Game 80 Thread / Cubs @ White Sox (1 of 3)
|SP||Ryan Dempster||SP||José Contreras|
|9-2, 2.63, 85 K, 38 BB, 102.2 IP||6-6, 3.96, 56 K, 26 BB, 97.2 IP|
|DH||*Kosuke Fukudome||SS||Orlando Cabrera|
|LF||*Eric Patterson||C||*A.J. Pierzynski|
|1B||Derrek Lee||LF||Carlos Quentin|
|3B||Aramis Ramirez||RF||Jermaine Dye|
|RF||*Daryle Ward||DH||*Jim Thome|
|CF||*Jim Edmonds||3B||Joe Crede|
|C||Geovany Soto||1B||#Nick Swisher|
|2B||*Mike Fontenot||2B||Juan Uribe|
|SS||Ronny Cedeno||CF||*Dewayne Wise|
It's time for Round Two of the Cubs versus White Sox, a.k.a. Team Inferiority Complex.
The Cubs go with a lineup that's long on lefties and rich on suck. Fontenot? Cedeño?? Ward in the field??? Lou is clearly trying to win the game with one hand tied behind his back, thus completely demoralizing the hosts.
Dempster, who yielded just one run (though 10 hits) to beat the White Sox on Sunday night, gets the nod against Contreras, who the Cubs undressed last Saturday (9 ER, 10H allowed in 3.1 innings).
Every drunken lout who stumbles into the park today wearing a CUCK THE FUBS t-shirt will point out that Dempster hasn't won a game away from Wrigley Field. If you're at the game and can stand to get next to the drunk, point out that Dempster, while 0-2 on the road, has a 2.48 road ERA (5th best in the NL), has held road opponents to a measly .194 batting average, and the bullpen has cost him at least a couple victories. I bet that'll shut the lout right up!
Aramis Ramirez, who torched Sox pitching for 4 HR and 8 RBI last weekend, has also enjoyed great success against Contreras: 7-for-14, 4 HR, 10 RBI.
Though U.S. Cellular Field has been one of the homer-happiest parks in the game, when the Cubs swept the home team there last June, they did so by scores of 5-1 (WP: Zambrano), 2-1 (Wuertz), and 3-0 (Marshall).
Presumably, Cub pitchers had no pig-sized rats running through the bullpen to distract them.
Shit throw by Szczur...
Nice to have a ROB G. bustin' a move with the posts.
Tony Gold Glove!!!
To have Billy Hamilton break your shut-out with an HR is like Iceland winnng in soccer.
Hamilton - good grief. Does he have Lester's number or what!
and there it is...
time to sweat it out now.
Yeah - I was waiting for someone else to comment first so they could shoulder the blame should cubbery prevail.
he'd actually have to get through these last 2 innings in 13 or less pitches to pull off an actual Maddux (CG in less than 100 pitches)...and I probably jinxed the whole game with my comment so I'll shut up now.
An efficient one-hitter through seven innings - seems reasonable to me.
Quite the contrast from last night
It's really quite enjoyable watching Lester dissect the strike zone and a lineup like this...dare I say Maddux-like?
Eloy Jimenez and Jeimer Candelario named to Futures Game...
See past Cubs' participants here. Let me know if you see a mistake or any other info that may prove useful and I can add it.
Now pitching for the Cincinnati Reds:
Sorry if I made it sound like a Schwarber for Sale straight up deal was reasonable, obviously Cubs would need to give up more than that. You don't trade Sale unless you're rebuilding and if you're rebuilding you want more than one piece. Easily 3-4 pieces with Schwarber being the main one...but that type of an ace arm or All-star talent with a few years of control is the type of return the Cubs should look for if they move Schwarber. I don't think they'll move him until he's healthy though. TheJedi are pretty good at maximizing trade value.
I think you're very much overvaluing Schwarber if you think he can fetch Sale by himself. An unproven rookie with demonstrable offensive flaws he hasn't had the chance to show he can overcome and with no defensive upside will never fetch an ace of the quality of Sale in today's market where pitchers are fetching insane prices, especially with Sale's team friendly contract. You'd for sure need to throw in a pitching prospect in return at least.
best relievers in baseball tend to not be the best relievers for very long though...
also, when you start just trading away guys for marginal benefits, that window will shrink. The window is easily through 2021, just have to look how long Rizzo is signed for and how long they have rights to Bryant, Russell and so on down the line.
Can't say I'm too worried about the SP, they've done nothing but land guys on the cheap and on the expensive since they've arrived. TheJedi will figure that out.
Not sure I agree with this logic. The Cubs are one of the best teams in baseball, they have spent heavily on the team over the past couple of seasons, have more hitting prospects than they have places for them to play (and more on the way), a clear weakness in the bullpen, and have a 1.5 year window with Arrieta (to say nothing of the likely declines of Lester and Lackey).
Unless you think (maybe even if you do think) Schwarber is the next coming of Babe Ruth, I would certainly consider trading him if it brought back a couple of the best relief pitchers in baseball.