Game 110 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (1 of 3)

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SP Jason Marquis SP Jeff Karstens

6-6, 4.69, 62 K, 44 BB, 111.1 IP (AAA) 6-4, 3.80, 55 K, 15 BB, 68.2 IP
       
LF Alfonso Soriano 2B Luis Rivas
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 1B *Doug Mientkiewicz
1B Derrek Lee CF *Nate McLouth
3B Aramis Ramirez C #Ryan Doumit
CF *Jim Edmonds 3B Andy LaRoche
C Geovany Soto RF *Brandon Moss
2B *Mike Fontenot LF Jason Michaels
SS Ronny Cedeno SS Jack Wilson
P *Jason Marquis P Jeff Karstens

The Cubs take a five game winning streak back to the Friendly Confines and a chance to extend their five game lead in the Central with 19 of 28 games at home through the month of August. Marquis goes against the third best offense in the NL, but that was before the trades of Jason Bay and Xavier Nady.

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"Ya know, Steve, 'Bucs' is 'Cubs' spelled backwards..."

/vivid memory of an extra innings Harry moment

Posted in other thread:

I actually really like this lineup

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Nice work, Chad.

I don't think that offense is the third best in the NL anymore.

Not sure that offense is the third best in AAA anymore.

Nice, Wes... and just for having said that, watch the Bucs put up about 9 or 10 today....
I also predict that this pitcher will absolutely mystify the Cubs hitters...

Interesting defense today. That'd be a pretty major pull shift against righties, fielding two CF and two SS instead of having a 2B and RF. It'll be interesting to see how this strategy works.

I am such an ass. Rob G. was obviously just in a hurry. But I'm fairly certain Mighty Mike is playing 2B not CF, and Fukie is playing RF not SS.

Bah...thnx for catching that.

I really Weeksed that one.

Weeksed (verb): to fuck up something routine.

synonyms: Brewered, Kendalled, Barretted, Brauned, Dustyed

LMAO!!!!!

"Weeksed"

HAHA!

You forgot "Ugglad."

I did indeed, although I think definition for Uggla'd is more:

to fuck up something vastly important for a large group of people that you're not a part of... 

with a 21.2 IP scoreless streak going since mid-June out of the bullpen in Daytona.

http://cubs.scout.com/2/774298.html

credits it with tweaking his slider and pitching more inside.

Ryan Dempster pushed the Brewers to the brink of being swept Wednesday night with another strong effort, setting the stage for Harden, who compared their performances to when he was younger with Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder and Barry Zito in Oakland."You kind of feed off each other. You see every starter going out there and doing really well, and you want to match them," Harden said. "I think it is contagious. ... It's a pretty amazing staff here."

MArquis?

C'mon - he is the architypal 5th starter (wh cannot be traded, evidently)

Nope, nothing left for Marquis to feed off of.

meh!

Has a starting pitcher ever been DFA'd in the middle of a start?

I think Russ Ortiz was actually mid-motion when they DFA'd him.

Was this mentioned already?

Wuertz pitched three innings in Colorado Springs Wednesday night and faced nine batters, striking out seven.

31 whiffs in the 12-inning game, btw.

I can't understand why, after all this time, MW can't get his major-league act together. Larry, any ideas?

Lee is flying into double plays now...will wonders never cease.

DP Lee

Chris Duncan has a herniated disc in his back now, not just a bulging one. Might need season-ending surgery.

marquis...Brenly says he has the plague, well actually it's the big innings that plague him.

nothing that a shot of penicillin won't fix. Yersinia Pestis (Y.Pestis)...might be a good nickname for Jason. Might be from those rats Ozzie found at Wrigley...are they carriers for the oriental rat flea?

http://www.insecta-inspecta.com/fleas/bdeath/bdeat...

is he getting hit hard or are these the seeing-eye variety?

A couple were cheap, but the last one was a line shot pulled to left.

only one hard hit ball so far.

today is a day where marquis has his sinker on and is getting unlucky.

... and the Cubs appear absolutely mystified by this pitcher... I feel like someone predicted this... Let's see if they are able to make adjustments the 2nd time through the order...

off subject, but anyone know where I can find Pie's batting average against lefties so far in the minors? He could actually help a major league team if he ever figures out how to hit lefties. thanks

try minorleaguesplits.com, altough I think milb.com has splits now as well.

 

Okay... maybe they'll catch on the third time around...

lot's of wasted chances.

I don't like the Cubs approach today. Guy they have never faced before, Soriano goes up hacking at the first 2 pitches of the game. Soto swinging at first pitches in each at bat, including after 2 walks.

Cubs will drop to 7-7 at Wrigley since the 14 game home winning streak if they don't turn this around late.

Me neither. That goose egg in the run column is not looking pretty.

Kind of sensed this one coming.

Rookie pitcher & post-Brewers letdown.

About what you would expect from Mrquis against a lousy lineup -- 6IP, 3R.

Let's move on.

No, dammit. Marquis gave them a chance to win, as did the relief pitchers. Don't give up! Score some runs and win this thing!

nada

That was pathetic! Bah!!

I blame Chad.

"I actually really like this lineup"

Posted in 2 separate threads!

What, the pitcher throwing a no-hitter didn't hear you the first time you mentioned it?

buzz kill.

http://cubs.scout.com/2/774466.html

Starting pitcher Julio Castillo, who is no longer even on the Chiefs active roster, leads the way with a 60-game suspension that extends into next year. He was also fined $1,000 as his court proceedings continue Friday in Ohio’s Montgomery County. Castillo was arrested and charged with felonious assault after a fan was hit with a thrown baseball during the brawl.

Outfielders Brandon Guyer and Cliff Andersen, infielder Jovan Rosa, pitchers Steve Vento and Audy Santana and catcher Mario Mercedes were each fined $150 and suspended for three games. The suspensions will start Friday night against South Bend and will be staggered over the next week.

Carmelo Martinez fined $1500 and suspended 20 games...

Geez! well, looks like they're goin' to be shorthanded for a bit!

I think that was the "pinch-hit" manager who got suspended.

I wish there was a stat for, "BAA for Never-Seen-Before-Pitcher", or "BAANSBP".

The Cubs, in my memory, have to be under .200

I rag on MArquis, but today he deserved much better.

The funny part (and by funny I mean makes you weep like a little girl) is that this seems to have been the case through all different players, different managers and different GMs. At home and on the road.

Letdown game for sure. They had all kinds of chances with 2 outs but didn't convert, grounded into double plays with 1 outs. That's really something that concerns me if they were to make the playoffs, it killed us last year vs the Diamondbacks.

Looking it up the Cubs were 17th in the majors in GIDP, thats alot better than I thought they would be.

Damn. Pittsburgh really Randall Simonized the Cubs today...

We got Perogi-ed.

Cards and Brewers up big in both their games...

Phillies coming back now 5-3 bottom 6.

Bah! throw away game. Let's kick the tar out of them on the next couple games.

Z going today, I expect a win. Maholm's not going to get out of jams like Karstens did. He's just not that type of pitcher.

Sidenote: I picked up this year's version of Power Pros. Totally awesome. They added an MLB Life Mode that acts just like Success Mode, except you play as a major league player, either one you create or one already in the game.

And the Cubs are pretty damn good in game. Kosuke has his bat flip when he hits the ball, Soto has some power, and Pie... well, Pie sucks. His hitting cursor is tiny. Minuscule. Ok, you can train him to be a better hitter, and he has blazing speed and great defense. But he's the guy who's in center in the default starting lineup.

Big Z, though. Wow. He has seven pitches. And all five of his breaking pitches are level 4. Pitches that a pitcher has besides his four seamer are rated 1-5 in effectiveness. I almost threw a no-hitter in the first game I pitched with him.

Man, I love this game.

NO - Z does not do today, according to Cubs.com probable pitchers. Where did you see that?

It is Lilly today, and "Z" tomorrow.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers...

Crap in a hat, I keep forgetting that Zambrano didn't start the first game back from the break.

Still, my point stands. :)

Maybe Luis Montanez will get a call-up with the Orioles soon. He plays for their AA Bowie Baysox.

8 RBI last night. Season totals:

440 ab, 146 h, 31 2b, 5 3b, 25 hr, 94 rbi, .332/.383/.595

Stat gazer.

Why is it okay to gaze at minor league stats but not at major league stats?

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  • Sorry if I made it sound like a Schwarber for Sale straight up deal was reasonable, obviously Cubs would need to give up more than that. You don't trade Sale unless you're rebuilding and if you're rebuilding you want more than one piece. Easily 3-4 pieces with Schwarber being the main one...but that type of an ace arm or All-star talent with a few years of control is the type of return the Cubs should look for if they move Schwarber. I don't think they'll move him until he's healthy though. TheJedi are pretty good at maximizing trade value.

    Rob G. 3 min 28 sec ago view
  • I think you're very much overvaluing Schwarber if you think he can fetch Sale by himself. An unproven rookie with demonstrable offensive flaws he hasn't had the chance to show he can overcome and with no defensive upside will never fetch an ace of the quality of Sale in today's market where pitchers are fetching insane prices, especially with Sale's team friendly contract. You'd for sure need to throw in a pitching prospect in return at least.

    johann 50 min 28 sec ago view
  • best relievers in baseball tend to not be the best relievers for very long though...

    also, when you start just trading away guys for marginal benefits, that window will shrink. The window is easily through 2021, just have to look how long Rizzo is signed for and how long they have rights to Bryant, Russell and so on down the line.

    Can't say I'm too worried about the SP, they've done nothing but land guys on the cheap and on the expensive since they've arrived. TheJedi will figure that out.

    Rob G. 1 hour 27 min ago view
  • Not sure I agree with this logic. The Cubs are one of the best teams in baseball, they have spent heavily on the team over the past couple of seasons, have more hitting prospects than they have places for them to play (and more on the way), a clear weakness in the bullpen, and have a 1.5 year window with Arrieta (to say nothing of the likely declines of Lester and Lackey).

    Unless you think (maybe even if you do think) Schwarber is the next coming of Babe Ruth, I would certainly consider trading him if it brought back a couple of the best relief pitchers in baseball.

    Rob Richardson 4 hours 9 min ago view
  • Miggy was going to sit anyway with Lester starting.

    In related news, do any of the Cubs pitchers want to throw to Contreras?

    Rob G. 4 hours 21 min ago view
  • Only Russell and Miggy failed to reach base yesterday. Both sit today.

    billybucks 4 hours 30 min ago view
  • Trading Schwarber actually makes a lot of sense because his actual position is currently being taken by Anthony Rizzo, unless they vote in the DH this offseason.

    Trading him for a reliever is never going to happen though. I don't think you can trade Schwarber unless you get a CF'er for a few years (presume Fowler finds his multi-year deal next offseson) or a couple of high end young starters...or an established starter...a good one like Chris Sale.

    Rob G. 4 hours 41 min ago view
  • I don't see what the Yanks have that the Cubs need.

    Ryno 4 hours 46 min ago view
  • peter gammons on MLB network pushing the yanks/schwarber angle...says insiders from the yanks say brian cashman highly covets him.

    unless that conversation starts with a.miller (2/18m left on contract) i dunno how you even start that conversation given the "not trash, but no stars" state of the yanks minor league system.

    they got corner OF'r aaron judge, C gary sanchez, RHP james kaprielian's questionable elbow, RHP domingo acevedo...all interesting, none expected to impact the game like schwarber's power potential.

    crunch 5 hours 19 min ago view
  • Zo, Heyward, KB, Riz, Contreras (LF), Baez (SS), Szczur (CF), Ross, Lester

    Cubster 5 hours 27 min ago view
  • damn. low sample size blah blah whatever, but that slash got sneaky good. 10 hits, 4 walks, 2hr, 1 double through 39 PA...nice

    crunch 5 hours 47 min ago view
  • Buddy Ryan takes his place alongside George Allen as the great Bear head coaches who never were.

    VirginiaPhil 8 hours 42 min ago view
  • Well, at least he can still hit: Jake slashing .294/.368/.868. Forget hitting 8th -- he should hit 6th.

    billybucks 9 hours 24 sec ago view
  • Curious to see today's lineup vs. a LHP: Ross needs to catch Lester, Joe likes Javy at 3B when Lester pitches. Heyward with back-to-back good games at the plate, and is actually hitting a little better against LHP (.247/.341) than RHP (.232/.321), although neither is much to write home about. But, tomorrow is an early day game, so some regulars will probably sit either today or tomorrow.

    Maybe Willson in LF, KB in RF and Almora in CF? If so, Albert Jr., assume every ball is yours.

    billybucks 9 hours 5 min ago view
  • "Pitching prospects not looking so hot"

    That reminds me that Lucas Giolito will start for the Nats tonight.

    VirginiaPhil 9 hours 8 min ago view
  • Well, there you go. Federowicz is one of the best at balls in the dirt.

    VirginiaPhil 9 hours 27 min ago view