Father's Day: Darren Baker asks the question...and Dusty has no answers

Roster Update: Angel Guzman to the DL with a right triceps strain, Kevin Hart called up from Iowa.


Happy Father's Day everyone.

I've mostly been shoulder shrugging since the story came out that Sammy Sosa was on the positive test list for PED's that the MLB Players Association didn't destroy. To me it was old news. After the "Steroid Era" cloud passes and everyone in it washs off the stink, I wonder what will be the impact on what baseball should consider one of it's most important assets, the kids who fall in love with the game because of their father's (or mom's, but today is father's day) love of the game.

On this father's day, one of the things I treasure most is that my son is a Cubs fan and a Baseball fan. So when I read this brief Fred Mitchell article in the Tribune, it made more impact on me than when the Sammy news was leaked in the NY Times.

"The worst part for me is that I don't know what to tell my son [Darren]," the Reds manager said after Saturday's Civil Rights Game luncheon at the Duke Energy Center. "He asks me, 'Dad, are there any good hitters not on something?' I just tell him that everyone is under suspicion. I will just be glad when it's all over."

From the previous era of baseball scandal, when gambling almost ruined the game, Shoeless Joe Jackson, supposedly was asked by  a young fan who's hero was involved in the throwing of the 1919 World Series, leading to the now infamous quote:  "say it ain't so, Joe."

So when Dusty Baker was asked the modern day version of this question, he answers with questions:

"Who knows if it's real or not," Baker said. "And if it is real, still, what do you say?"

Before Sosa, manager Baker's tenure in San Francisco was clouded by the most obvious player with body shape changes,  it seems that if he was paying attention, he should have had a clue as to what was going on with Sammy. 

Asked if he was aware of Sosa's alleged steroid use with the Cubs, Baker replied:

"I had no way of telling because I had never seen it. They asked me the same thing in San Francisco. I don't think any manager knows."

Tough Questions. Unsatisfying answers. It brings to mind the proverb attributed to the 3 wise monkeys, See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. From now on, I'll just file that proverb in the outhouse with Monkey see, Monkey do.

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Samardzija 8 IP, 0 ER, 6 K, 4 BB yesterday...Cub Carpenter 6 IP, 1 ER, 2BB, 3 K for Peoria

Angel Guzman finally makes it back to the DL (right triceps strain). Kevin Hart called up.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_relea...

SHIT! SHIT!

He is finally having his best MLB year, and he goes on the DL! UGH!!

Heal Fast, dude!

I don't think that's a big deal because it sounds like he basically pitched through it yesterday. While we were blowing our lead in the 7th, Len said he wasn't available due to some soreness, then he came in and pitched 2 innings later.

Especially going into AL ballparks, you'd like to have your bullpen at full strength, so I think this move makes a lot of sense if he was going to be down for a week or so anyways.

I hope so, WES.

"I had no way of telling because I had never seen it. They asked me the same thing in San Francisco. I don't think any manager knows."

Nice answer Dusty, it's pretty much a set answer for him.

Why do you burn out young arms?
Why can't you win with best team in league?
Why can't you control your players?

BTW - Lineups???

Dusty's no different than LaRussa in this regard - last time a reporter had the temerity to wonder aloud to LaRussa's face how he could have possibly missed McGuire's steroid use, he angrily walked away. They're not going to ever face up to their parts in the whole charade, we might as well get used to it.

Soriano Theriot Bradley Lee Soto Fox(3B) Fukudome Blanco Wells
v.
Carroll DeRosa Martinez Choo Peralta Valbuena Gimenez(1B) Francisco Sowers

Reed Johnson not playing vs lefty Sowers, his back "locked up" on him. He does have a history of lumbar (lower) back surgery in 2007, so it acts up on occaision

1 game out of 2nd place...still 2.5 back out of first.

Wow, Jake Fox apparently a baseball geek. I like it.

This is going to annoy me. Lou just said he was going to rest some people tomorrow. I really don't understand why you disturb things after winning 4 in a row. Ride it out, then rest some people. Blah.

On pregame he said probally soriano and theriot not starting monday.

who's gonna lead off? soto's ob% is up to .332 so it's a bit too high even though the power is starting to show. dlee's got the power to lead off, but his ob% is too high. should be a tough decision. =p

what about Reed Johnson?

low-ish ob% and a touch of power...but he does have a bad back slowing him down so yeah, he'd be an option...too bad it's not a leg injury or he'd be a no-doubter. hehe...

If I rember what Len said during the game correctly, Bradley wont be in the starting line-up either. Given Reed's injury and the benchings I am imaging the line-up will be:

Fuku/Fonty
Fonty/Fuku
Lee
Soto
Hoffpauir
Fox
Blanco
Miles

Hope Demp has no-hitter stuff or it gets rained out again.

i'm just glad it's a night game. i've only been able to catch bits/pieces of these day games lately.

First sweep in over a month ... it feels so good. Let's keep it going on this road trip now.

Angels with some serious cubbery on ESPN... load the bases, 0 out, Abreu, Hunter, Guerrero due up, Abreu grounds into a 1-2-3 DP and Hunter pops out on the infield. 0 runs. Unreal.

ESPN also let sarge jr. cut a promo with interviews of him and father talking baseball for a segment.

must suck to be shunned by the establishment for all that involvement with PEDs.

wait...

more info on...

Angel Guzman (would be out 5 days but with long stretch without days off they couldn't afford to be without a pitcher)

more on Reed Johnson's weak/week back

Z goes directly to Detroit, skips Atlanta... to get his beauty rest

Rothschild away for funeral of a cousin

and Dempster's baby daughter leaving the hospital tuesday.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/16331...

Sounds like a tough road a head for the Dempster family. Here's hoping their little baby is going to be alright.

So Aaron Poreda sees Frank Thomas (who is a broadcaster now, apparently) interviewing another player and says, "That's a big guy, he should be an athlete." LOL! Hilarious, yet it occurs to me that Poreda probably didn't grow up with Frank Thomas and I did. Thanks for making me feel old, pecker.

So Cowley confirmed it was Poreda?

Someone confirmed it, I don't know who it was.

I can't believe this team is 2.5 out. What a crappy division.

I can't believe this team is 2.5 out
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The division is worse than that, the Cubs are tied for first in the loss column. Stl has played 5 more games.

The league isn't so hot either, after the Dodgers...the Cubs are also tied for 1st in the loss column for the Wildcard.

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  • we might have seen another inning of lester out there if he didn't throw 30 pitches last inning because of a base throwing issue...on a day where he's very tuned in.

    i've accepted what's happening with lester, but turning a double play into 0 outs is noteworthy even if some people don't want to be reminded of it.

  • A lot of batters simply can't bunt is one problem.

  • I'm pretty sure there is not a single person ignoring it at this point In all of baseball and it's a thing everyone is talking about.

    That said he also managed to get out of a bases loaded, zero outs situation with no runs given up and that is something very few pitchers could do and it wasn't just because of a few balls called strikes. So....Let's not just talk about Lester when there are throwing issues because there has been a lot more good than bad just this game let alone this year.

  • there's nothing anyone can do about anything going on out there. i don't even post every one he fumbles into. i also post about HRs and other crap. it's happening, good or bad things are happening.

    this is an interesting thing to me. just because it's a negative thing doesn't make it "woah."

    we had 1000000000 posts about leadoff men and 2nd batters during the dusty years when everyone knew speed leads and contact-with-low-Ks hits 2nd. we all knew what's up. some people talked about it.

  • Have I mentioned how much I love TLS?

    Guess I should have waited to post that.

  • Ignore it? You talk about it all the time. I'm sure the rest of the board notices, but just doesn't feel the need to harp on it. It is not like we can do anything about it anyway.

  • that's an interesting leap.

    so, we ignore the thing that keeps happening and if one chooses to not ignore it then one obviously wants to replace him with dan harren.

    it's fair game. the guy, on multiple occasions, puts the team in 4+ out innings because a guy who throws a ball for a living can't throw to a base. it's not like this happened once or twice or three times or four times or...

  • There goes Ross' ASG prospects...

  • unique curiosity is a good description...

    he has a lot of 4-5 out innings. this is at least the 2nd time he's turned a double play ball into 0 outs just this year that i've noticed and he's got a slew of "4-out" innings under his belt, too.

    and 1.83 ERA

    Cubs should trade him, get a worse pitcher that loses games instead but can make a throw to 1b.

  • Agreed, but like with Garza, I am surprised that more managers don't try an exploit a clear weakness.

  • not sure either, but in most cases I imagine someone else can field it. And if you bunt it directly at him, he would have enough time to underhand toss it or just run it over?

    Today's bunt, he really, really didn't want to field it. Not sure if he lost it in his glove after that or just wasn't going to make the throw. It's not ideal obviously, yet still hasn't had any real impact on the team.

  • well, how long do keep pretending that a bunt hit well back to the pitcher that would be a double play for many pitchers isn't a "thing"? it's a story. it's not like it's a physical defect people are picking on.

    no one gave chuck knoblauch a pass when he lost the ability to throw a ball to 1st.

    it's a unique curiosity for a guy who throws a ball on a professional level for a living.

  • CB Bucknor behind the plate...he is and will continue to always be awful.

  • Not sure why teams don't bunt more often against him.

  • To be fair he also had a strike 3 called a ball.

  • Tomorrow's Sun-Times Headline after Lester's 1 ER, 10 K effort. "150M Lester Fails to Field Sac Bunt."