Good, and following that, I believe he may be thinking up useless nicknames for the 25-man team, the 40-man, and the entire minor leagues.
That should keep him busy!
Re: Boston Herald Reporting that Theo Will Join The Cubs
Quade can't slap any asses if he's not in Arizona in February.
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Quade can't ...
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Gone Fishin', he'll be slapping bass.
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