Game 107 Thread / Cubs @ Brewers (2 of 4)

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SP Carlos Zambrano SP Ben Sheets
  11-4, 2.96, 87 K, 44 BB, 133.2 IP
10-3, 2.87, 115 K, 31 BB, 135 IP
       
LF Alfonso Soriano 2B #Ray Durham
SS Ryan Theriot SS J.J. Hardy
1B Derrek Lee LF Ryan Braun
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Prince Fielder
CF *Kosuke Fukudome RF Corey Hart
RF Mark DeRosa 3B *Russ Branyan
2B *Mike Fontenot CF Mike Cameron
C Geovany Soto C Jason Kendall
P #Carlos Zambrano P Ben Sheets

My apologies for lack of a game thread last night, I was out on a 3-day weekend celebrating seven years of marriage with the Angelfan wife. Many ask what our secret is (okay, no one does), and the answer? Marry a girl who likes baseball and doesn't mind if you check the scores on your cellphone during a sunset dinner at the beach. Lucky in love I am...

I might be a day late, but I'll pony up a few extra bucks. A comparison of the two teams heading into tonight's game:

Category
Cubs
Brewers
Runs Scored 555 498
Runs Allowed 443 470
Strength of Schedule .492 .499
Team Defensive Efficiency .715 .705
Batting Average .278 .256 
On-Base Perncentage .355  .326
Slugging Percentage .441  .443
Home Runs 121 140 
Stolen Bases 58 74
Starters' ERA 3.80 4.01
Relievers' ERA 3.98 4.05
Walks Allowed 361  360
Strikeouts 798 713

Pretty close, but the Cubs definitely look like the better team on paper. A paper you can light on fire because it's not going to mean much with two games separating the clubs and a raucous crowd filling Miller.

As for the lineup, Edmonds sits again which makes me believe the knee injury is worse than what's been reported. Of course, a career .697 OPS against Sheets in 54 AB's might be another reason, along with Fontenot's hot-hitting of late.  

Zambrano vs Sheets, it doesn't get much more fun that.

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great...i just got a raging case of the cooties reading your 1st paragraph.

i knew i shouldnt have skipped the shot this year.

hopefully WGN can sell me a pill to get rid of this. i could go kayaking or something afterward. maybe high-five some people.

Hey I got you one better cootiemeister- marry a gal who knows nothing about baseball, but turn her into such a fan that not only does she follow the Cubs, but on a pleasant Tuesday evening she suggests we go down to PNC to watch the Pirates play the Rockies. No promotional give-aways, no fireworks, just plain baseball. Usually it's amusing baseball too ("How they gonna blow it tonight?") The $4 grandstand ticket price (not kidding) helps this decision. But last night we were rewarded with the 26th come from behind win out of 50 victories. And my darling wife of 24 years is scoreboard watching the Cubs-Brewers game for updates.

Does she have any sisters who like elderly (50ish) men?

I haven't been paying attention to the condition of our outfielders ... what are Edmonds' and Johnson's issues for tonight?

I believe the Cubs team slugging percentage is .441 so far, not the .326 you have posted. Typo?

Also, any suggestions on where to find a woman like that?

Also, this lineup sucks.

Why isn't Zambrano batting cleanup?

never in my wildest dreams did I think we win the first two.
never in my wildest dreams did I think we would be swept by AZ last year.
baseball...good times.

I completely expected the sweep last year. I didn't expect to win in back-to-back games started by CC and Sheets.

Good times! Now let's keep up the momentum and win this series!

I was at the bar off 1 in Malibu where Mel Gibson got busted for DUI.

Good Blue Moon beer and beautiful sunset.

Thinking about going to Santa Barbara for 10th anniversary...don't know where wife will go.

HIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

GO Cubs!!!

Great game take any spirit out of those Brewer bastards and stomp in the ground like an old Pal Mal.

moonshadows?!??!

yeah,that was it.

Great to see Rammy and Kosuke clubbing the ball -- Kosuke's 2B vs. Shouse was a beauty.

I would love to see Soto hit one ball to right-center.

It looked like Z was firing on all cylanders tonight -- pumped up to go against Sheets, but also in control of himself.

Very solid baseball by the Cubs so far -- hitting, pitching, fielding, base-running. Keep it up, boys!

Go go gadget run differential. +118. Seriously.

Next closest in the NL is Philly at +70. Best in the AL is Boston at +89.

For what it's worth (admittedly not much), MKE is at +22 and STL is at +28.

Our bullpen is shot with Wood out, Howry sucks, DFA Marquis, where's the hitting...oh wait a minute, that was last week ;)

Maybe SD would take Marquis and send us Maddux for old time's sake instead. Interesting comparison is to look at Ted Lilly and Maddux stats this year side by side. Greg would be 8-4 with us instead of 4-8 in SD. Although you couldn't leave Maddux off a play-off roster as easy as Marquis.

Yea... so Doug Davis is throwing a perfect game... he is currently throwing in the 7th.

Doug Davis?

well i like the way the cubs have produced all
series ,good to see rami come thru, starters have been good.

nice to see braun run around in outfield missing everything.

will cubs make any trades?

i would consider cedeno the last positon player on team
is it worth the upgrade?

eyre to the east coast? for a minor leaguer ?

HUNTLEY, Ill. (AP) -- Three Chicago Cubs fans face felony charges after allegedly beating a Chicago White Sox fan so badly at a child's birthday party that he lost his eye, McHenry County authorities said...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5471429&...

Does McHenry County really count as a hotbed of Cubs/Sox rivalry? It's like 3 hours away. This didn't happen at a game or during a game between the teams. Looks sensationalist journalism to me. Blame the thugs not the Cubs.

Ummm... 3 hours? Not quite. More like one hour.

With that said, the vast majority of McHenry County baseball fans are Cubs fans.

Have you ever tried driving from U of Chicago to Woodstock? An hour won't get you out of Chicago. At least 2-1/2 hours from U of Chicago to Wonder Lake unless traffic patterns have changed immensely. But the point remains I doubt McHenry County is perceived as a hotbed of Cubs/Sox rivalry and the story was just being sensationalist. Probably a Sox fan spinning it to make the Cubs look bad.

Since when do we measure the distance from the University of Chicago.

I grew up in McHenry County... my family still lives there, and I live in the city.

I get to them in an hour all the time, and it NEVER takes more than about 75 minutes.

But as I already said above... McHenry County isn't a hotbed of Cubs/Sox rivalry. And this was media sensationalism.

But it still doesn't 3 hours to get to McHenry County from Chicago.

Cubs Fans Could Face Felony Charges after Postgame Fight
http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/26092044.html

Let me preface this first by saying that I am drunk and rowdy everytime I go to wrigley. That being said.... When the hell did cubs fans become F*%N Soccer Hooligans?

It's all fun and games until ...

Quien es mas macho?

Carlos Zambrano es MUY F@#$ing macho

That's who!

looks like Edmonds has an arthritic knee...his previous knee scope included some microfracture work which means he's missing some articular cartilage and they try to stimulate some formation of scar tissue to fill the defect...so expect it to be cranky from here on out. The cortisone can calm things down for awhile though.

from the Sun-Times:

Cubs center fielder Jim Edmonds, who got a cortisone shot in his sore left knee after the game Sunday against the Florida Marlins, said he was ready to play Tuesday but was kept out of the lineup for one more day.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/10810...

Because of Edmonds's injury issues, Levine is reporting that Jimbo is looking for lefty bat for the OF. Personally I think they need a switch hitter because if they add another lefty they will have issues with LHP. He also confirms Eyre can be had for a reasonable price. He didnt mention any names of the lefty bat, but here is a list of quality CF and Corner of who can play defense enough for Lou "just catch the damn ball" Pinella to play in RF:

AL West
Milton Bradley

AL Central:
David DeJesus
Mark Teahan

AL East:
Luke Scott
Brad Wilkerson

NL West:
Randy Winn
Dave Roberts
Jody Gerut
Brian Giles

NL Central:
Ken Griffey Jr.

NL East:
Mark Kotsay

I would doubt Bradley, Dejesus, Giles, or Scott because of the high price to get them. Griffey is also unlikely as the CIN ownership wont deal him to a NL Central team and I would put Winn that category due to his 09 salary. I think of the remaning guys the top 5 candidates could be 1. Kotsay 2. Teahan 3. Roberts 4. Wilkerson 5. Gerut.

If I see Jody Gerut in a Cubs uniform again I'm going to shit.

Rosenthal adds the name of Raul Ibanez into the mix:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8395270/Cubs-lo...

I dont think that would be smart. Ibanez cant play the field and would would be asking Fukudome an average CF to be flanked by two butchers in Ibanez and Soriano. Id rather make a smaller deal for an insurance guy than add an Ibanez.

I have liked Kotsay for a few years now. I think he is a notch above everyone else on the top 5 priority list. I do also think that Gerut is possibly appealing. We got a pretty skewed look at him when he played here before...

Levine is saying Texas and SF have called Jimbo about potential trades. I wonder if Texas would trade David Murphy?

Do they still have Marlon Byrd?

Since Pie has put his early slump behind him in Iowa, he's been raking. Why look elsewhere? Torres might be worth a look too, if Pie fails too miserably, or even Kroeger as a RF.

soriano is no butcher

Soriano is pretty awful as a left fielder. He has acceptable days, but he also has really awful days. He does not have good days.

False

Which part? When has Soriano had a good day in the field, and who has he been better than? Particularly, when has Soriano read a fly ball or ran a route better than...anyone? I will certainly give him credit for his arm, but he's definitely been a butcher with the glove this year. I honestly thought he looked better last year, but maybe I just wanted to believe he'd be a good fielder. I mean, I thought initially that he could someday be an acceptable center fielder. So young.

Chad is right... and I rarely agree with Chad.

Soriano ranked among the top leftfielders in the game last year with his defense.

And his arm alone makes his defense very valuable.

More important here is the thought that how an outfielder 'looks' or the routes he takes to a ball has an bearing on how good a fielder he is. That's a common misconception. What is important is if he catches balls, how quickly he gets to the ones he doesn't catch, and when he throws are the throws quick, accurate and strong. Soriano screws up some balls out there, this year actually seems worse than last year, but he makes a lot of catches in the gap that the Carlos Lee's and Manny Ramirez's of the world have to pick up from the warning track.

Everyone still OK with a split? Anyone? Anyone?

no, I want blood now

I want a bloody sweep now. If i'm gonna root for the Cubs, I'm gonna be greedy about it.

Agreed. BUT - I wouldn't cry with a split either.

How bout a split of these next two? I'll take that.

No, because going in I thought a split should one of the Z/Sheets or Demp/Parra games plus the Harden/Bush game which should be a near lock. Plus a split now keeps us in this win 1 or 2 then lose 2 funk we have had since the break.

I got tickets to Friday's game for my son for a b-day present (will be his first time at Wrigley). My plan was to drive (from Ft. Wayne) to Chesterton IN and get on the South Shore Line and get off at the Van Buren station then walk to the Red Line station @ State & Jackson and take that to Wrigley. It just dawned on me today that Lolla starts Friday and the Metra stop I'm planning to use is right next to Grant Park. Is this going to be a big headache for us? Especially on the way home after the game? Also, about how long is the Red Line trip from Jackson up to Addison?

I'd suggest picking up the Brown Line at Washington & Wells or Quincy and taking that North up to Fullerton or Belmont and transferring to the Red Line. I find that the Red Line is almost unbearable on Cubs' game days, while the Brown line is mostly work commuters. Between the Cubs and Lolla, the Red line is going to be a zoo. A 95 degree, no seat, people crammed everywhere zoo.

The trip should take 35-40 minutes.

Doug Dascenzo
Thanks for the advice I might try the brown line instead, but shouldn't I get on at Adams or Library instead of walking to the other side of the Loop. Also what about walking from the Southport or Belmont station to Wrigley and skip the red line completetly.

should be fine w/ red line on a friday.

most of concert crowd will come in on metra trains from suburbs.

Yeah, I was thinking Ogilvie or Union train stations.

Walking from the Belmont station would only take about 10 minutes (~.5 mile), so that's definitely walkable. Southport would probably be a tad longer.

I usually just take the Brown Line to Belmont and walk 4 blocks north. Don't bother with the Red.

For one thing, the Red Line will be crammed with people, especially closer to Wrigley.

Further, and more aesthetically, there's a nice sense of anticipation walking up Sheffield into thickening street crowds, hearing, then smelling, then seeing Wrigley loom up in the distance.

My 2¢.

The Cubs signed another amateur pitcher from the Pac Rim - Taiwanese RHP Hsin-Hong Tsai. (Check out his ht/wt => he might be 6' and 150 lbs!!) Hopefully AZ Phil will see him sometime soon at Fitch.

Link: http://taiwanbaseball.blogspot.com/2008/07/cubs-si...

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  • ...and the Bryant RBI jinx continues in the 3rd....crap.

    billybucks 16 min 51 sec ago view
  • bryant's in the dugout filling a police report BECAUSE HE JUST GOT ROBBED.

    f'n cabrerra...

    crunch 54 min 20 sec ago view
  • chapman showing up and available tomorrow night.

    i'm sure he'll be a bit hit. hope he doesn't choke. dude has a rifle for an arm. he'll add a bit of punch to the bullpen.

    crunch 55 min 25 sec ago view
  • the 'crosstown classic' sure has lost it's magic with interleague. the excitement level is barely noticable...maybe it's a bit more hype in the city, itself.

    crunch 59 min 45 sec ago view
  • Well he didn't leave a mark so its not that bad.

    Fuck that.

    Facts:

    He choked her.

    Her brother tackled him to separate him.

    He cooled off by shooting his gun in the garage.

    I don't have to like him on the team I follow.

    And you are others are free to not give a shit about his personal misgivings if you so choose as well.

     

     

    Rob G. 1 hour 18 min ago view
  • Sure, no marks and some inconsistencies in the witness's statements. But firing your gun into garage wall immediately after an argument and punching out your car window is still threatening and out of control behavior. There was certainly enough for MLB to think it warranted a 30-game suspension.

    Charlie 2 hours 29 min ago view
  • I'd prefer they be flexible with the closing situation depending on matchups. You're not really adding a lefty reliever if you use him strictly as a closer.

    Charlie 2 hours 30 min ago view
  • Stockpiling young talent isn't only for trading for someone like Chapman though. Even with an elite closer winning the World Series is basically a crap shoot so the key is to get to the playoffs as much as possible and not just mortgage everything on one year. Once you get there an elite bullpen certainly helps but the playoffs can be won by one hitter or starting pitcher getting hot (Murphy, Molina, Baumgardner) and a closer might not be able to stop that.

    johann 2 hours 54 min ago view
  • I'm also not crazy about press convictions. As the police report noted, there were no marks on the lady in question. There's a TMZ link (of course) to her police pictures, as well.

    I think the only way this trade goes real bad is if Cubbery intervenes and Chapman is suddenly bad for some reason.

    Old and Blue 2 hours 57 min ago view
  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 4 hours 27 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 4 hours 35 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 4 hours 46 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 4 hours 48 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 5 hours 11 min ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 5 hours 11 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 5 hours 20 min ago view