Game 113 Thread / Astros @ Cubs (1 of 3)

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SP Ryan Dempster SP Brian Moehler

12-4, 2.90, 126 K, 58 BB, 145.2 IP

6-4, 4.23, 50 K, 26 BB, 93.2 IP
LF Alfonso Soriano 2B #Kaz Matsui
2B *Mike Fontenot SS Miguel Tejada
1B *Daryle Ward 1B #Lance Berkman
3B Aramis Ramirez LF Carlos Lee
CF *Jim Edmonds RF Hunter Pence
C Geovany Soto 3B Ty Wigginton
RF *Kosuke Fukudome CF *Darin Erstad
SS Ronny Cedeno C Humberto Quintero
P Ryan Dempster P Brian Moehler

No time for love today, Dr. Jones, but if you see Geovany Soto visit the mound, know that he is just mocking you...the television viewer.


the one they call Crunch

no you dont.

I am here to formally let you know of your nomination for our Grand Tournament of Douche

for the actions of:

1. Acting as a self appointed PC morality officer
2. Threatening to mess with somebody's job like its any of your fucking business
3. Bragging about said cowardly actions
4. General Douchebaggery

Good luck in the tourney, with your pedigree I'm sure you will go far

yes, you made a big scene on the internet.

from now on just say it the first time and save yourself some internet butt-hurt.

all 1/2 dozen of your bitter internet "fans" have fun pretending this matters.

and what's cowardly about putting the fear of God into someone so badly they start madly deleting racist comments from their blog? i'm a f'n hero.




there is no parade for that kind of faggatronics the gays dont even want you in their parade when you stoop that low

nobody ever appointed you to be the arbiter of what is or isnt allowed on the internet that kind of self delusion is usually reserved for Yello, and further going out of your way to mess with somebodys job just shows what a piece of shit you really are



i will not- until you contact my employer or until Rob G tells me that this isnt a baseball related topic and that I should donate money to keep this place open

Go Fuck Yourself
We don't want what you've got

if i knew who the fuck you were I might give a shit what you say

now be quiet why the adults are talking



Wait crunch, I know what he needs...


dont make me unleash the gorgatron

congratulations on having this name registerd for almost 3 hours now and already annoying everyone. Seriously, all of this contributes nothing to the discussion.

He has only been here for 3 hours. Many people here have been around for years and have yet to contribute anything

hey, please stop calling crunch a self appointed douchebag. for the record all of us regulars here on tcr appointed him. he is our douchebag and only we are allowed to call him out. we love you crunch, you ole douchebag!

It doesn't appear you give a shit what anybody says. You're making quite a leap to call yourself an adult, what with the productive work you're doing promoting a douchebag-off. I'm sure your folks are proud.
Go waste your time somewhere else. We all know how tough you are now. Just don't type anything else and hurt our feelings.
Yes, it's the internet. No, we can't stop you. Do what you will.

Hey asshole, go crawl back into your hole. We don't care about your ego issues.

since hobart came up with such an original comeback I just might listen to him

wait...even less people know who the fuck Hobart Mike is than Jumbo

game on Hobart, game on

Oh i get it. Nobody understands what a douchebag is so you're doing us a public service by showing us what one is. Thanks man! We needed that as badly as hemorrhoids after an eating binge.

Hmmm... and people know who you are?

I know... the six people who comment over at ACB know you - congrats on that though.

And now you have had your 15 minutes of TCR game... now go away.

I love how this guy's argument centers around how many people know who you are, when we all use pseudonymns specifically so that people don't know who we are.

But if he's referring to gaining some sort of fame around Cub-related blog circles, I'll pass. I'd like to think the TCR community would rather talk about baseball than count the number of "lulz" we get or whatever it is trolls like dylanj use to keep score on how cool they are amongst the other assfucks who actually give a shit about that kind of thing.

Reason 1b why this is the only Cubs board I visit. (1a being jokes about Johan's mom, of course)

I don't care who 'knows' me, unlike you. Again, take your ego back to wherever you need to stroke it. We don't care.

*yawn* Get over yourself already.

I have to come out of lurkhood here and say I have no idea who dylanj is and don't care to know.

But one breif message. Shut the fuck up you dumb ass mother fucker. And go back to what ever dumb ass, piece of shit, fucking, irrelevant hole you come out of.

Thanks and have a great day.


Definitely a finalist for comment of the year.

Even Ozzie Guillen thinks that's pithy. :-)

so to recap- you dont care yet you have a "breif" message (I'm assuming you just rushed typing in your fury and dont actually think thats how the word is spelled)

it KINDA seems like you care alot Chris- do please dont type anything else because you cant spell and dropping as many swears as possible doesnt help disprove the allegations that you are in fact retarded

You smell like bigotry. Ew.

you smell like Chris and his dried cum but I wasnt going to point fingers


I actually wasn't kidding, though. You're really being a bigot.

I'm not actually allowing someone to cum on my face from across the country, if such an absurdity were even possible.

because I totally thought you were

and if you think im being a bigot maybe you and crunch can contact my boss and try and get me fired?

do you really want to taunt me?

i mean, you guys have families and stuff. remember...i'm a douche.

now leave. geez. go be with your families. you don't want any part of a pissing match. it's just not worth it.

you shouldn't troll where people don't want you to nor care who you are, who your friends are, or what impact they may have on the online or real world. it's just stupid. i know i don't care about any of you. *shrug*

go play elsewhere.

i will taunt you all day long until Rob G bans me. And then I will make a nice donation so this blog can stay open a few more days and just come back

and if you want my work email just ask, my boss would get a bigger kick making fun of your bitch ass than I am. Oh and my wife thinks your a fucking pussy as well so calling her wont work either

(waits for some SACR poster to make a comment about said wife)

maybe im not going to screw with you...maybe i'll screw with your friends.

you don't make the rules here. =p

silly internet dweller. game on.

ok crunchy- your move- maybe you will find yourself in one of these before too long

You're still threatening people on the internet by contacting employers, wives, and friends? Is that your thing? Seriously? An adult who tells on others. Priceless.

actually, i just scared you into actually showing up here.

this is more of me screwing with you.

been reading the thread on your blog.

there's 100 ways i could play you.

don't be threatened, maaaaaaaang.

my thing is making you guys sweat cuz i can, i guess.

who called who out? :)

seriously...go play elsewhere. you suck at this game.

btw, this doesn't make me cool. it just makes you stupid. this is nothing to me but a bunch of text on the screen. i'm not the one who goes around acting like the jackass of the internet and thinks they can do whatever they want without someone else doing whatever they want back.

it's a game. you got played.

welcome back, btw.

Crunch, you do realize that anything you can do, i can do. The difference between us is that I'm not a cocksucker who thinks telling on someone is something to be proud of. I'll give you my email, my employer, and anything else you want. If that's what makes you feel big and proud, then I'd be glad to contribute. Especially because the laughs I'd get from it would be well worth it.

Not sure how "I got played" but I'm pretty sure you don't know what the fuck you're talking about anyway.

no, you cant.

see, i know personal stuff about don't know anything about me.

besides all that, NONE OF THIS MATTERS.

i did the above to get a rise out of you when your mouthy friend assumed he cashed a check he couldn't cash and reported back to you on your blog (which ive been folllowing with great amusement) and low and you are. :D

and now you're ranting like a lunatic.


now take a deep breath...realize this doesn't mean anything...and then get on with your online life.

me and you...there is no me and you. at least you know how you got here now, though.


Interesting. You make threats with regularity and then when people call you out on those, you pretend you didn't mean it. So sometimes you're just douchebag and other times you're just a coward? Good to know.



BTW... We don't talk about wives around here. We talk about moms.

And Sisters

On my keyboard there is a key right next to the enter button that does this '. Most people use this key betwixt the "I" (notice the clever use of capitilization) and the "m" when typing "I'm."

Just thought I would try and help you out a bit.

you want to try and use the spelling/capitilzation approach i already called dips so you need a new form of attack friend

1. We are not really friends, but thanks anyway.
2. I believe that it is known as "dibs," not dips.
3. Said ownership is in forfeit if the owner displays an astonishing inability to make use of said "dips."
4. How drunk are you?


Official scoring show that so far maddog/dylanj is in the lead but real fans haven't given up on Navigator having a strong finish. Excited fans have gotten on their feet. Who will be the world's biggest internet prick? The intarweb holds its breath in anticipation!

sorry crunch won that title years ago when he appointed himself the political correctness officer of the interweb

Comedy gold!

Wow, I actually read through all of this. I actually feel resmarted after reading it all. Thank you.

Does anyone actually think they're going to win this 'argument'?

there's no arguement...just some troll trying to scare up some comments to share with his 2-3 buddies that find it funny.

it's no big deal unless someone goes out of their way to make it a big deal.


We are all amazed at the stunning gaps in your logic, but here goes on a few...

1. Allegations of retardation have been leveled by whom, and how often?
2. Said allegations would be moot in the face of his abilites to type.
3. Your knowledge of the scent of Chris' dried cum is curious.
4. I, for one, do not think that Chris would allow you the opportunity to smell his dried cum.

Please just go away. You are a sad, strange, little man.


"it KINDA seems like you care alot Chris- do please dont type anything else because you cant spell and dropping as many swears as possible doesnt help disprove the allegations that you are in fact retarded"

There's five spelling errors, three usages errors and three punctuation errors in that 'sentence'. Also, no one has made an allegation that he was retarded, so there's also what I think is properly known as a 'crackhead' error.

If one typo makes you a retard, I guess dylanj, by his own standard, is around amoeba level intelligent. He seems to even have asexually reproduced a clone named 'Maddog', so maybe this amoeba theory has some validity.


anyway...back to baseball.
through the first 2+ innings, Cubs have swung at 15 of 19 pitches so far, taking exactly 1 called strike. Team seems in a hurry to get to bed tonight

While I'm at it:
Fuck you ESPN
TV Guide says it's on ESPN says it's on ESPN
ESPN had a fan vote that resulted in the Yankee game being on and not the Cubs

Worst part - I tuned in a 7 for a pregame show that welcomed me as a Cub fan. Then the Brett Favre horse shit, then other news, no Cubs - but wait - a Cubs update on the sidebar. So I say, Fuck You ESPN

Where are you watching? Game is on ESPN here in LA.

Usually we get Chicago games and we never get blacked out. gameday has gone to hell since all star break...
I wonder what happens to make it so inconsistent.

Yeah it has gone to shit lately. Once an at-bat finishes it won't show it on the play by play. I have to toggle to a different inning and then back and then it shows up. Seems like issues that should be ironed this long into its existence.

This whole not scoring against Brian Moehler has to end now. This is getting old.

Rain delay?

rain delay.

Just now, Shoved Parra down on the Milwaukee Brewers bench


not good, we know what happens after that....someone is traded to the padres and they make a huge run in Sept.

I took a picture of it, if anyone cares.


Sorry, I tried and got a message from TCR that my access is denied.

Here goes, one more try.

Parra is the guy on the left who looks like he's sitting down. He was shoved down for the second time by Fielder on the right who's about to be restrained.

how was the sauteed chicken?



It looks like you've got competition in trollhood tonight.

Best of luck to you. He's got intensity but you've been a jackass for a really long time.

What the hell brought that on? Psychosis?

Ummm... what brought that on?

Didn't he say? You know... something about being a jackass for a long time?

What are you talking about?

in your image you shared there's a browser window in your taskbar that mentions a chicken recipe.

Was it Cecil fielder?

I will refer you to the Yost incident last year. Didn't work out so well for them.


The Prince musta has some bad fruit or veggies for din-din

or maybe it's his undies that are a bit too tight

Cordero save 22, Reds 6/Brewers 3....FINAL

So... speaking of baseball... what happened on Kosuke's error in the first?

He probably didn't have a shot to get him, so he should have just thrown to second. But he tried to do his patented scoop and throw and just never got his shoulder turned, so the ball sailed up the third base line and high, into the stands.

Also, Dempster didn't back up the throw, which cost them a base.

Got out of it, though.

Hard to believe htey will play again tonight...the storms that just rolled through here (I live in Lincoln Park)were amazing -- 60+ mph winds, tons of lighting and about an inch of rain.

Play Ball!

game cancelled?


nevermind...its just MLB-EI being weird.

from BJ's 6/A's 1

Sean Gallagher struggled with his control in the series opener, as two hit batsmen and a wild pitch accounted for three Blue Jays runs.

SG's line:

3.0 IP/H4/R5/ER4/BB4/K4/HR0/ERA 4.39/ Loss 4-5

Gallagher only had 22 walks in 58 IP with the Cubs, has 19 in 25 IP for Oakland

other than that's not very good, I wonder why that happens...I'll blame it on the DH, or the mound in Oakland, or the pitching coach or Michael Barrett.

found this on a brewers blog:

Saw it on the feed
The Reds broadcast had it live—Parra and Fielder walking down the dugout side by side, obviously disgruntled with each other. Parra said something, whipped his jacket (I think?) in Prince’s direction, Prince flipped out and shoved him right onto the bench hard, then a bunch of dudes stepped in between to break it up.

Seeya, Parra. It doesn't matter if you were wrong or right -- you won't be a Brewer long.

You mean "Sweet Swinging" Manny Parra? Can he play CF? He sure looked like he could rake against us.

Pie not in the Iowa lineup again -- any word on the severity of his injury?

the mlb gameday has 1:24 worth of the Parra-Fielder scuffle

it's the 4th video clip on that link

Umm... so the announcer talked about the Brewers were coming unglued... and it started with the 4 game sweep by the Mets in Milwaukee.


it's those dopey Cincy was Thom B.

they refuse to acknowledge the existence of a Chicago NL franchise, must have a thought process like this: Brewers just lost 4 home games to Gotham City from that Batman Dark Knight movie...hence, the Mets.

Brewers @ Mets April 11 (L 2-4), 12th (W 5-3) and 13th (W 9-7)

...the Brewers play the Mets in Milwaukee Sept 1-3.

Cubster: I've got VEGETABLES on my FINGERS

Did Ringo shout that at some later point in the recording of Helter Skelter?

and I was listening to his dad (marty) on XM earlier...spent about 3 innings discussing the physics of cow tipping.

scintillating radio

oh, and they gave a wilkipedia reference

Did Ringo shout that at some later point in the recording of Helter Skelter?
Nope. That's a Prince Fielder agonal scream after bitch slapping Manny Parra.

the inside wrigley field webcam has the tarp off (except the pitchers mound and home plate) and the grounds crew putting diamond dry/kitty litter on the field

wgn radio still doing the taped extension 720/Milt Rosenberg show...

Chad Gaudin in the bullpen getting ready to warm up

If this game continues at the very least the rain got rid of what's-his-face pitcher we couldn't seem to touch. Time for a big comeback.

game resumed

top 6:

Gaudin pitching:

CLee K
Pence P4
Wigginton BB
Erstad FC 6U

rain delay must have been 2hrs around 40 min (don't have the exact time)

Tim Burdyk on for the strohs

cryptic scrappy CF reference?

this game needs more recent-johnson-style scrap.

reed should be good for a 500ft. game winning homer as the skies open up with golf-ball sized hail.

LaTroy Hawkins time

Lance Berkman took off his gold necklace because he was afraid of Thor's Hammer. Wussbutt.

That said, it does sound like there is lots of activity in the skies.

Berkman just ran off the field because of the thunder. Hilarious.

Delay #2, commence.

Yeah... well, it does look like that one hit just outside of the Friendly Confines. Sheesh.

Still hilarious though.

rain delay #2, they got the tarp on due to lightning/thunder that had Berkman running off the field with the camera on Johnson pointing at Berkman while talking to DLee after Berkman jumped; quite the crashing thunder/light show before the rain actually restarted.

vs. Hawkins
one out (soriano K'd on a neck high fastball)
fontenot up with an 0-1 count...


I don't think any of the above conversation makes either side look very good. Although if there was truly racist crap on that site then Crunch has every right to let everyone know about it. Writing stupid crap behind anonymous handles is a childish way to go.

By the way, I came upon this blog which is so not me:

Kind of odd to see more then one Johann blogging on the Internet. He's more conservative then me though. And he hasn't done Carlos' mom.

Johann's mom did DylanJ.

No way. She doesn't have much discretion, but I can't see her going inter-species.

hmmmmmmmmmmm so what do you guys think about
manny in dodger blue he had a big weekend?

speaking of manny (trillo) wheres he been ?

how bout a fire jim hendry for old times sake

Well, Manny in Dodger Blue doesn't help the Dodgers much, since they are now benching Ethier in favor of Pierre. I remember when Torre turned down the big contract extension from the Yankees and everyone was saying what a great manager he was. I don't know if he's any better than Dusty. There's certain a lot of evidence to point to the fact that he's not.

Haven't heard from Manny since I've been back. I think he doesn't like it when the Cubs are winning. The Cubs got shut-out last night, because of that crappy team that Hendry put together. Starting Dempster in a game that we clearly needed to win, can't be Lou's fault, because he can only play the pitchers he's given to work with. Plus, how did we not add a left handed bullpen presence, or a replacement for Marmol in the 7th/8th at the deadline? A good GM would have done that.

Hardly ever post but come to the site because I enjoy the comments (well, except for the Bizarro-world banter in this thread). Anyway, I remember reading a while back that Manny hasn't posted because he just wants to sit back and enjoy the season. I'm paraphrasing but that's the jist of it.

Fell asleep before I could watch Fat Lance run off the field...too bad.

"Manny hasn't posted because he just wants to sit back and enjoy the season"

There's some irony there, cherie.

In all seriousness. You have to wonder if all the inept roster construction of the past was Hendry or McFails doing? Cubs have/will win 2 consecutive Central Titles as soon as McFail and his penny pinching ways were shown the door. Did he restrict the spending. Did tribco? Could 05 and 06 have really been as good as 07/08 have been? So many questions? really?......?

Or... could the struggles in '05 and '06 been, in large part, due to an over reliance on two starting pitchers who couldn't stay healthy? Add to that Lee's injury in '06.

I think it was a combination of relying on unhealthy pitchers, fluke injuries (Lee), taking risks that didn't pan out (Nomar), bad managing, Neifi Perez, and Michael Barrett.

The Cubs have had their fair share of injuries to key players this season, they are just a deeper team.

Valid points on all fronts.

However there seems to be an all around better sense of urgency to repair holes that need repaired. No longer do I worry that if any starter gets hurt. It opens up an everyday spot for a Neifi Perez.

Never EVER during the McFail regime did we go out and target front line free agents of any kind. The free agents we targeted were always either the 3rd tier. Jack Jones, Todd Walker, Julian Tavarez, Shane Andrews, Willie Greene type guys. Or injury rehab projects like Wade Miller, Shawn Estes and Mike Sirotka.

In Two years out from under the McFail watch and we have signed Soriano,Ted Lilly,Kfuk, and Ponied up for Aram after stupidly letting him go to Free Agency.

Now Baltimore seems to be stuck in the paralysis by analysis mode that always hampered the cubs.

All of this leads me to believe that AZ Phil was on to something. Maybe McFail really was the main culprit in the Cubbie struggles of the last Decade.

Agreed, it appears McFail and his desire to compete for the wild card were a major factor in the Cubs trying to win on the cheap.

That's too easy.


MacPhail has admitted putting arbitrary $$ ceilings on Hendry's ability to make moves to improve the roster.

What an utterly loathsome thread. It's like the Cody Ross of threads.

I don't know, I just hate Cody Ross.

This thread is the Dan Uggla of All-Star game threads.

rich hill to AAA DL. back spasms.


Wait....this is a BASEBALL blog?

Who knew?

Hoffpauir now hitting .357 - .381 - .709 (that .709 slugging is even higher than Dubois') at AAA. Koyie Hill actualy up to a respectable .291 - .356 - .507

Yeah, K Hill realized that he was leaving his "make 'em pitch 5 mph faster" switch on while he was batting, too. Once he realized that, he feels like he has time to scratch his balls before he needs to swing...

and taking the roster spot of Steve Ire who will either be traded or DFA'd before the game.

Waivered, traded or released, Eyre won't be out of work long.

Well, I hope they're able to get something for him. It's a shame, really to have to let him go.

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  • "An MRI taken Monday on the right side of Jorge Soler showed no major damage."

    crunch 6 min 52 sec ago view
  • rare air though if he can keep it under 2. Sounds like Maddon already made up his mind though and Hendricks seems like the sort that would want to earn it. Guessing he gets a quick hook if he's still under 2 after 5 innings.

    Fwiw, he can give up 1 ER in 5 innings (or more) and still be under 2. If he gives up 2 ER, he would need throw 9 IP to keep it under 2. 1 ER in 4 IP would give him an ERA of exactly 2.

    In terms of WAR, it's still Scherzer by a lot (6.4), then Cueto (5.6), Lester (5.5), Kershaw (5.5), Roark (5.4), and then Hendricks (5.1)

    Rob G. 1 hour 20 min ago view
  • Boring lineup tonight in terms of guys trying to reach milestones -- no KB (40 HR), Addy (100 RBI) or JHey (can he keep it going?), and Lackey isn't really going for anything, plus the team has already reached 100 wins. I get the "rest" thing, although they will have 4 days off after Sunday, but....bleh.

    billybucks 2 hours 5 min ago view
  • Agree -- I think you want to keep him on a regular schedule.

    billybucks 2 hours 24 min ago view
  • Ramos torn ACL

    jacos 2 hours 52 min ago view
  • Sure, its not about his record.

    jacos 2 hours 53 min ago view
  • Do you start him Sunday or not?

    @jonmorosi Pitchers w/ sub-2.00 ERA in year of 185+ IP this century: Pedro ’00, Clemens ’05, Kershaw ’13/’14, Arrieta ’15, Greinke ’15, Hendricks ’16.

    Rob G. 4 hours 15 min ago view
  • Yeah -- that would be rough for him. But, Monty is getting people out, he's a lefty and he has experience working out of the bullpen. Hammel? None of the above.

    billybucks 5 hours 10 min ago view
  • even if he's not starting, abandoning hammel would be a bit of a 'screw you.' i think it might be -monty +hammel, but it's speculation.

    either way, someone's gonna be disappointed.

    crunch 6 hours 11 min ago view
  • Joe said he is leaning towards 11 pitchers and 14 position players.

    - 4 starters, Chapman, Rondon, Strop, CJ, Wood, Grimm, Monty. No dice for Cahill or Smith.
    - 3 catchers, Rizz, Zo, Addy, KB, Javy, Heyward, Fowler, Soler, Coghlan, TLS and then Sczcur over Almora?

    billybucks 6 hours 22 min ago view
  • Cubs 3B Jason Vosler made two really bad throws on consecutive AB in the 8th. Fortunately the game was no longer in doubt at the time  

    The first one was a one-hop lob that allowed the batter to reach base on an infield single, and the second was air-mailed so far over the first-baseman's head that it went over the fence and landed in Field #4.

    Arizona Phil 6 hours 57 min ago view
  • E-MAN: Despite the HR, Donnie Dewees is really more of a slash hitter (the HR was an opposite-field line-drive) who can accumulate lots of doubles & triples. He's also a good bunter and can get on base that way, too. Although he was thrown out trying to steal in the game, he's actually a good base-stealer and baserunner.

    Defensively he has plus-range and tracks fly balls OK, so he can play CF, but he has a rag arm that requires the middle infielders to go out further into CF to make relays.

    Arizona Phil 6 hours 58 min ago view
  • I don't know how many of you remember Bobby Knoop, who played 2B for the Angels, White Sox, and Royals back in the day, but he is a coach-emeritus for the Angels, and works with the infielders at Minor League Camp, Extended Spring Training, and Instructs. He's pretty spry for a 77-year old, and he really knows his shit.

    Arizona Phil 7 hours 26 min ago view
  • With a big lead, Chapman was throwing sliders and changeups, something he's reluctant to do in a save situation. (Len and Jim covered this.)

    VirginiaPhil 7 hours 34 min ago view
  • Maybe they have a bad owner, I don't know, but they still have players and fans and a franchise, all devastated by this loss of life. Plus, everybody who follows baseball is a fan of a guy like this. It's why I used the word tragedy, which other people throw around but I try to be careful with.

    I'm at an age where I remember old incidents better than recent ones, but I have to go back to Herb Score for something as disturbing.

    VirginiaPhil 7 hours 50 min ago view
  • That was Dee Gordon's only HR this year. Wow.

    billybucks 7 hours 52 min ago view