Carlos Zambrano - Opening Day Starter and Could Still Pitch in the WBC

The headline pretty much says it all as Lou made it official today on the Cubs' Opening Day starter. If Lou skips the 5th starter as he mentioned, the rotation for the month of April could look like this.

4/6 @ Houston: Zambrano

4/7 @ Houston: Dempster

4/8 @ Houston: Lilly

4/9 Off-day

4/10 @ Milwaukee: Harden

4/11 @ Milwaukee: Zambrano

4/12 @ Milwaukee: Dempster

4/13 vs. Colorado: Lilly

4/14 Off-day

4/15 vs. Colorado: Harden

4/16 vs. St. Louis: Zambrano

4/17 vs. St. Louis: Dempster

4/18 vs. St. Louis: Lilly

4/19 vs. St. Louis: Marshall or Heilman

4/20 Off-day

4/21 vs. Cincinnati: Zambrano

4/22 vs. Cincinnati: Dempster

4/23 vs. Cincinnati: Lilly

4/24 @ St. Louis: Harden
4/25 @ St. Louis: Marshall or Heilman

4/26 @ St. Louis: Zambrano
4/27 @ Arizona: Dempster

4/28 @ Arizona: Lilly

4/29 @ Arizona: Harden
4/30 vs. Florida: Marshall or Heilman

You have to assume that if Marshall ends up winning the 5th starter spot, that Lou will want to break-up the lefties and put Lilly third and Marshall fifth. He runs into a little dilemma the first time he needs a 5th starter though on the 19th, but I recall him mentioning last year that the Cardinals were weaker against lefties (.796 OPS vs. righties, .753 vs. lefties), so he might not mind doubling up against them and then he can reset the rotaton the next day. Of course, Harden might have a setback and be the 5th starter that gets skipped. If that happens, I could see Lilly getting moved up the second spot with Dempster dropping to the third.

Also, if the Cubs do go with four starters for the first two weeks, they can carry an extra bench bat which would be a nice bonus when starters are even less likely to go deep in games.

In other Zambrano news, the Venezuelan players are under the assumption that Carlos will be available for Round 2 of the WBC according to an article in the Edmonton Sun. I assume Hugo Chávez has assured him he can play first base and hit.

Comments

Why would Harden pitch the 15th and the 19th? Trying to break him sooner rather than later?

counting is hard...

Nice article on Mark Prior over at Yahoo

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-prior0311...

I found this interesting...

You’d hope so, though the universal consensus is that Cubs manager Dusty Baker abused Prior at the end of the 2003 season simply because he knew no better. In Prior’s last nine games, including three in the playoffs, he logged the following pitch counts: 131, 129, 109, 124, 131, 133, 132, 115, 119. House believes the overuse by Baker doomed Prior. Eight pitchers this decade have thrown 109 or more pitches in nine straight games, and half of them needed reconstructive arm surgery. The only other pitchers this decade to throw at least four 130-plus-pitch games in a season, let alone in two months, are Livan Hernandez and Randy Johnson.

Prior is in some elite company for throwing 130 pitch games. You might be able to survive it if your a seasoned veteran like Livan or Randy, but making a rookie do it was border line criminal.

I said it during these 130 pitch games, i don't care how perfect his mechanics seem to be, he is not a robot. His body has never experienced this kind of stress and he needs to be taken out of games to rest.

Even Prior admits he didn't have perfect mechanics but no one (*cough* Dusty's Cubs *cough*) listened.

Either they just don't make them like Nolan Ryan anymore or Nolan Ryan was just a freak of nature. He would throw in the mid-to-upper 90s well into the 9th inning. 100 pitches was just a 'warm up'.

130 pitches more than a few times in a row = your arm is dead.

sure, they used to pitch more games per season...on less days rest...and throw as hard while spending the offseason doing everything but being on throwing programs because they were usually working.

still...you know...umm...ummm...hmmm.

I couldn't agree more with you Rob and always contended that the only thing Dusty ever knew about pitching was how to hit it reasonably well. A writers comment during the 2003 NLCS put it best about his managerial ability -- one guy was managing every game like the 7th game of the World Series and the other guy was managing it like the rubber game of 3 game series in August. Guess who was who?

Dusty was and is a monumental dumb-ass. On top of that, he gives every oral indication that he is an apologist, enabler, and plays the race card every time it suits the position he favors. Half the posters on this board could manage a MLB team better than Dusty dumb-ass.

not that I disagree with much of it, but that was Mike C.

if they do go with a 4-man rotation through the 19th...

C- Soto, Bako
INF - Lee, Hoffpauir, Miles, Fontenot, Theriot, Ramirez, (one of) Rivas, Koskie, Scales
OF - Soriano, Fukudome, Bradley, Johnson, Gaithright

SP - Z, Dempster, Lilly, Harden
Pen- Marmol, Gregg, Cotts, Heilman, Marshall, Vizcaino, Gaudin or Guzman

then they can figure out a roster move on the off-day on the 20th...

Would love to see Ascanio or Samardzija replace Vizcaino unless can start finding home plate without a search party. Also, I'm not necessarily with the great Gathright experiment. I'm not convinced he can outhit Fuld and probably isn't measureably better with the glove or on the bases. It's the 25th player on the roster, so I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.......I'm just saying. Also, I wish the Angel Guzman from 2003 would show up between now and April 5th.

To me it makes sense to save Harden till April 19th. Why waste him in April vs September?

Unless holding him back will make no difference in terms of wear at the middle or end of season. I would assume Lou and Rothchild have an idea.

I think Vizcaino is gonna get dealt or released or "DL'd"

What sort of leash do you think Harden will be on to start the season? I would imagine he gets pull at 70-80 pitches his first few starts. Being a strikeout pitcher, this puts him at maybe the 5th inning.

What I'm getting at is: Could we see a Harden/Marshall tandem at the 4 spot and Heilman throwing 5 for the first month? I don't think Lou would want to go into a game knowing he needs at least 4 innings out of his bullpen.

Marshall is used to coming into games anyways. And I personally think their styles clash tremendously, which could result in 8 great innings.

not a bad idea, but I think if Harden makes it through spring training w/o any setbacks he will be on a 100 pitch count limit and probably 100-110 for most of the year.

my guess is they'd like to back off on Harden in the summer and September more than April. Cubs have a couple of big head-2-head series in April vs. Cards, Brewers, Astros and Cincy.

 

looks like Darvish is getting the start for Japan, Fukudome batting 6th.

I [would] love to see him pitch. Is this being televised anywhere?

oh, you think the Cubs facing one of Japan's biggest prospect and one of their teammates would be interesting television?

I mean who would want to watch that when you can get scrub Cubs vs scrub White Sox in Las Vegas instead.

so yeah, don't think it's on anywhere...lame.

Yeah. You're right. Who'd want to see that? Who wants to see Ichiro, Darvish and Fukkakedome play the Cubs? But, to be fair, the D-Bags game was on MLB.TV at the same time, which is almost good enough.

But seriously, who decides this shit? It's fucking unsmarted.

as a symbol of the global recession....

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/shysterball/arti...

they could have picked a better subject to tie that rant into...

"Skybox on Sheffield last week began offering 12- and 18-game packages. The packages, which range from $1,740 per person up to $3,150, include admission to the rooftop overlooking right field, plus food and drinks."

sitting 800ft. away from the game paying $150-$300 per game isn't exactly going to bring too many socio-economic levels of society together.

Have Chavez & Zombie ever been seen in the same place @ same time?

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0706103/

good luck wasting their money on that. hopefully i won't have to pay higher pay tv rates to support the hole they're going to throw money down. there's many more powerful and bankrolled who can't do what they propose.

you know what the main issue is...that too many of these people don't get...

THE USA ISN'T THE WORLD...good luck pushing that lobbying and lawmaking in Brazil, Nigeria, Germany, Uruguay, etc.

i know a place online that streams games during the season...it's from japan or korea or some area where they have a language that looks like a bunch of stick houses.

While they can't stop P2P in other countries, I wonder if they can make some sort of law banning watching things on P2P in the US (even if it's being broadcast from China, Brazil, Japan...) much like Internet gambling in the US. Not that I'm too worried, I still download music and movies illegally, so I'm not going to stop watching P2P sporting events.

P2P has many legit uses and users...not to mention forms of P2P are the "way of the future" vs. single-server driven file serving.

the only way to effectively stop it is having your ISP watch your online activity. aside from government spook computers that run themselves with no on-site technician aside (yes, they really exist) ISPs don't want to be in the business of hooking spooky crap up to their services to scare away customers. They even fought the govt. computers pretty damn hard.

That's fucking ridiculous. Like I said previously, I pay for MLB.TV every fucking year. Then they call my using P2P to watch games that they've decided not to show me as 'piracy'? Fuck all. God forbid I get to watch games of the team I support financially with subscriptions and merchandising.

Chad Cordero signs a minor league deal with Seattle Mariners (per Rosenthal)

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9330008/Source:...

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  • "Like the Chapman deal for Cubs from on-field POV, wish I didn't now have to feel lousy following an otherwise likable Cubs team." @jonahkeri

    pretty much sums up my feelings

    Rob G. 1 hour 45 min ago view
  • You mean Yankees?

    QuietMan 1 hour 49 min ago view
  • Cards lose!

    billybucks 1 hour 56 min ago view
  • You do have a point. The TheoJed certainly would need to address this in a transparent way. Milton Bradley was no help to the team.

    The E-Man 2 hours 8 min ago view
  • FWIW, the Cubs would get a compensation draft pick between the 1st & 2nd rounds (around #35) if they extend a Qualifying Offer to Chapman post-2016 (probably about $17M), Chapman declines, and then he signs with another MLB club before next year's draft. 

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 14 min ago view
  • This all assumes Chapman doesn't want to be a free agent and possibly sign a $20MM+/year deal. We all know free agents get overpaid, sometimes dramatically (Hello, JayHey!). Not sure why Chapman would agree to the extension. If i'm is agent, I would tell him I could get I'm a $100M deal as a FA.

    billybucks 2 hours 22 min ago view
  • I'll root for the uniform and imagine it's left-handed Rod Beck or Randy Myers out there I suppose.

    Rob G. 2 hours 45 min ago view
  • Amen to this. I guess it's gonna happen and I'm gonna have to suck it up but I really despise domestic abusers with every bone in my body and cannot stand them on any team I root for.

    johann 2 hours 54 min ago view
  • I just prefer they don't  acquire players that choke their wives/girlfriends.

    Rob G. 2 hours 57 min ago view
  • So you'd rather go with Blown Save guy, when you can trade a prospect who is blocked for one piece that could get you over the top to the Big Dance? That is pretty old thinking. This is not a move that they cannot recover from if it goes south. But the upside is potentially historic.

    The E-Man 3 hours 7 min ago view
  • I'd prefer it not happen too.

    Rob G. 3 hours 33 min ago view
  • it's a hell of a blockbuster, but it's for a guy who pitches 1/3rd of a season at an extreme premium considering the guy being traded and if the early extension $$$ rumors are true.

    it's one of those things that is bringing a guy at the top his game, but something is nagging me that this trade piece could have been put to better use.

    a huge part of me is all "hell yeah, top of the line producer"...another part of me is "hmm, that for that?"

    crunch 3 hours 37 min ago view
  • Still don't want. Kinda hope they can't work out the extension.

    Charlie 3 hours 49 min ago view
  • obviously not, and I'm sure they did their homework...just hope they have some better answers than the Yankees

    Rob G. 3 hours 49 min ago view
  • Chapman 12+ Career WAR. Currently 4.7:1 k-BB. With Rondon/Chapman/Strop/Nathan/Montgomery/Wood...Its the best pen I can recall other than Sutter or Lee Smith handling things themselves.

    Its gonna suck if he gets injured, and it appears he's not the greatest of characters.

    But, he'll have another Cuban to hang out with on the team.

    The E-Man 4 hours 11 min ago view
  • I agree with the names you mention but there are lots of names being tossed around still and there's that small matter of Chapman agreeing to the extension.

    Old and Blue 4 hours 16 min ago view