Father's Day: Darren Baker asks the question...and Dusty has no answers

Roster Update: Angel Guzman to the DL with a right triceps strain, Kevin Hart called up from Iowa.


Happy Father's Day everyone.

I've mostly been shoulder shrugging since the story came out that Sammy Sosa was on the positive test list for PED's that the MLB Players Association didn't destroy. To me it was old news. After the "Steroid Era" cloud passes and everyone in it washs off the stink, I wonder what will be the impact on what baseball should consider one of it's most important assets, the kids who fall in love with the game because of their father's (or mom's, but today is father's day) love of the game.

On this father's day, one of the things I treasure most is that my son is a Cubs fan and a Baseball fan. So when I read this brief Fred Mitchell article in the Tribune, it made more impact on me than when the Sammy news was leaked in the NY Times.

"The worst part for me is that I don't know what to tell my son [Darren]," the Reds manager said after Saturday's Civil Rights Game luncheon at the Duke Energy Center. "He asks me, 'Dad, are there any good hitters not on something?' I just tell him that everyone is under suspicion. I will just be glad when it's all over."

From the previous era of baseball scandal, when gambling almost ruined the game, Shoeless Joe Jackson, supposedly was asked by  a young fan who's hero was involved in the throwing of the 1919 World Series, leading to the now infamous quote:  "say it ain't so, Joe."

So when Dusty Baker was asked the modern day version of this question, he answers with questions:

"Who knows if it's real or not," Baker said. "And if it is real, still, what do you say?"

Before Sosa, manager Baker's tenure in San Francisco was clouded by the most obvious player with body shape changes,  it seems that if he was paying attention, he should have had a clue as to what was going on with Sammy. 

Asked if he was aware of Sosa's alleged steroid use with the Cubs, Baker replied:

"I had no way of telling because I had never seen it. They asked me the same thing in San Francisco. I don't think any manager knows."

Tough Questions. Unsatisfying answers. It brings to mind the proverb attributed to the 3 wise monkeys, See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. From now on, I'll just file that proverb in the outhouse with Monkey see, Monkey do.

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Samardzija 8 IP, 0 ER, 6 K, 4 BB yesterday...Cub Carpenter 6 IP, 1 ER, 2BB, 3 K for Peoria

Angel Guzman finally makes it back to the DL (right triceps strain). Kevin Hart called up.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_relea...

SHIT! SHIT!

He is finally having his best MLB year, and he goes on the DL! UGH!!

Heal Fast, dude!

I don't think that's a big deal because it sounds like he basically pitched through it yesterday. While we were blowing our lead in the 7th, Len said he wasn't available due to some soreness, then he came in and pitched 2 innings later.

Especially going into AL ballparks, you'd like to have your bullpen at full strength, so I think this move makes a lot of sense if he was going to be down for a week or so anyways.

I hope so, WES.

"I had no way of telling because I had never seen it. They asked me the same thing in San Francisco. I don't think any manager knows."

Nice answer Dusty, it's pretty much a set answer for him.

Why do you burn out young arms?
Why can't you win with best team in league?
Why can't you control your players?

BTW - Lineups???

Dusty's no different than LaRussa in this regard - last time a reporter had the temerity to wonder aloud to LaRussa's face how he could have possibly missed McGuire's steroid use, he angrily walked away. They're not going to ever face up to their parts in the whole charade, we might as well get used to it.

Soriano Theriot Bradley Lee Soto Fox(3B) Fukudome Blanco Wells
v.
Carroll DeRosa Martinez Choo Peralta Valbuena Gimenez(1B) Francisco Sowers

Reed Johnson not playing vs lefty Sowers, his back "locked up" on him. He does have a history of lumbar (lower) back surgery in 2007, so it acts up on occaision

1 game out of 2nd place...still 2.5 back out of first.

Wow, Jake Fox apparently a baseball geek. I like it.

This is going to annoy me. Lou just said he was going to rest some people tomorrow. I really don't understand why you disturb things after winning 4 in a row. Ride it out, then rest some people. Blah.

On pregame he said probally soriano and theriot not starting monday.

who's gonna lead off? soto's ob% is up to .332 so it's a bit too high even though the power is starting to show. dlee's got the power to lead off, but his ob% is too high. should be a tough decision. =p

what about Reed Johnson?

low-ish ob% and a touch of power...but he does have a bad back slowing him down so yeah, he'd be an option...too bad it's not a leg injury or he'd be a no-doubter. hehe...

If I rember what Len said during the game correctly, Bradley wont be in the starting line-up either. Given Reed's injury and the benchings I am imaging the line-up will be:

Fuku/Fonty
Fonty/Fuku
Lee
Soto
Hoffpauir
Fox
Blanco
Miles

Hope Demp has no-hitter stuff or it gets rained out again.

i'm just glad it's a night game. i've only been able to catch bits/pieces of these day games lately.

First sweep in over a month ... it feels so good. Let's keep it going on this road trip now.

Angels with some serious cubbery on ESPN... load the bases, 0 out, Abreu, Hunter, Guerrero due up, Abreu grounds into a 1-2-3 DP and Hunter pops out on the infield. 0 runs. Unreal.

ESPN also let sarge jr. cut a promo with interviews of him and father talking baseball for a segment.

must suck to be shunned by the establishment for all that involvement with PEDs.

wait...

more info on...

Angel Guzman (would be out 5 days but with long stretch without days off they couldn't afford to be without a pitcher)

more on Reed Johnson's weak/week back

Z goes directly to Detroit, skips Atlanta... to get his beauty rest

Rothschild away for funeral of a cousin

and Dempster's baby daughter leaving the hospital tuesday.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/16331...

Sounds like a tough road a head for the Dempster family. Here's hoping their little baby is going to be alright.

So Aaron Poreda sees Frank Thomas (who is a broadcaster now, apparently) interviewing another player and says, "That's a big guy, he should be an athlete." LOL! Hilarious, yet it occurs to me that Poreda probably didn't grow up with Frank Thomas and I did. Thanks for making me feel old, pecker.

So Cowley confirmed it was Poreda?

Someone confirmed it, I don't know who it was.

I can't believe this team is 2.5 out. What a crappy division.

I can't believe this team is 2.5 out
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The division is worse than that, the Cubs are tied for first in the loss column. Stl has played 5 more games.

The league isn't so hot either, after the Dodgers...the Cubs are also tied for 1st in the loss column for the Wildcard.

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  • ...and the Bryant RBI jinx continues in the 3rd....crap.

    billybucks 1 min 53 sec ago view
  • bryant's in the dugout filling a police report BECAUSE HE JUST GOT ROBBED.

    f'n cabrerra...

    crunch 39 min 22 sec ago view
  • chapman showing up and available tomorrow night.

    i'm sure he'll be a bit hit. hope he doesn't choke. dude has a rifle for an arm. he'll add a bit of punch to the bullpen.

    crunch 40 min 27 sec ago view
  • the 'crosstown classic' sure has lost it's magic with interleague. the excitement level is barely noticable...maybe it's a bit more hype in the city, itself.

    crunch 44 min 47 sec ago view
  • Well he didn't leave a mark so its not that bad.

    Fuck that.

    Facts:

    He choked her.

    Her brother tackled him to separate him.

    He cooled off by shooting his gun in the garage.

    I don't have to like him on the team I follow.

    And you are others are free to not give a shit about his personal misgivings if you so choose as well.

     

     

    Rob G. 1 hour 3 min ago view
  • Sure, no marks and some inconsistencies in the witness's statements. But firing your gun into garage wall immediately after an argument and punching out your car window is still threatening and out of control behavior. There was certainly enough for MLB to think it warranted a 30-game suspension.

    Charlie 2 hours 14 min ago view
  • I'd prefer they be flexible with the closing situation depending on matchups. You're not really adding a lefty reliever if you use him strictly as a closer.

    Charlie 2 hours 15 min ago view
  • Stockpiling young talent isn't only for trading for someone like Chapman though. Even with an elite closer winning the World Series is basically a crap shoot so the key is to get to the playoffs as much as possible and not just mortgage everything on one year. Once you get there an elite bullpen certainly helps but the playoffs can be won by one hitter or starting pitcher getting hot (Murphy, Molina, Baumgardner) and a closer might not be able to stop that.

    johann 2 hours 39 min ago view
  • I'm also not crazy about press convictions. As the police report noted, there were no marks on the lady in question. There's a TMZ link (of course) to her police pictures, as well.

    I think the only way this trade goes real bad is if Cubbery intervenes and Chapman is suddenly bad for some reason.

    Old and Blue 2 hours 43 min ago view
  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 4 hours 12 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 4 hours 20 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 4 hours 32 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 4 hours 33 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 4 hours 56 min ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 4 hours 56 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 5 hours 5 min ago view