Game 110 Thread / Pirates @ Cubs (1 of 3)

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SP Jason Marquis SP Jeff Karstens

6-6, 4.69, 62 K, 44 BB, 111.1 IP (AAA) 6-4, 3.80, 55 K, 15 BB, 68.2 IP
       
LF Alfonso Soriano 2B Luis Rivas
RF *Kosuke Fukudome 1B *Doug Mientkiewicz
1B Derrek Lee CF *Nate McLouth
3B Aramis Ramirez C #Ryan Doumit
CF *Jim Edmonds 3B Andy LaRoche
C Geovany Soto RF *Brandon Moss
2B *Mike Fontenot LF Jason Michaels
SS Ronny Cedeno SS Jack Wilson
P *Jason Marquis P Jeff Karstens

The Cubs take a five game winning streak back to the Friendly Confines and a chance to extend their five game lead in the Central with 19 of 28 games at home through the month of August. Marquis goes against the third best offense in the NL, but that was before the trades of Jason Bay and Xavier Nady.

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"Ya know, Steve, 'Bucs' is 'Cubs' spelled backwards..."

/vivid memory of an extra innings Harry moment

Posted in other thread:

I actually really like this lineup

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Nice work, Chad.

I don't think that offense is the third best in the NL anymore.

Not sure that offense is the third best in AAA anymore.

Nice, Wes... and just for having said that, watch the Bucs put up about 9 or 10 today....
I also predict that this pitcher will absolutely mystify the Cubs hitters...

Interesting defense today. That'd be a pretty major pull shift against righties, fielding two CF and two SS instead of having a 2B and RF. It'll be interesting to see how this strategy works.

I am such an ass. Rob G. was obviously just in a hurry. But I'm fairly certain Mighty Mike is playing 2B not CF, and Fukie is playing RF not SS.

Bah...thnx for catching that.

I really Weeksed that one.

Weeksed (verb): to fuck up something routine.

synonyms: Brewered, Kendalled, Barretted, Brauned, Dustyed

LMAO!!!!!

"Weeksed"

HAHA!

You forgot "Ugglad."

I did indeed, although I think definition for Uggla'd is more:

to fuck up something vastly important for a large group of people that you're not a part of... 

with a 21.2 IP scoreless streak going since mid-June out of the bullpen in Daytona.

http://cubs.scout.com/2/774298.html

credits it with tweaking his slider and pitching more inside.

Ryan Dempster pushed the Brewers to the brink of being swept Wednesday night with another strong effort, setting the stage for Harden, who compared their performances to when he was younger with Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder and Barry Zito in Oakland."You kind of feed off each other. You see every starter going out there and doing really well, and you want to match them," Harden said. "I think it is contagious. ... It's a pretty amazing staff here."

MArquis?

C'mon - he is the architypal 5th starter (wh cannot be traded, evidently)

Nope, nothing left for Marquis to feed off of.

meh!

Has a starting pitcher ever been DFA'd in the middle of a start?

I think Russ Ortiz was actually mid-motion when they DFA'd him.

Was this mentioned already?

Wuertz pitched three innings in Colorado Springs Wednesday night and faced nine batters, striking out seven.

31 whiffs in the 12-inning game, btw.

I can't understand why, after all this time, MW can't get his major-league act together. Larry, any ideas?

Lee is flying into double plays now...will wonders never cease.

DP Lee

Chris Duncan has a herniated disc in his back now, not just a bulging one. Might need season-ending surgery.

marquis...Brenly says he has the plague, well actually it's the big innings that plague him.

nothing that a shot of penicillin won't fix. Yersinia Pestis (Y.Pestis)...might be a good nickname for Jason. Might be from those rats Ozzie found at Wrigley...are they carriers for the oriental rat flea?

http://www.insecta-inspecta.com/fleas/bdeath/bdeat...

is he getting hit hard or are these the seeing-eye variety?

A couple were cheap, but the last one was a line shot pulled to left.

only one hard hit ball so far.

today is a day where marquis has his sinker on and is getting unlucky.

... and the Cubs appear absolutely mystified by this pitcher... I feel like someone predicted this... Let's see if they are able to make adjustments the 2nd time through the order...

off subject, but anyone know where I can find Pie's batting average against lefties so far in the minors? He could actually help a major league team if he ever figures out how to hit lefties. thanks

try minorleaguesplits.com, altough I think milb.com has splits now as well.

 

Okay... maybe they'll catch on the third time around...

lot's of wasted chances.

I don't like the Cubs approach today. Guy they have never faced before, Soriano goes up hacking at the first 2 pitches of the game. Soto swinging at first pitches in each at bat, including after 2 walks.

Cubs will drop to 7-7 at Wrigley since the 14 game home winning streak if they don't turn this around late.

Me neither. That goose egg in the run column is not looking pretty.

Kind of sensed this one coming.

Rookie pitcher & post-Brewers letdown.

About what you would expect from Mrquis against a lousy lineup -- 6IP, 3R.

Let's move on.

No, dammit. Marquis gave them a chance to win, as did the relief pitchers. Don't give up! Score some runs and win this thing!

nada

That was pathetic! Bah!!

I blame Chad.

"I actually really like this lineup"

Posted in 2 separate threads!

What, the pitcher throwing a no-hitter didn't hear you the first time you mentioned it?

buzz kill.

http://cubs.scout.com/2/774466.html

Starting pitcher Julio Castillo, who is no longer even on the Chiefs active roster, leads the way with a 60-game suspension that extends into next year. He was also fined $1,000 as his court proceedings continue Friday in Ohio’s Montgomery County. Castillo was arrested and charged with felonious assault after a fan was hit with a thrown baseball during the brawl.

Outfielders Brandon Guyer and Cliff Andersen, infielder Jovan Rosa, pitchers Steve Vento and Audy Santana and catcher Mario Mercedes were each fined $150 and suspended for three games. The suspensions will start Friday night against South Bend and will be staggered over the next week.

Carmelo Martinez fined $1500 and suspended 20 games...

Geez! well, looks like they're goin' to be shorthanded for a bit!

I think that was the "pinch-hit" manager who got suspended.

I wish there was a stat for, "BAA for Never-Seen-Before-Pitcher", or "BAANSBP".

The Cubs, in my memory, have to be under .200

I rag on MArquis, but today he deserved much better.

The funny part (and by funny I mean makes you weep like a little girl) is that this seems to have been the case through all different players, different managers and different GMs. At home and on the road.

Letdown game for sure. They had all kinds of chances with 2 outs but didn't convert, grounded into double plays with 1 outs. That's really something that concerns me if they were to make the playoffs, it killed us last year vs the Diamondbacks.

Looking it up the Cubs were 17th in the majors in GIDP, thats alot better than I thought they would be.

Damn. Pittsburgh really Randall Simonized the Cubs today...

We got Perogi-ed.

Cards and Brewers up big in both their games...

Phillies coming back now 5-3 bottom 6.

Bah! throw away game. Let's kick the tar out of them on the next couple games.

Z going today, I expect a win. Maholm's not going to get out of jams like Karstens did. He's just not that type of pitcher.

Sidenote: I picked up this year's version of Power Pros. Totally awesome. They added an MLB Life Mode that acts just like Success Mode, except you play as a major league player, either one you create or one already in the game.

And the Cubs are pretty damn good in game. Kosuke has his bat flip when he hits the ball, Soto has some power, and Pie... well, Pie sucks. His hitting cursor is tiny. Minuscule. Ok, you can train him to be a better hitter, and he has blazing speed and great defense. But he's the guy who's in center in the default starting lineup.

Big Z, though. Wow. He has seven pitches. And all five of his breaking pitches are level 4. Pitches that a pitcher has besides his four seamer are rated 1-5 in effectiveness. I almost threw a no-hitter in the first game I pitched with him.

Man, I love this game.

NO - Z does not do today, according to Cubs.com probable pitchers. Where did you see that?

It is Lilly today, and "Z" tomorrow.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers...

Crap in a hat, I keep forgetting that Zambrano didn't start the first game back from the break.

Still, my point stands. :)

Maybe Luis Montanez will get a call-up with the Orioles soon. He plays for their AA Bowie Baysox.

8 RBI last night. Season totals:

440 ab, 146 h, 31 2b, 5 3b, 25 hr, 94 rbi, .332/.383/.595

Stat gazer.

Why is it okay to gaze at minor league stats but not at major league stats?

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  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 1 hour 4 min ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 1 hour 12 min ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 1 hour 24 min ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 1 hour 26 min ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 1 hour 48 min ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 1 hour 48 min ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 1 hour 57 min ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 17 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 2 hours 48 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 2 hours 51 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 54 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 15 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 3 hours 17 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 3 hours 20 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 3 hours 23 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 3 hours 24 min ago view