Gameday Open Thread / Split Squad Action

Alfonso Soriano returns to the lineup today with Jon Lieber taking the mound against the Snakes at HoHoKam Park. Sean Marshall will face Rich Harden against the A's in Phoenix for the other game.

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i would say f the orioles but i would be all for the cedeno for davis trade
with sanfrancisco/ safe are assets for july trade deadline.

wgn has the game against arizona on so we will get jon lieber on tv
any idea who else will be pitching in this game.

Not available on the web but in today's paper:

-ISFA will make offer next week for Wrigley Field. Kenny hopes to have "framework for a transaction" by opening day.

-This would allow major renovation paid by trib, naming rights owner, new team owner and city. Which means Cub would be homeless for part of a season or whole season. They would play at US Cellular, although Sox not notified tough shit, ISFA owns that park too.

-Advantage of ISFA owning Cubs, more night games. Closer to league average of 54.

-Kenney does not expect Cubs sale to stretch into 2009, but the CUbs books have not been provided to approved potential buyers yet.

-Movie production of Cubs season will be filmed throughout the year. "We Believe;Chicago and its Cubs" should be ready for Sundance next year.

-Whatever the new name of stadium or renovation, Kenney said "we are not going to touch the existing scoreboard".\

jacos- But in Trib he mentioned they could change name on marquee in front due "to first ammendment"

-Two concerts this summer at Wrigley

And for Carlos-
Cubs plan on putting games on radio in Spanish though no deal through radio station has been made.

This from Gordon Wiitenmyer in todays' Sun times.

"-Advantage of ISFA owning Cubs, more night games. Closer to league average of 54."

I was under the impression that the Cubs have always tried to play more night games but the city won't allow it.

Chad:
"I was under the impression that the Cubs have always tried to play more night games but the city won't allow it."

That is true Chad, it has nothing to do with who owns the stadium, it has to do with Wrigeyville. I still haven't heard one good reason for the city to own Wrigley except it guarantees the team to stay there for 30 years since they are going to stronghold new owner into a 30 year lease.

That 'First Amendment' crap is nonsense. And apologies to all, but it's so horribly misused and misunderstood that it bugs me.

Cliff Notes: It's a FEDERAL issue. I don't think washington dc is going after the wrigley marquee (marquis?) - so the 1st amend. has nothing to do with anything.

It's your sign. You CAN do whatever you want with it, but the real question is SHOULD you?

Gibbon:
"It's your sign. You CAN do whatever you want with it, but the real question is SHOULD you?"

It isn't totally theirs. I think it is one of the things that is under historical status and thus needs approval from someone else, not sure if it is the City/State/Federal governments, to make changes.

The more Crane Kenney talks and acts like the new face of the Cubs, the more reason I see why the Trib was doing so bad.

you cant replace a doorknob at wrigley without the proper paperwork.

every tax advantage they take requires the proper paperwork. they're the ones that wanted the landmark status.

That's exactly my point.

The advantages for landmark status demand cooperating with state agencies and restrictions inherent in the designation, but to claim some overarching federal mandate like 'free speech' is being impeded is the height of absurdity.

And I wasn't all that clear in my comments earlier - what I mean is, yes, they own the marquee and can do with it what they want (not entirely true I know as there are governmental issues) but should they (do they really want to set into motion the governmental dominoes that have to fall to alter signage?)

Kenney should just shut up and leave the 1st amendment interpretation to the lawyers. Oh wait. Aren't they the ones who misused it in the first place?

This was asked before, not sure if there was an answer or consensus -- I'm watching the game on WGN and Soto does look heavier than he did last September. What do people think?

Soto definetly looks more ovoid then he did when he got called up last year.

tye dye wright...good ol' number 95...gets to make sportscenter tonite with a stupid, but nice catch.

oops...wrong reply area...

to bring it back on subject it looks like s.gallagher's dropped the amount of weight soto's put on. =p

loober delivering with the 82-86mph HEAT!!!

great location for him early...impressive even if the velocity is (hopefully) still working its way up.

added bonus...he was throwing his sinker. he had almost abandoned it the past couple years. his sinker was at 82-84mph, though...

loober works 4 today...a little wild up in the inning, but got it done.

couldnt ARZ field some legit regulars today? wtf...

judging loober by things you should judge him by this early in spring...his slider and location...both are there and pretty advanced for this time of year. his velocity is working the low-mid 80s, though. as mentioned above he's breaking out his splitfinger...the first batter of the game got almost nothing but splitters.

Did Owings bat 7th?!?

Drew and Reynolds are regulars. Guess that's what you get for a road split squad game.

The Cubs only started one regular (and their worst at that) at their road game.

Looks like Roquet bailed out Marshall... get used to that if you want to be in the Cubs pen.

samninja got lit up a bit in the boxscore...

Man, I hope he continues his success through the Spring. He had a real good performance again today 3.0 IP, 2 hits, 2 K, 0 BB, 0 ER. I hope Lou doesn't just give it to a "veteran" and push Marshall to the pen or AAA like he did last year. Marshall deserves a legit shot.

Early in the game Len or Bob mentioned Dempster was the #3 starter followed by Rich Hill at #4 with Lieber, Marshall, Marquis in a battle for the 5th.

Dont ask me how they came to that conclusion.

Bob also seems to be pretty sure howry isn't going to move out of his setup role. He did mention that howry is still in the competition for the mix, though.

fuku with his first SB attempt...late jump, not sprinting fast...nailed by a step and 1/2 on a low (but clean) throw.

I though the way Lee went after that pitch, and the bad jump indicated it was a hit and run.

true.

Pie shows off the arm to hold the runner...Eyre stinking it up.

I was a little disapointed to see Lansford not make the play on that first hit of the inning. The way everyone's talking up his D, I'm looking for Brooks Robinson.

Article on Fantasy breakout candidates, lenght blurb on Pie:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/columns/s...

nice swing on that change Cedeno...ugh.

Beautiful double play he turned though.... Just wish he would get hot at the plate to get a shot at unseating Theriot.

TV guys said Ward with a homer in the A's game and Murton with the go-ahead double.

Pie takes a crappy swing on a 2-0 count and grounds out...Ascaino coming in.

only watched the last 2 innings myself, but Fontenot showed some nice defense on those highlights.

I saw part of the Ari game, but with no sound (stupid BW's) ... anyhoo, who's wearing #80, was that Vitters?!?!

I posted this a couple of days ago but it makes more sense in this thread.

There's an interesting short piece on the state buying Wrigley Field in The Reader that came out today. Ben Joravsky, who has written a lot on Chicago's TIF (tax increment financing) says-

"Under the plan the state would issue bonds to pay for rebuilding Wrigley... Here's the tricky part: sales taxes going to the city would be frozen and any increase in revenues spurred by the renovation (including extra seats) would go to the state to repay the loans. 'The city would have to give up their share of the sales tax increment for the next 30 years,' Jim Thompson said."

A Joravsky correctly points out later in the article - money spent to refurbish Wrigley Field is money that can't be spent elsewhere. It's tied up in the park and will be slowly paid back from now until the year 2038. The needs of things like schools and parks will have to be payed for with money found elsewhere - probably through service cuts and tax hikes.

It's the same as so many companies these days who are supposedly free market concerns - they socialize their risk by using government dough. Nice work if you can get it...

jim edmonds seems to be hurt again out for the rest of march

bynum's gonna be out 4-6+ weeks following knee surgery...he was pretty much a sure thing to either start at SS or be worked off the bench for the O's.

According to Sporting News Radio (Overnight for the Score) a Crisp for Marquis and Fuld deal is close. Seems too good to be true.

No way, seriously? Were there any cash considerations mentioned?

alehandra tejeda is not bad either

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  • If it was 2006 Hendry would be there w a Bible and a contract
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/77...

    jacos 2 hours 23 min ago view
  • he subscribes to my twitter, he's beyond TCR. #yolo #swag

    crunch 3 hours 1 min ago view
  • Whoops. Maddon must have been reading TCR (for his daily crunch) and got confused.

    CTSteve 3 hours 3 min ago view
  • kuhl is a righty, not a lefty.

    i think maddon might think kuhl is a lefty, too. i wonder what the reasoning is for baez leading off vs a rightie.

    crunch 3 hours 44 min ago view
  • "trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo."

    that's from my 1st post. there's no suck involved in that. maybe with a few less posts about bullshit that point would have jumped out more.

    crunch 4 hours 32 min ago view
  • crunch - you do know that, taking defense out of the equation, Trout has led the AL in wRC+ each of those years, right?

    And, if you want to complain about position adjustment (which would be serious #crunchsplaining), he's been in the top 3 in the AL in WC (not park/league/position adjusted). And the only players ahead of him (if there were any players ahead of him) in any of those years have been DHs or 1B that play lousy defense.

    But sure - Trout sucks (or at least isn't as good as WAR says). Because it factors in defense and position.

    big_lowitzki 5 hours 36 min ago view
  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 6 hours 22 min ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 8 hours 9 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 8 hours 9 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 8 hours 16 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 8 hours 52 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 8 hours 53 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 8 hours 56 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 8 hours 59 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 8 hours 59 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 9 hours 4 min ago view