Gameday Open Thread / Split Squad Action

Alfonso Soriano returns to the lineup today with Jon Lieber taking the mound against the Snakes at HoHoKam Park. Sean Marshall will face Rich Harden against the A's in Phoenix for the other game.

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i would say f the orioles but i would be all for the cedeno for davis trade
with sanfrancisco/ safe are assets for july trade deadline.

wgn has the game against arizona on so we will get jon lieber on tv
any idea who else will be pitching in this game.

Not available on the web but in today's paper:

-ISFA will make offer next week for Wrigley Field. Kenny hopes to have "framework for a transaction" by opening day.

-This would allow major renovation paid by trib, naming rights owner, new team owner and city. Which means Cub would be homeless for part of a season or whole season. They would play at US Cellular, although Sox not notified tough shit, ISFA owns that park too.

-Advantage of ISFA owning Cubs, more night games. Closer to league average of 54.

-Kenney does not expect Cubs sale to stretch into 2009, but the CUbs books have not been provided to approved potential buyers yet.

-Movie production of Cubs season will be filmed throughout the year. "We Believe;Chicago and its Cubs" should be ready for Sundance next year.

-Whatever the new name of stadium or renovation, Kenney said "we are not going to touch the existing scoreboard".\

jacos- But in Trib he mentioned they could change name on marquee in front due "to first ammendment"

-Two concerts this summer at Wrigley

And for Carlos-
Cubs plan on putting games on radio in Spanish though no deal through radio station has been made.

This from Gordon Wiitenmyer in todays' Sun times.

"-Advantage of ISFA owning Cubs, more night games. Closer to league average of 54."

I was under the impression that the Cubs have always tried to play more night games but the city won't allow it.

Chad:
"I was under the impression that the Cubs have always tried to play more night games but the city won't allow it."

That is true Chad, it has nothing to do with who owns the stadium, it has to do with Wrigeyville. I still haven't heard one good reason for the city to own Wrigley except it guarantees the team to stay there for 30 years since they are going to stronghold new owner into a 30 year lease.

That 'First Amendment' crap is nonsense. And apologies to all, but it's so horribly misused and misunderstood that it bugs me.

Cliff Notes: It's a FEDERAL issue. I don't think washington dc is going after the wrigley marquee (marquis?) - so the 1st amend. has nothing to do with anything.

It's your sign. You CAN do whatever you want with it, but the real question is SHOULD you?

Gibbon:
"It's your sign. You CAN do whatever you want with it, but the real question is SHOULD you?"

It isn't totally theirs. I think it is one of the things that is under historical status and thus needs approval from someone else, not sure if it is the City/State/Federal governments, to make changes.

The more Crane Kenney talks and acts like the new face of the Cubs, the more reason I see why the Trib was doing so bad.

you cant replace a doorknob at wrigley without the proper paperwork.

every tax advantage they take requires the proper paperwork. they're the ones that wanted the landmark status.

That's exactly my point.

The advantages for landmark status demand cooperating with state agencies and restrictions inherent in the designation, but to claim some overarching federal mandate like 'free speech' is being impeded is the height of absurdity.

And I wasn't all that clear in my comments earlier - what I mean is, yes, they own the marquee and can do with it what they want (not entirely true I know as there are governmental issues) but should they (do they really want to set into motion the governmental dominoes that have to fall to alter signage?)

Kenney should just shut up and leave the 1st amendment interpretation to the lawyers. Oh wait. Aren't they the ones who misused it in the first place?

This was asked before, not sure if there was an answer or consensus -- I'm watching the game on WGN and Soto does look heavier than he did last September. What do people think?

Soto definetly looks more ovoid then he did when he got called up last year.

tye dye wright...good ol' number 95...gets to make sportscenter tonite with a stupid, but nice catch.

oops...wrong reply area...

to bring it back on subject it looks like s.gallagher's dropped the amount of weight soto's put on. =p

loober delivering with the 82-86mph HEAT!!!

great location for him early...impressive even if the velocity is (hopefully) still working its way up.

added bonus...he was throwing his sinker. he had almost abandoned it the past couple years. his sinker was at 82-84mph, though...

loober works 4 today...a little wild up in the inning, but got it done.

couldnt ARZ field some legit regulars today? wtf...

judging loober by things you should judge him by this early in spring...his slider and location...both are there and pretty advanced for this time of year. his velocity is working the low-mid 80s, though. as mentioned above he's breaking out his splitfinger...the first batter of the game got almost nothing but splitters.

Did Owings bat 7th?!?

Drew and Reynolds are regulars. Guess that's what you get for a road split squad game.

The Cubs only started one regular (and their worst at that) at their road game.

Looks like Roquet bailed out Marshall... get used to that if you want to be in the Cubs pen.

samninja got lit up a bit in the boxscore...

Man, I hope he continues his success through the Spring. He had a real good performance again today 3.0 IP, 2 hits, 2 K, 0 BB, 0 ER. I hope Lou doesn't just give it to a "veteran" and push Marshall to the pen or AAA like he did last year. Marshall deserves a legit shot.

Early in the game Len or Bob mentioned Dempster was the #3 starter followed by Rich Hill at #4 with Lieber, Marshall, Marquis in a battle for the 5th.

Dont ask me how they came to that conclusion.

Bob also seems to be pretty sure howry isn't going to move out of his setup role. He did mention that howry is still in the competition for the mix, though.

fuku with his first SB attempt...late jump, not sprinting fast...nailed by a step and 1/2 on a low (but clean) throw.

I though the way Lee went after that pitch, and the bad jump indicated it was a hit and run.

true.

Pie shows off the arm to hold the runner...Eyre stinking it up.

I was a little disapointed to see Lansford not make the play on that first hit of the inning. The way everyone's talking up his D, I'm looking for Brooks Robinson.

Article on Fantasy breakout candidates, lenght blurb on Pie:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/columns/s...

nice swing on that change Cedeno...ugh.

Beautiful double play he turned though.... Just wish he would get hot at the plate to get a shot at unseating Theriot.

TV guys said Ward with a homer in the A's game and Murton with the go-ahead double.

Pie takes a crappy swing on a 2-0 count and grounds out...Ascaino coming in.

only watched the last 2 innings myself, but Fontenot showed some nice defense on those highlights.

I saw part of the Ari game, but with no sound (stupid BW's) ... anyhoo, who's wearing #80, was that Vitters?!?!

I posted this a couple of days ago but it makes more sense in this thread.

There's an interesting short piece on the state buying Wrigley Field in The Reader that came out today. Ben Joravsky, who has written a lot on Chicago's TIF (tax increment financing) says-

"Under the plan the state would issue bonds to pay for rebuilding Wrigley... Here's the tricky part: sales taxes going to the city would be frozen and any increase in revenues spurred by the renovation (including extra seats) would go to the state to repay the loans. 'The city would have to give up their share of the sales tax increment for the next 30 years,' Jim Thompson said."

A Joravsky correctly points out later in the article - money spent to refurbish Wrigley Field is money that can't be spent elsewhere. It's tied up in the park and will be slowly paid back from now until the year 2038. The needs of things like schools and parks will have to be payed for with money found elsewhere - probably through service cuts and tax hikes.

It's the same as so many companies these days who are supposedly free market concerns - they socialize their risk by using government dough. Nice work if you can get it...

jim edmonds seems to be hurt again out for the rest of march

bynum's gonna be out 4-6+ weeks following knee surgery...he was pretty much a sure thing to either start at SS or be worked off the bench for the O's.

According to Sporting News Radio (Overnight for the Score) a Crisp for Marquis and Fuld deal is close. Seems too good to be true.

No way, seriously? Were there any cash considerations mentioned?

alehandra tejeda is not bad either

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  • Manny Rondon faced 13 batters ... and got 10 to K. Not a bad day's work.

    Eric S 8 hours 54 min ago view
  • With several other Cubs hitters bailing out on curves today I think overall it wasn't being seen well. It for sure looked silly but a good breaking pitch coming at you and then breaking down isn't the easiest thing to see and has made many hitters look silly. Also Soler should have more walks this year but for quite a few called strikes that were actual balls and even the called strike he bailed on was borderline.

    johann 11 hours 52 min ago view
  • it's not like we're talking about a guy who's never had issues with pitch selection and seeing the ball over here. we're talking about a guy who has some rather legendary swing-and-misses at breaking stuff who's been exploited low. going forward it's worth paying attention to seeing if he can be exploited inside, too. he seriously bailed out of the box on a called strike. sure it was a good curve, but he obviously didn't see that well at all.

    crunch 12 hours 4 min ago view
  • It would seem like he is figuring it out now and it's really coming together. Really happy for him. Joe was really protecting him from the 3rd time through the order, but as you allude to, he is earning trust to go deeper.

    Wondering if has potential to become a #3 pitcher? His current stats certainly support it.

    The E-Man 12 hours 13 min ago view
  • That doesn't count b/c CRUNCH didn't see it on his 60" HDTV 5 times in replay.

    I have seen many players "bail out" when the ball looked like it was gonna hit them.

    Especially with the advent of the splitter and pitchers that can really get the ball to dance. Marmol, Sutter, Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, Derek Lowe, Smoltz, Arrietta...

    These guys have made the best bail out only for the ball to come over the plate and be called a strike.

    No shame in that. The same way players whiff hard enough to cause them to drill a hole in the ground from spinning.

    The E-Man 12 hours 18 min ago view
  • a 60" TV with slow-motion replay and multiple looks on that replay helps...a lot...

    it's one thing to shy away like he did the 2nd time, it's another to bail out of the box on a called strike. that happened in the 1st one he pulled away from. he misjudged that one by a foot or so...

    crunch 12 hours 37 min ago view
  • Good Hendricks sure is fun to watch. He was hitting all his corners today and the Phillies couldn't do anything with his changeup.

    johann 13 hours 13 min ago view
  • Bryant and I believe Zobrist both did that too.

    johann 13 hours 31 min ago view
  • Soler BB acumen and plate awareness is excellent. Not unusual for even the best players to react as if they were about to hit them, "even though they weren't that close" from your vantage point sitting on your deck, or wherever.

    The E-Man 13 hours 32 min ago view
  • soler vs inside breaking balls is scary.

    he's had 2 inside curve balls today where he reacted as if they were about to hit him even though they weren't that close...one he bailed out of the box on, it was a called strike.

    crunch 13 hours 50 min ago view
  • j.urias optioned back to AAA...guess we wont be seeing him in the LAD series.

    crunch 13 hours 58 min ago view
  • so is him actually getting 2 hits in a game (2 doubles!)...first time he's even been on base 2 times in a game since 9 games ago on his 3/4, 1bb day.

    im ready for him to at least look like a 2-slot hitter since he's gonna be slotted there no matter what he does.

    crunch 14 hours 53 min ago view
  • That Heyward move to avoid Bryant's ball hit at him was a thing of beauty too.

    johann 15 hours 11 min ago view
  • 9 pitches in and this game already rules.

    HR, double...bryant's turn (who came out to a Kris Kross song for some horrible, horrible reason).

    ...2 run inning...zoobrest hitting streak at 14.

    crunch 15 hours 16 min ago view
  • First time I saw Herrera was yesterday. He took like 100 pitches, fouled off a ton off Lester.

    Very nice young player and perfect leadoff guy.

    The E-Man 16 hours 25 min ago view
  • Obviously not Phil. But he mentioned this on Wednesday.

    "Dominican Summer League (DSL) Opening Day is Saturday June 4th, so probably about 8-10 pitchers and position players presently at EXST in Mesa will be sent to the Cubs Dominican Academy (probably sometime this week) and be assigned to either DSL Cubs #1 or DSL Cubs #2."

    In the comments here: http://www.thecubreporter.com/05242016/cub-power-d...

    QuietMan 17 hours 4 min ago view