A's Shut Down Cubs at Fitch
A's pitchers held the Cubs to one run on four hits while fanning twelve, as the Cubs dropped a 5-1 decision to the A's in AZ Instructional League action at Fitch Park Field #3 this afternoon in hot and sunny Mesa.
RHP Thomas Diamond got the starrt for the Cubs, and went two innings (54 pitches - only 32 strikes). He struggled with his command and labored throughout his two innings of work, although he only allowed one unearned run. His fastball was consistently in the low 90's, and he threw a few decent breaking balls, too, (at least the ones he was able to drop into the strike zone).
Diamond, the Texas Rangers 1st round draft pick in 2004,,was claimed off waivers by the Cubs earlier this month, before being placed back on Outright Waivers last week and ultimately getting outrighted to AAA Iowa.
Prior to being claimed off waivers by the Cubs, Diamond had been assigned to the Arizona Fall League by the Rangers, but the Cubs chose not replace one of the pitchers they assigned to the AFL with Diamond. Instead, the Cubs sent Diamond to the AZ Instructional League for some much needed work. (Diamond was one of the Rangers top prospects 2005-07 before undergoing Tommy John elbow surgery, and although he is able to pitch and occasionally shows flashes of his former self, his command generally stinks, like it did today).
Diamond pitched for Cubs Assistant GM Randy Bush back when Bush was head baseball coach at the University of New Orleans (Diamond was the ace of thev UNO staff), which is probably why the Cubs decided to take a flyer on the barrel-chested, 26-year old right-hander.
2009 6th round pick Brooks Raley (Texas A&M) followed Diamond to the hill, and had his ups & downs. The lanky lefty didn't walk anybody (although only 33 of his 53 pitches were strikes) and he did strike out four, but he also allowed two runs on three hits (one of which was a gargantuan homer onto 8th Street), a HBP, and a WP.
Hard-throwing RHP Trey McNutt (2009 32nd round draft pick Shelton State CC) followed Raley and also threw three innings, almost exactly duplicating Raley's line, the only differences being McNutt threw even fewer strikes than Raley (54 total pitches, only 31 strikes), didn't surrender a long ball, and walked one while striking out three, but otherwise he also allowed two runs on three hits, hit a batter, and threw a WP.
The Cubs offense never got going, the only run scoring in the 4th on an error, a walk, a ground out, and a Wild Pitch.
And catcher Brandon May (a converted infielder who is learning to catch at Instructs) had a bad day behind the plate, allowing two passed ball and one stolen base in just five innings of work.,
18-year old Taiwanese 2B Pin-Chieh Chen made his U. S. debut today, and went 0-3. He did make a strong relay throw from mid-RF to 3rd base attempting cut-down a baserunner, however (the runner was just barely safe), and handled four other chances at 2B flawlessly.
Speedy 17-year old Korean CF Kyung-Min Na left the game after fouling a ball off his ankle in the bottom of the 3rd, but he was able to walk to the clubhouse (albeit with a noticeable limp). I would guess he is "day-to-day."
2008 4th round pick Matt Cerda (broken hand) and 2009 11th round pick LHP John Mincone (June 2009 shoulder surgery to clean-up "debris") have been moved from the Fitch Park Rehab Group to the Cubs Instructs Active Roster. Mincone is scheduled to pitch tomorrow, and Cerda will be returning to the lineup sometime later this week.
Cerda, who was drafted as a catcher out of HS despite not catching since his Oceanside, CA little league team played in the Little Leegue World Series several years earlier, has been moved to 2B full-time, a postion he played off-and-on this season prior to his injury. Whether he will ever go back behind the plate (or get moved to yet another different position) is still TBD.
Meanwhile, Peoria RHP Marcus Hatley has undergone Tommy John Surgery and will probably miss most of the 2010 season while rehabbing at Fitch Park. And 2009 1st round pick CF Brett Jackson continues to nurse a sore wrist and is unable to play in games. .
Also, for those of you who might be wondering where 2009 10th round pick 1B-3B CharlesThomas is presently, he opted to return to Edward Waters College to complete his degree, rather than participate in the AZ Instructional League (to which he was invited).
He is today's abridged box score (Cubs players only):
1a. Kyung-Min Na, CF: 0-2 (E-4, 4-3)
1b. Blair Springfield, RF: 0-2 (K, K)
2. Logan Watkins, DH #1: 1-4 (1B, 4-3, 3-1, P-6), CS
3. Ryan Flaherty, 3B: 1-4 (K, E-6, L-7, 2B), R
4. Rebel Ridling, 1B: 0-3 (K, BB, F-8, 1-3)
5. Kyler Burke, RF-CF: 0-3 (K, K, P-2)
6a. Brandon May, C: 1-2 (2B, 6-3)
6b. Richard Jones, C: 1-1 (1B)
7. Bobby Wagner, DH #2: 0-2 (BB, K, K)
8. D. J. Fitzgerald, LF: 0-3 (K, K, 6-3)
9. Pin-Chieh Chen, 2B: 0-3 (6-3, 4-3, F-7)
10. Wes Darvill, SS: 0-3 (K, K, 4-3)
1. Thomas Diamond - 2.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R (0 ER), 2 BB,.2 K, 2 WP, 3/1 GO/FO, 54 pitches (32 strikes)
2. Brooks Raley - 3.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R (2 ER), 0 BB, 4 K, 1 HBP, 1 HR, 1 WP, 1 PO, 1/3 GO/FO, 53 pitches (33 strikes)
3. Trey McNutt - 3.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HBP, 1 WP, 4/2 GO/FO, 54 pitches (31 strikes)
4. Steve Grife - 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K, 2/1 GO/FO, 15 pitches (nine strikes)
Brandon May: 0-1 CS, 2 PB
Richard Jones: 1-1 CS
WEATHER: 100+ hot & sunny
ATTENDANCE: 18 (mostly scouts) :
the factual correction on your mistakes on your post that I barely bothered to read the first time because it had nothing to do with anything I wanted to talk about is indeed a sign of my degenerative brain condition. I appreciate the safety tip and will be looking into with extreme urgency now.
it took you 4 posts to get to this?
have you checked the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector?
Fwiw, Billy Hamilton's actual WAR numbers that relate to the ones that I posted for Mike Trout are:
- 2014: 2.5
- 2015: 1.0
- 2016: 2.6
But by all means #crunchsplain on the stupidity of WAR while exaggerating your points. I can't wait to read more.
Thanks for the awesome give and take today and for the 535 words you spilled filling in all the gaps that I woefully neglected. We're all a little wiser and better for it. I look forward to your play-by-play summary later in the comments.
it was about a post comparing players based on WAR...and comparing WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...a post that you made...and i made a comment...that talked about D weighting of WAR...and comparinging WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...etc etc...
hell, we didn't even get in deep. i didn't even involve UZR or FIP versions and their strengths/weaknesses...or position mandated "handicapping" in points...etc.
let's not talk about that...cool, fine, awesome. context sucks. san dimas highschool football rules.
Thanks for shining a light on this very important topic and steering it away from the frivolity that was the awesomenes of Mike Trout, but moreso on the foolishness of WAR as a metric to judge the value of center fielders. We're all a little wiser now and your contributions are invaluable to this community and to America's pastime. God Bless!
so...what's chan-yong lim up to these days?
yes, those hamilton WAR numbers are very reasonable. i'm on your side now based on that biting commentary and reasoning of why he's a 3.5-ish WAR player over a 600 PA season.
those numbers are obviously well deserved and worthy of no scrutiny...none at all. no issue.
CF D is rarer than a jon lester pickoff at 2nd...totally irreplaceable...no way in hell there's good D, low/no-hitting CF's in anyone's system that could do what hamilton is doing. guys like this don't exist...you get like, 2-3 at any given time in history.
Please do not discuss War here. I think the Cub Reporter should be politics free.
But yes, whether you support War or Peace...Mike Trout is ridiculously consistent and good.
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CF WAR is ridiculous...billy hamilton is pulling a 3.0 WAR somehow...and managed a 2.0 WAR last year (even though he missed a month of the season)...and a 3.7 WAR in 2014.
yeah, a lot depends on how one is doing relative to others at a given position, but WAR is common used (right or wrong) as a blanket comparing all kinds of players.
trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo.