Marshall Draws Giants Ace as Cubs Go for Fifth Straight Win

Pitchers: Tim Lincecum (2-1, 3.16) vs. Sean Marshall (0-1, 3.32).

Lincecum opened the season with two rough starts, resulting in a no-decision and a loss. In his last three outings, however, he has gone 3-0, 1.57, with 33 strikeouts and 4 walks and a .193 BA Against. He dazzled the Cubs in a game last July at Wrigley, becoming the first pitcher to beat Ryan Dempster last season in The Friendly Confines.

Marshall pitched well enough to beat the Marlins last week, though the bullpen failed him in the only game the Cubs have lost thus far on this brief homestand.

Here is the Cubs batting order...

Gathright, cf
Miles, ss
Fukudome, rf
Lee, 1b
Hoffpauir, lf
Fontenot, 3b
Scales, 2b
Hill, c
Marshall, p

...and per Chris DeLuca of the Sun-Times, here is the manager's explanation of the fact that Babe Theriot, Soriano, Ramirez, Soto, and Bradley are all sitting:

''Look, it's tough to sit anybody, but the fact remains that nobody
is going to play 162 ballgames,'' Piniella said. ''I said that we were
going to rest people coming out of spring training, and we've done a
pretty good job of it so far.''

You made it, Bobby: Scales is making his Major League debut after 11 years and more than a thousand games in the minors. I hope he does something today to make the fans cheer, and I hope there is someone he loves inside the ballpark to take it all in.

Also today, Joey Gathright is making his first start as a Cub, and Aaron Miles will be at shortstop for the first time since the second night of the season.

And finally, you can yell all you want at the game today...Bob Howry can't hear you.

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Blech! You forgot Soto sitting as well. What a lineup!

Thanks. Just added his name to the list. And yes--blech!

This lineup sucks more than a Hoover XL.

(Really hoping it's one of those surprise David-unexpectedly-tops-Goliath games...)

Yeah, I prefer the staggered approach to resting the starters. I wonder how much it has to do with protecting stats or not wanting to get the struggling guys (Bradley and Soto in particular) even more screwed up.

The good thing is that with the Scrubs in, our lineup is probably about equal to San Fran's. If Marshall wants the win, he can go get it.

Good points Neal! With the tough pitcher today maybe that is why those guys are getting the day off.

Re: Lou's comment
Soto, Ramirez and Bradley have had more than enough days off this year that they don't need rest. So I don't really understand Lou's comments. Of course Soto has caught 4 straight games and this is a day game after a night game so that is what Lou should have said as to resting Soto. So really it is curious as to why Ramirez and Bradley are not playing today, but I think Neal's points are the real reason.

Might as well rest everyone on the same day. Get everyone's rest day out of the way during the Lincecum start.

Aw, leave Bobby Howry alone.

Remember when that crazed fan ran out to the mound to yell at him? Good times.

If Lincejiz wasn't pitching I would have very little interest in watching this AAA matchup.

Heh... Lou, on the pre-game show, just said, "We are starting to see green on the ivory."

Yes... he said ivory.

IVory - ivy - same thing!

BAck to the lineup - As was posted last thread: "sacrificial lamb game".

Our #5 against your #1.

What I am wondering - isn't Scales more accomplished at 3rd?

Why is Lou not leaving Fonty at 2B?

WTF?!

I wondered the same thing, but decided that Lou must have designated Pepper Spray the #1 backup at third, and consequently wants him to get all the spot starts there. Or it could be that in Scales's debut they wanted him at the position he is most comfortable, or as Joe Morgan would say 'caurmfotable'.

ROB G - can you please fix the "E" in the logo? It still looks like an "F".

Thanks!

If we're not careful, RobG's gonna tell us to go euck ourselves.

I don't see how this lineup can fail.

Also, Scales at 2nd and Fontenot at 3rd makes all sorts of sense.

Poor Reed Johnson. Two of the starting outfielders sit out and he doesn't get to play? FREE JOHNSON!

With the current lineup, with the exception of Lee, the entire lineup is either lefty or switch hitting.

did whittenmyer abandon Twitter?

OUCH!!!!! Not a good start. Down 3-0 already.

Shocking... manny shows up when things go badly.

HA HA

Yeah, I haven't been around at all the past 4 games when they are 4-0.

You are Clueless!!!

Wow this lineup is the equivalent of the Bears punting on first down.

Well, they might as well punt right away, before they lose the ball some other way, or lose ground. They need to get their scoring defense back on the field!

Ron Santo is awesome today...

"Rich Aurillio..." "Linc... Lincecomb..."

(on Hoffpauir's warning-track hit)
"Normally that would have been out yesterday."

Congrats to you Bobby Scales!

why is it Molinas have it out for us?

Very nice outing for Marshall. He is giving the Cubs a chance to win, against the reigning Cy Young(?) winner...

Howry throws a splitter and a slider? This is news to me. Do both pitches have very little vertical movement, tail in toward right handed batters, and arrive at the plate in the low 90s?

I always thought he threw a fastball, a straight change, and the occasional hanging slider.

I always thought he threw a fastball, a straight change, and the occasional hanging slider.

lol... nice

Nice outing by Marshall. After the homer he really buckled down. Let's hope these tone deaf 7th-inning singers don't mess up his mojo.

Nice outing by Marshall. After the homer he really buckled down.

I still want to know how Marshall is a) inconsistent, and b) more inconsistent than Jason Marquis.

Okay.

Bases loaded, no outs. We have them right where we want them.

Oh wait - they're not the Cubs.

In other news... Samardjiza is strugglin'.

cub bullpen was due for a suck-fest

title for post game wrapup: shark bites baby bear

shark needs to be stretched out again...do they have one of those machines in the weight room?

There's always football.

you know you suck as a reliever when they bring in Cotts to bail you out

(and Cotts looks good in the process)

nice lineup...why even bother playing the game?

yeesh.

at least marmol/gregg aren't needed after throwing 100-120 pitches each 5 out of the last 6 days.

Lou would have been crazy like a fox if they would have won this one. Actually in some ways it shows you he has some confidence in the team overall to give one away like this.

On the getting cold watch: Fukudome. Hopefully he doesn't go back to his 2nd half 08 look.

I've said all along that Samardzija isn't really the answer. I don't have a problem with him on the roster but its going to take some refinement before he becomes a real contributor.

Yeah K-Fuk has cooled down significantly.

He is now:
- 1 for his last 18 (.055)
- 9 for his last 40 (.225)

Let's hope this is more of a slump and not what the majority of his season was last year. Unfortunately I am not too optimistic on it being only a slump.

One day I'll hammer the merits of TTO and BABIP into you guys' heads, I swear it.

Over his last 16 PA's, Fukudomke has had 1 K and 5 BB's. In the 10 other at bats he's got a .100 BABIP, for a .375. Normally he should have 2 to 3 more hits over 10 at bats. Nothing to worry about, just vagaries of small sample size.

One day I'll hammer the merits of TTO and BABIP into you guys' heads, I swear it.

Good luck with that... there are some that will just never get it.

TTO is a shit stat unless you're dealing with power hitters, imo...and even then it's a "well, duh" stat that "proves" the obvious. There's nothing to hammer home about it.

Quote:

"He is now:
- 1 for his last 18 (.055)".

i stand by my statement.

I "get it", but I care more about what a player actually does not if he was lucky or unlucky. The fact is K-Fuk has been hitting poorly lately.

No, you don't get it. The fact is that he's been doing fine, just had some bad luck. If he was striking out and not walking, that would be 'hitting poorly'. Essentially what you're saying is 'I am really worried about Fukudome, he's continue to show excellent plate discipline and is hitting the ball but not enough balls in this 12 at bat sample size (1 for 12) have fallen for hits.' Think, man.

No, what I am saying is he is hitting like shit. Period!!

You can spin it anyway you want, but results are what matter to me, not some made up stat that says poor K-Fuk is unlucky. No he is hitting like shit. It is simple. Think man!

They are all "made up" stats. Runs happen to be the ones that count toward winning or losing. Batting average doesn't necessarily predict success or failure anymore than line drive rates, contact rates, batting average on balls in play, etc. My personally favorite is just watching the guy's at bats. Sadly, I haven't been able to do that. Have you guys? Has he been hitting the ball hard, squaring it up? Has he been hitting a lot of line drives or hard ground balls right at people? Has he been getting screwed by umpires? These things are as worth talking about, if you want to anticipate how he will perform in coming days, as batting average.

Fantasy Team Ryno regularly uses BABIP since you introduced me to that website. Thanks. So for my fantasy team's sake, I hope your witchdoctor stats work.

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  • it took you 4 posts to get to this?

    have you checked the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector?

    #droppingknowledge #savinglives

    crunch 8 min 49 sec ago view
  • Fwiw, Billy Hamilton's actual WAR numbers that relate to the ones that I posted for Mike Trout are:

    • 2014: 2.5
    • 2015: 1.0
    • 2016: 2.6

    But by all means #crunchsplain on the stupidity of WAR while exaggerating your points. I can't wait to read more.

    Rob G. 14 min 7 sec ago view
  • jacos 14 min 16 sec ago view
  • *stroking intensifies*

    crunch 17 min 45 sec ago view
  • #crunchsplaining

    Thanks for the awesome give and take today and for the 535 words you spilled filling in all the gaps that I woefully neglected. We're all a little wiser and better for it. I look forward to your play-by-play summary later in the comments.

    Rob G. 24 min 14 sec ago view
  • it was about a post comparing players based on WAR...and comparing WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...a post that you made...and i made a comment...that talked about D weighting of WAR...and comparinging WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...etc etc...

    hell, we didn't even get in deep. i didn't even involve UZR or FIP versions and their strengths/weaknesses...or position mandated "handicapping" in points...etc.

    let's not talk about that...cool, fine, awesome. context sucks. san dimas highschool football rules.

    *shrug*

    crunch 32 min 9 sec ago view
  • Ha

    jacos 47 min 47 sec ago view
  • Thanks for shining a light on this very important topic and steering it away from the frivolity that was the awesomenes of Mike Trout, but moreso on the foolishness of WAR as a metric to judge the value of center fielders. We're all a little wiser now and your contributions are invaluable to this community and to America's pastime. God Bless!

    Rob G. 1 hour 10 min ago view
  • so...what's chan-yong lim up to these days?

    http://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1088746-korean-le...

    oh...

    crunch 2 hours 35 min ago view
  • yes, those hamilton WAR numbers are very reasonable. i'm on your side now based on that biting commentary and reasoning of why he's a 3.5-ish WAR player over a 600 PA season.

    those numbers are obviously well deserved and worthy of no scrutiny...none at all. no issue.

    CF D is rarer than a jon lester pickoff at 2nd...totally irreplaceable...no way in hell there's good D, low/no-hitting CF's in anyone's system that could do what hamilton is doing. guys like this don't exist...you get like, 2-3 at any given time in history.

    crunch 2 hours 54 min ago view
  • Please do not discuss War here. I think the Cub Reporter should be politics free.

    But yes, whether you support War or Peace...Mike Trout is ridiculously consistent and good.

    blockhead25 5 hours 13 min ago view
  • ^^^#WARTruther

    Rob G. 5 hours 25 min ago view
  • "According to FOX Sports' Jon Morosi, Tim Tebow's baseball workout Tuesday in Los Angeles will be attended by scouts from "roughly half" of the 30 major league teams."

    "One scout told ESPN.com last week that Tebow's swing is so long it might "take out the front row." That's not a good thing."

    crunch 7 hours 56 min ago view
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    The #MBpelicans and @Cubs have extended their PDC through 2020!
    ----
    Carolina League getting 2 new teams too.

    QuietMan 8 hours 15 min ago view
  • CF WAR is ridiculous...billy hamilton is pulling a 3.0 WAR somehow...and managed a 2.0 WAR last year (even though he missed a month of the season)...and a 3.7 WAR in 2014.

    yeah, a lot depends on how one is doing relative to others at a given position, but WAR is common used (right or wrong) as a blanket comparing all kinds of players.

    trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo.

    crunch 8 hours 20 min ago view
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