Game 110 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (1 of 3)

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SP Jason Marquis SP Jeff Karstens

6-6, 4.69, 62 K, 44 BB, 111.1 IP (AAA) 6-4, 3.80, 55 K, 15 BB, 68.2 IP
       
LF Alfonso Soriano 2B Luis Rivas
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 1B *Doug Mientkiewicz
1B Derrek Lee CF *Nate McLouth
3B Aramis Ramirez C #Ryan Doumit
CF *Jim Edmonds 3B Andy LaRoche
C Geovany Soto RF *Brandon Moss
2B *Mike Fontenot LF Jason Michaels
SS Ronny Cedeno SS Jack Wilson
P *Jason Marquis P Jeff Karstens

The Cubs take a five game winning streak back to the Friendly Confines and a chance to extend their five game lead in the Central with 19 of 28 games at home through the month of August. Marquis goes against the third best offense in the NL, but that was before the trades of Jason Bay and Xavier Nady.

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"Ya know, Steve, 'Bucs' is 'Cubs' spelled backwards..."

/vivid memory of an extra innings Harry moment

Posted in other thread:

I actually really like this lineup

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Nice work, Chad.

I don't think that offense is the third best in the NL anymore.

Not sure that offense is the third best in AAA anymore.

Nice, Wes... and just for having said that, watch the Bucs put up about 9 or 10 today....
I also predict that this pitcher will absolutely mystify the Cubs hitters...

Interesting defense today. That'd be a pretty major pull shift against righties, fielding two CF and two SS instead of having a 2B and RF. It'll be interesting to see how this strategy works.

I am such an ass. Rob G. was obviously just in a hurry. But I'm fairly certain Mighty Mike is playing 2B not CF, and Fukie is playing RF not SS.

Bah...thnx for catching that.

I really Weeksed that one.

Weeksed (verb): to fuck up something routine.

synonyms: Brewered, Kendalled, Barretted, Brauned, Dustyed

LMAO!!!!!

"Weeksed"

HAHA!

You forgot "Ugglad."

I did indeed, although I think definition for Uggla'd is more:

to fuck up something vastly important for a large group of people that you're not a part of... 

with a 21.2 IP scoreless streak going since mid-June out of the bullpen in Daytona.

http://cubs.scout.com/2/774298.html

credits it with tweaking his slider and pitching more inside.

Ryan Dempster pushed the Brewers to the brink of being swept Wednesday night with another strong effort, setting the stage for Harden, who compared their performances to when he was younger with Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder and Barry Zito in Oakland."You kind of feed off each other. You see every starter going out there and doing really well, and you want to match them," Harden said. "I think it is contagious. ... It's a pretty amazing staff here."

MArquis?

C'mon - he is the architypal 5th starter (wh cannot be traded, evidently)

Nope, nothing left for Marquis to feed off of.

meh!

Has a starting pitcher ever been DFA'd in the middle of a start?

I think Russ Ortiz was actually mid-motion when they DFA'd him.

Was this mentioned already?

Wuertz pitched three innings in Colorado Springs Wednesday night and faced nine batters, striking out seven.

31 whiffs in the 12-inning game, btw.

I can't understand why, after all this time, MW can't get his major-league act together. Larry, any ideas?

Lee is flying into double plays now...will wonders never cease.

DP Lee

Chris Duncan has a herniated disc in his back now, not just a bulging one. Might need season-ending surgery.

marquis...Brenly says he has the plague, well actually it's the big innings that plague him.

nothing that a shot of penicillin won't fix. Yersinia Pestis (Y.Pestis)...might be a good nickname for Jason. Might be from those rats Ozzie found at Wrigley...are they carriers for the oriental rat flea?

http://www.insecta-inspecta.com/fleas/bdeath/bdeat...

is he getting hit hard or are these the seeing-eye variety?

A couple were cheap, but the last one was a line shot pulled to left.

only one hard hit ball so far.

today is a day where marquis has his sinker on and is getting unlucky.

... and the Cubs appear absolutely mystified by this pitcher... I feel like someone predicted this... Let's see if they are able to make adjustments the 2nd time through the order...

off subject, but anyone know where I can find Pie's batting average against lefties so far in the minors? He could actually help a major league team if he ever figures out how to hit lefties. thanks

try minorleaguesplits.com, altough I think milb.com has splits now as well.

 

Okay... maybe they'll catch on the third time around...

lot's of wasted chances.

I don't like the Cubs approach today. Guy they have never faced before, Soriano goes up hacking at the first 2 pitches of the game. Soto swinging at first pitches in each at bat, including after 2 walks.

Cubs will drop to 7-7 at Wrigley since the 14 game home winning streak if they don't turn this around late.

Me neither. That goose egg in the run column is not looking pretty.

Kind of sensed this one coming.

Rookie pitcher & post-Brewers letdown.

About what you would expect from Mrquis against a lousy lineup -- 6IP, 3R.

Let's move on.

No, dammit. Marquis gave them a chance to win, as did the relief pitchers. Don't give up! Score some runs and win this thing!

nada

That was pathetic! Bah!!

I blame Chad.

"I actually really like this lineup"

Posted in 2 separate threads!

What, the pitcher throwing a no-hitter didn't hear you the first time you mentioned it?

buzz kill.

http://cubs.scout.com/2/774466.html

Starting pitcher Julio Castillo, who is no longer even on the Chiefs active roster, leads the way with a 60-game suspension that extends into next year. He was also fined $1,000 as his court proceedings continue Friday in Ohio’s Montgomery County. Castillo was arrested and charged with felonious assault after a fan was hit with a thrown baseball during the brawl.

Outfielders Brandon Guyer and Cliff Andersen, infielder Jovan Rosa, pitchers Steve Vento and Audy Santana and catcher Mario Mercedes were each fined $150 and suspended for three games. The suspensions will start Friday night against South Bend and will be staggered over the next week.

Carmelo Martinez fined $1500 and suspended 20 games...

Geez! well, looks like they're goin' to be shorthanded for a bit!

I think that was the "pinch-hit" manager who got suspended.

I wish there was a stat for, "BAA for Never-Seen-Before-Pitcher", or "BAANSBP".

The Cubs, in my memory, have to be under .200

I rag on MArquis, but today he deserved much better.

The funny part (and by funny I mean makes you weep like a little girl) is that this seems to have been the case through all different players, different managers and different GMs. At home and on the road.

Letdown game for sure. They had all kinds of chances with 2 outs but didn't convert, grounded into double plays with 1 outs. That's really something that concerns me if they were to make the playoffs, it killed us last year vs the Diamondbacks.

Looking it up the Cubs were 17th in the majors in GIDP, thats alot better than I thought they would be.

Damn. Pittsburgh really Randall Simonized the Cubs today...

We got Perogi-ed.

Cards and Brewers up big in both their games...

Phillies coming back now 5-3 bottom 6.

Bah! throw away game. Let's kick the tar out of them on the next couple games.

Z going today, I expect a win. Maholm's not going to get out of jams like Karstens did. He's just not that type of pitcher.

Sidenote: I picked up this year's version of Power Pros. Totally awesome. They added an MLB Life Mode that acts just like Success Mode, except you play as a major league player, either one you create or one already in the game.

And the Cubs are pretty damn good in game. Kosuke has his bat flip when he hits the ball, Soto has some power, and Pie... well, Pie sucks. His hitting cursor is tiny. Minuscule. Ok, you can train him to be a better hitter, and he has blazing speed and great defense. But he's the guy who's in center in the default starting lineup.

Big Z, though. Wow. He has seven pitches. And all five of his breaking pitches are level 4. Pitches that a pitcher has besides his four seamer are rated 1-5 in effectiveness. I almost threw a no-hitter in the first game I pitched with him.

Man, I love this game.

NO - Z does not do today, according to Cubs.com probable pitchers. Where did you see that?

It is Lilly today, and "Z" tomorrow.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers...

Crap in a hat, I keep forgetting that Zambrano didn't start the first game back from the break.

Still, my point stands. :)

Maybe Luis Montanez will get a call-up with the Orioles soon. He plays for their AA Bowie Baysox.

8 RBI last night. Season totals:

440 ab, 146 h, 31 2b, 5 3b, 25 hr, 94 rbi, .332/.383/.595

Stat gazer.

Why is it okay to gaze at minor league stats but not at major league stats?

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  • he subscribes to my twitter, he's beyond TCR. #yolo #swag

    crunch 35 min 12 sec ago view
  • Whoops. Maddon must have been reading TCR (for his daily crunch) and got confused.

    CTSteve 37 min 39 sec ago view
  • kuhl is a righty, not a lefty.

    i think maddon might think kuhl is a lefty, too. i wonder what the reasoning is for baez leading off vs a rightie.

    crunch 1 hour 18 min ago view
  • "trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo."

    that's from my 1st post. there's no suck involved in that. maybe with a few less posts about bullshit that point would have jumped out more.

    crunch 2 hours 5 min ago view
  • crunch - you do know that, taking defense out of the equation, Trout has led the AL in wRC+ each of those years, right?

    And, if you want to complain about position adjustment (which would be serious #crunchsplaining), he's been in the top 3 in the AL in WC (not park/league/position adjusted). And the only players ahead of him (if there were any players ahead of him) in any of those years have been DHs or 1B that play lousy defense.

    But sure - Trout sucks (or at least isn't as good as WAR says). Because it factors in defense and position.

    big_lowitzki 3 hours 10 min ago view
  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 3 hours 55 min ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 5 hours 42 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 5 hours 43 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 5 hours 50 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 6 hours 26 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 6 hours 27 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 6 hours 29 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 6 hours 33 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 6 hours 33 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 6 hours 37 min ago view
  • i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.

    the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some people...to me...i'm some people...hurrah.

    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 6 hours 50 min ago view