DeRosa Not Too Right-Handed Today

Mark DeRosa drove in four runs with two long home runs and a sacrifice fly and scored another run after reaching base on a double, as the Cleveland Indians defeated the Cubs 7-5 before 13,097 fans at sunny and breezy Dwight Patterson Field at Ho Ho Kam Park in Mesa this afternoon.

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DeRosa's two home runs were both monster shots, one crashing into the scoreboard in LF, and the other one missing the scoreboard only because it went over the fence too far toward CF. But the double was even more incredible, as it hit the upper part of the 30-foot high "Green Monster" (Batter's Eye) in dead CF.  

All of the DeRo blasts were hit off Cubs starter Ted Lilly, who would have had a nice final line if it wasn't for his ex-teammate (both with the Cubs & Team USA) crushing his pitches every time he came up to the plate againt him. If I didn't know better, I would say there must have been some kind of pre-arranged deal for Lilly to throw "BP fastballs" to DeRosa to allow the ex-Cub to put on a long-ball dsplay in front of the assembled Mesa multitude. 

Ex-Cub Kerry Wood also returned to Ho Ho Kam Park today for the first time since signing as a Free-Agent with the Tribe during the off-season, and pitched the 7th inning against his former club. . 

Both DeRosa and Wood received loud ovations from Cub fans when they were announced.

The Indians took a 2-0 lead in the top of the 1st inning off Lilly, when lead-off man Grady Sizemore lined a single to the outfield and DeRosa hit his first HR (the one to the CF side of the scoreboard). But Lilly then retired eight in a row quite impressively (6-3, Ks, Ks, F-8, Ks, F-8, Kc, Ks).

But DeRosa broke Lilly's magic spell, hitting a solo HR (the one off the scoreboard) with two outs in the top of the 3rd, giving Cleveland a 3-0 lead.

The Cubs loaded the bases in the bottom of the 2nd against Indians starter RHP Fausto Carmona on two singles and an error, but Lilly and Alfonso Soriano struck out, leaving the bases full. 

The Cubs did score in the next inning, however, Ryan Theriot grounded a single to lead-off the 3rd, and then with one-out, Milton Bradley (hitting LH) smashed a home run over both bullpens in RF, making it 3-2 Indians.

Lilly gave up a couple of harmless singles in the 4th and had retired the first two men in the 5th, when DeRosa unloaded his moon-shot off the CF Batter's Eye for a two-out double. Victor Martinez followed with a line shot RBI single to score DeRosa from 2nd, and the Indians took a 5-2 lead.

The Cubs came back to score a run in the bottom of the 5th, as Theriot bounced a double down the LF line and Derrek Lee hammered a single between 2nd & 3rd into LF to put runners on 1st & 3rd with no outs. Milton Bradley grounded out to the 1st baseman (unassisted) as Theriot scored and D-Lee took second, but Aramis Ramirez and Mike Fontenot grounded out to end the threat.  

Lilly had thrown 73 pitches through five innings, and I really thought that was probably going to be his limit. But he did return to the mound to start the 6th, although there was activity in the bullpen. And Lilly was indeed clearly tiring as he began the 6th, walking Ryan Garko and Ben Francisco (his first two walks of the day), before getting relieved. 

For the day, Lilly pitched five innings (plus two batters in the sixth), allowing four runs (all earned) on seven hits (two HR) and two walks. while striking out eight. He threw 92 pitches (66 strikes), with a 2/5 GO/FO. Other than when he faced DeRosa, I thought he looked pretty good.  

Chad Gaudin relieved Lilly, coming into the game in a tough situation, with no outs and runners on 1st & 2nd. But he retired Jamey Carroll on an infield pop up, Tony Graffanino on an F-8 fly out, and pitcher Carmona on a 5-3 bunt out to get out of the jam. 

The 7th was another story, however, as Gaudin first got pounded, and then could not find the strike zone.

Grady Sizemore roped Gaudin's very first pitch of the 7th into the RF corner for a lead-off triple. DeRosa then hit a F-8 SF to deep CF to score Sizemore, before Victor Matinez lined a single to CF. Gaudin struck out Jhonny Peralta, but AAA OF George Lombard turned a Gaudin offering around, launching it over the two bullpens beyond the RF fence, just about exactly where Bradley hit his dinger earlier in the game. Gaudin walked Ben Francisco before striking out Wilson Valdez for the final out of the inning. . 

In his two innings of work, Gaudin allowed three runs (earned) on three hits (including a triple and a HR), and one walk, with two strikeouts. He threw 39 pitches (23 strikes) over the two innings, but he needed 29 pitches to get out of the 7th, while throwing only 15 strikes that inning. He certainly did not do anything to ensure a spot in the Cubs bullpen with today's outing.

On the other hand Rule 5 RHP David Patton continued to make a favorable impression, working an easy ten-pitch 1-2-3 8th, getting two strikeouts (both swinging) around an F-7 fly out.

Kerry Wood faced only four Cubs batters in the bottom of the 7th, getting Alfonso Soriano on a fly out (F-7) to lead off the inning, before walking Ryan Theriot on four pitches. But Micah Hoffpauir flied out harmlessly F-9, and Milton Bradley was called out on strikes (and he knew it, too, as Woody must have fooled him with a 3-2 slider).

The Cubs did narrow the score to 7-5 in the bottom of the 8th against Japanese RHP Masahide Kobayashi. Aramis Ramirez doubled to the deepest reaches of CF to lead-off the inning, before Reed Johnson unloaded a two-run HR off the scoreboard beyond the LF fence. Koyie Hill then followed with an opposite-field near HR sliced down the LF line (it was caught by the left-fielder, however), and Joey Gathright lined a shot into left-center, using his speed to reach second-base on a "hustle double." But Aaron Miles and Alfonso Soriano grounded out to end the threat, and the score remained 7-5 in favor of the visitors. ,

LHP Neal Cotts worked an 11-pitch 9th (nine strikes), striking out DeRosa before allowing one single to the outfield and an infield single (Aaron Miles threw the ball away for an error attempting to get the runner at 1st base, allowing the runner arriving at 2nd base--Victor Martinez--to advance to 3rd), but Cotts then got the tyhe left-handed hitting Lombard to tap into a "room service" 4-6-3 DP to end the inning on the very next pitch. 

The Cubs attempted to mount a rally in the bottom of the 9th off Cleveland's hard-throwing LHRP Rafael Perez, but it fizzled pretty quickly. Andres Blanco popped out to open the frame, and then Micah Hoffpauir struck out (swinging). But "strike three" got away from catcher Victor Martinez, and Hoffpauir was able to reach first base when Martinez's throw hit Hoffpauir in the back while he was running to 1st (and he was running in the lane, so it wasn't interference). But So Taguchi struck out swinging (and looked terrible in the process, as he swing late on every pitch), before Esteban German grounded out sharply 6-3 on a 3-2 pitch to end the game and seal the Cactus League victory for the Indians.

BTW, Andres Blanco, So Taguchi, and Esteban German were all sent to Minor League Camp after the game (and they were probably the last to know, too), but FWIW, LHP Mike Stanton was warming up in the Cubs bullpen during the bottom of the 9th in case the game had gone to extra innings, so he is definitely still around. I don't know why, but he is...  

Besides Bradley's HR and three RBI and Reed Johnson's two-run dinger, several other Cubs had good days at the plate today. Ryan Theriot reached base all four times he batted on a double, a single, and two walks, Joey Gathright had three hits (two singles and the "hustle double") and also made a nice running catch at the fence in left-center, and Aramis Ramirez had a single and a double. 

The Cubs travel out to Surprise (which is halfway to California as far as I'm concerned) tomorrow to face the Kansas City Royals, before returning to Mesa on Tuesday.   


Finally some fantasy good news.

and Scott Eyre is STILL having money problems!

I am not sure what day is trash day in Mesa but could the Cubs leave Mr. Gaudin out by the curb this week. Please.

Speaking of trash, Muscrat says the Cubs have cut ties with Mark Pawelek. Thats Harvey, Johnson, and Pawelek in one week. Sad.

Glad they cut that guy. 21 year old lefties with mid 90's fastballs have no place in this organization.

Get with the Cubbie way kid!!!

Yeah, unless he's really injured or has good a bad attitude, this is just dumb. Stash him away in A ball and let him see if he can figure it out.

This is disappointing. What is gained by cutting ties with Pawelek at this point?

I'm 99% sure I remember reading somewhere that Pawelek is like Andy Sisco, in that he has a real attitude problem and refuses to take direction well. Maybe Phil can elaborate. If true, then they cut him because he is a bad influence on other young pitchers, at least that's the reason they gave for giving up on Sisco via the Rule V.

I tend to giving the Cubs the benefit of the doubt on these things, they've usually made the right call.

And I'm near-certain Pawelek's money was as a signing bonus, so that's a sunk cost, making it even easier to let him go. He certainly has no trade value.

Who needs DeRosa's bat when we lefty Gabor? sigh..........
We're going to miss DeRo.
I don't have the link but, surprise, Rich Hill is on the 15-day DL for Baltimore.

a little 3/44 on that Mike Vail.

Koyie Hill won the backup catcher job.

Now sit back and wait for Rob to post it.

Stanton also released, per Muskrat's blog.

Nav, relax, you posted lineups yesterday in an old post and Rob posted the lineups - as usual - in the new game thread. I don't really think he needs to give you credit for beating him on something like lineups by about 10 minutes.

What the hell are you talking about? Who gives a shit about who posted a lineup first.

My bad, I went back and looked, it appears you were bitching about Rob posting the Gregg over Marmol announcement after you had posted it in the comments. But I agree with your point: "Who gives a shit who posted it first?"

Your first post under Rob's thread yesterday was a whiny Scott Eyre comment; and now this comment about Hill over Bako. Is Rob not supposed to post anything if it shows up in the comments first? I don't get it.

Navigator is five cards short of a full deck, there's no point in trying to figure it out. But I'll happily relay the way I do things.

MOST (not some, not a few, MOST) of our readers don't read the comments, so if something is worth posting that may have been covered in the comments, I will post it in a story. If it's something I was legitimately tipped on by someone in the comments or on another blog, I'm usually pretty good about giving them credit, particularly radio reports which I don't listen much of. If it's something I read in my Google Reader or on another website and it happened to be covered in the comments as well, I don't really see the point in crediting them for the find. Sometimes I do (usually if it's not a source in my Google Reader), sometimes I don't....but it's really no big deal to me.

And if you're legitimately upset about it, I don't care. I really don't.

Before making any new post you should always review all the comments for the last week to make sure that someone didn't hurridly jot down one sentence of information which probably came from the same source as your information so you can credit him with 'breaking the story' at

Once again... you really don't get it, do you?

Do you really not think that fairly significant roster moves and decisions on roles don't belong on the front page?

If you want to feel like you are breaking news... go start your own blog.

Sullivan is strongly of the opinion that Lilly was throwing BP to DeRosa.

Also, Donnie Veal seems to be ending the spring with a bout of wildness--twelve walks in his last eight innings.

"It is a stretch anytime you take a player out of Double-A and put him in the big leagues," [GM Neal] Huntington said.

Sure, but Veal's wildness held him in AA for two years.

that first link says they're going to leave Kerry's corner locker vacant for the season out of respect to Kerry.

That seems a bit much. I love Kerry and all, but he was a bit more promise than performance in his 10 years with the team. 

Sure, over the course of the past 10 years it seemed like he was injured more often than he was healthy, but the times when he did perform were often so spectacular that they made me forget about the lost seasons.

I also think this is Cubs management sending a message that guys who put the team first and lead by example will be treated accordingly, even after they leave. Try to think of another player who felt guilty about taking a big paycheck while injured so he signed a below-market deal just to try to repay the team? That's the Kerry Wood I remember, and that's the guy the Cubs are honoring this season.

I've said this before, but it's worth repeating - it's really nice for a change to have a star player leave before he overstays his welcome and the fans turn on him.

1. Best headline of the year. I love it. 2. "If I didn't know better, I would say there must have been some kind of pre-arranged deal for Lilly to throw "BP fastballs" to DeRosa" DO you know better? Sounds plausible, at least, to me... Then again, I also believe that my office neighbor is reading my mind.

1. Agreed. The headline definitely made me laugh. Then I wallowed in bitterness for two and one half seconds. Then I read the article.

2. Isn't Lilly pretty competitive?

Submitted by Rob G. on Mon, 03/30/2009 - 12:30pm. that first link says they're going to leave Kerry's corner locker vacant for the season out of respect to Kerry.


ROB G: The Yankees did the same thing with Lou Gehrig's locker 1939-40 while The Iron Horse was dying of ALS. Hopefully KW isn't terminal.

BTW, the reason the Yankees "retired" Lou Gehrig's number wasn't because he was a great player, but rather because they didn't have the heart to reassign it during the two seasons he was on the DL at the end of his life, and then they couldn't bring themselves to reissue the number after he died, either.

By comparison, Babe Ruth's #3 wasn't retired until many years after he retired, and then only because he was dying of throat cancer. Several Yankees wore Ruth's #3 during the years after Ruth left the Yankees, mostly George Selkirk, but also the likes of Bud Matheny, Eddie Bockman, Roy Weatherly, Frank Colman, and Cliff Mapes.

Back when AZ Phil was a youngster (1964), Cubs 2B Ken Hubbs died in a private plane crash in Utah while en route to Spring Training in Mesa, and Cubs Clubhouse Man Yosh Kawano took it upon himself to unofficialy retire Hubbs #16 for a few years (1964-69), but it eventually was reissued (to Roger Metzger) in 1970.

When Yosh finally did take the number out of retirement, he said he would only issue it to players with the talent & character of Ken Hubbs.

Personally, I think that's the best way to honor a player. Don't retire his number. Just issue it to those who deserve to wear the number.

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