Marshall Draws Giants Ace as Cubs Go for Fifth Straight Win

Pitchers: Tim Lincecum (2-1, 3.16) vs. Sean Marshall (0-1, 3.32).

Lincecum opened the season with two rough starts, resulting in a no-decision and a loss. In his last three outings, however, he has gone 3-0, 1.57, with 33 strikeouts and 4 walks and a .193 BA Against. He dazzled the Cubs in a game last July at Wrigley, becoming the first pitcher to beat Ryan Dempster last season in The Friendly Confines.

Marshall pitched well enough to beat the Marlins last week, though the bullpen failed him in the only game the Cubs have lost thus far on this brief homestand.

Here is the Cubs batting order...

Gathright, cf
Miles, ss
Fukudome, rf
Lee, 1b
Hoffpauir, lf
Fontenot, 3b
Scales, 2b
Hill, c
Marshall, p

...and per Chris DeLuca of the Sun-Times, here is the manager's explanation of the fact that Babe Theriot, Soriano, Ramirez, Soto, and Bradley are all sitting:

''Look, it's tough to sit anybody, but the fact remains that nobody
is going to play 162 ballgames,'' Piniella said. ''I said that we were
going to rest people coming out of spring training, and we've done a
pretty good job of it so far.''

You made it, Bobby: Scales is making his Major League debut after 11 years and more than a thousand games in the minors. I hope he does something today to make the fans cheer, and I hope there is someone he loves inside the ballpark to take it all in.

Also today, Joey Gathright is making his first start as a Cub, and Aaron Miles will be at shortstop for the first time since the second night of the season.

And finally, you can yell all you want at the game today...Bob Howry can't hear you.

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Blech! You forgot Soto sitting as well. What a lineup!

Thanks. Just added his name to the list. And yes--blech!

This lineup sucks more than a Hoover XL.

(Really hoping it's one of those surprise David-unexpectedly-tops-Goliath games...)

Yeah, I prefer the staggered approach to resting the starters. I wonder how much it has to do with protecting stats or not wanting to get the struggling guys (Bradley and Soto in particular) even more screwed up.

The good thing is that with the Scrubs in, our lineup is probably about equal to San Fran's. If Marshall wants the win, he can go get it.

Good points Neal! With the tough pitcher today maybe that is why those guys are getting the day off.

Re: Lou's comment
Soto, Ramirez and Bradley have had more than enough days off this year that they don't need rest. So I don't really understand Lou's comments. Of course Soto has caught 4 straight games and this is a day game after a night game so that is what Lou should have said as to resting Soto. So really it is curious as to why Ramirez and Bradley are not playing today, but I think Neal's points are the real reason.

Might as well rest everyone on the same day. Get everyone's rest day out of the way during the Lincecum start.

Aw, leave Bobby Howry alone.

Remember when that crazed fan ran out to the mound to yell at him? Good times.

If Lincejiz wasn't pitching I would have very little interest in watching this AAA matchup.

Heh... Lou, on the pre-game show, just said, "We are starting to see green on the ivory."

Yes... he said ivory.

IVory - ivy - same thing!

BAck to the lineup - As was posted last thread: "sacrificial lamb game".

Our #5 against your #1.

What I am wondering - isn't Scales more accomplished at 3rd?

Why is Lou not leaving Fonty at 2B?

WTF?!

I wondered the same thing, but decided that Lou must have designated Pepper Spray the #1 backup at third, and consequently wants him to get all the spot starts there. Or it could be that in Scales's debut they wanted him at the position he is most comfortable, or as Joe Morgan would say 'caurmfotable'.

ROB G - can you please fix the "E" in the logo? It still looks like an "F".

Thanks!

If we're not careful, RobG's gonna tell us to go euck ourselves.

I don't see how this lineup can fail.

Also, Scales at 2nd and Fontenot at 3rd makes all sorts of sense.

Poor Reed Johnson. Two of the starting outfielders sit out and he doesn't get to play? FREE JOHNSON!

With the current lineup, with the exception of Lee, the entire lineup is either lefty or switch hitting.

did whittenmyer abandon Twitter?

OUCH!!!!! Not a good start. Down 3-0 already.

Shocking... manny shows up when things go badly.

HA HA

Yeah, I haven't been around at all the past 4 games when they are 4-0.

You are Clueless!!!

Wow this lineup is the equivalent of the Bears punting on first down.

Well, they might as well punt right away, before they lose the ball some other way, or lose ground. They need to get their scoring defense back on the field!

Ron Santo is awesome today...

"Rich Aurillio..." "Linc... Lincecomb..."

(on Hoffpauir's warning-track hit)
"Normally that would have been out yesterday."

Congrats to you Bobby Scales!

why is it Molinas have it out for us?

Very nice outing for Marshall. He is giving the Cubs a chance to win, against the reigning Cy Young(?) winner...

Howry throws a splitter and a slider? This is news to me. Do both pitches have very little vertical movement, tail in toward right handed batters, and arrive at the plate in the low 90s?

I always thought he threw a fastball, a straight change, and the occasional hanging slider.

I always thought he threw a fastball, a straight change, and the occasional hanging slider.

lol... nice

Nice outing by Marshall. After the homer he really buckled down. Let's hope these tone deaf 7th-inning singers don't mess up his mojo.

Nice outing by Marshall. After the homer he really buckled down.

I still want to know how Marshall is a) inconsistent, and b) more inconsistent than Jason Marquis.

Okay.

Bases loaded, no outs. We have them right where we want them.

Oh wait - they're not the Cubs.

In other news... Samardjiza is strugglin'.

cub bullpen was due for a suck-fest

title for post game wrapup: shark bites baby bear

shark needs to be stretched out again...do they have one of those machines in the weight room?

There's always football.

you know you suck as a reliever when they bring in Cotts to bail you out

(and Cotts looks good in the process)

nice lineup...why even bother playing the game?

yeesh.

at least marmol/gregg aren't needed after throwing 100-120 pitches each 5 out of the last 6 days.

Lou would have been crazy like a fox if they would have won this one. Actually in some ways it shows you he has some confidence in the team overall to give one away like this.

On the getting cold watch: Fukudome. Hopefully he doesn't go back to his 2nd half 08 look.

I've said all along that Samardzija isn't really the answer. I don't have a problem with him on the roster but its going to take some refinement before he becomes a real contributor.

Yeah K-Fuk has cooled down significantly.

He is now:
- 1 for his last 18 (.055)
- 9 for his last 40 (.225)

Let's hope this is more of a slump and not what the majority of his season was last year. Unfortunately I am not too optimistic on it being only a slump.

One day I'll hammer the merits of TTO and BABIP into you guys' heads, I swear it.

Over his last 16 PA's, Fukudomke has had 1 K and 5 BB's. In the 10 other at bats he's got a .100 BABIP, for a .375. Normally he should have 2 to 3 more hits over 10 at bats. Nothing to worry about, just vagaries of small sample size.

One day I'll hammer the merits of TTO and BABIP into you guys' heads, I swear it.

Good luck with that... there are some that will just never get it.

TTO is a shit stat unless you're dealing with power hitters, imo...and even then it's a "well, duh" stat that "proves" the obvious. There's nothing to hammer home about it.

Quote:

"He is now:
- 1 for his last 18 (.055)".

i stand by my statement.

I "get it", but I care more about what a player actually does not if he was lucky or unlucky. The fact is K-Fuk has been hitting poorly lately.

No, you don't get it. The fact is that he's been doing fine, just had some bad luck. If he was striking out and not walking, that would be 'hitting poorly'. Essentially what you're saying is 'I am really worried about Fukudome, he's continue to show excellent plate discipline and is hitting the ball but not enough balls in this 12 at bat sample size (1 for 12) have fallen for hits.' Think, man.

No, what I am saying is he is hitting like shit. Period!!

You can spin it anyway you want, but results are what matter to me, not some made up stat that says poor K-Fuk is unlucky. No he is hitting like shit. It is simple. Think man!

They are all "made up" stats. Runs happen to be the ones that count toward winning or losing. Batting average doesn't necessarily predict success or failure anymore than line drive rates, contact rates, batting average on balls in play, etc. My personally favorite is just watching the guy's at bats. Sadly, I haven't been able to do that. Have you guys? Has he been hitting the ball hard, squaring it up? Has he been hitting a lot of line drives or hard ground balls right at people? Has he been getting screwed by umpires? These things are as worth talking about, if you want to anticipate how he will perform in coming days, as batting average.

Fantasy Team Ryno regularly uses BABIP since you introduced me to that website. Thanks. So for my fantasy team's sake, I hope your witchdoctor stats work.

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  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 4 min 21 sec ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 12 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 23 min 44 sec ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 25 min 33 sec ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 47 min 52 sec ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 48 min 20 sec ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 57 min 9 sec ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 17 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 1 hour 47 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 1 hour 51 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 54 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 14 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 2 hours 17 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 2 hours 19 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 2 hours 22 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 2 hours 24 min ago view