Game 117 Thread / Cardinals @ Cubs (2 of 3)

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SP Todd Wellemeyer SP Carlos Zambrano

8-4, 4.01, 87 K, 41 BB, 128 IP

12-4. 2.76, 98 K, 47 BB, 146.2 IP
       
CF *Skip Shumaker LF Alfonso Soriano
2B *Adam Kennedy SS Ryan Theriot
1B Albert Pujols 1B Derrek Lee
RF Ryan Ludwick 3B Aramis Ramirez
LF #Felipe Lopez CF *Jim Edmonds
3B Troy Glaus 2B Mark DeRosa
C
Yadier Molina RF *Kosuke Fukudome
P Todd Wellemeyer C Geovany Soto
SS #Aaron Miles P #Carlos Zambrano

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manthislineupsucks

bernie mac is dead :(

oh man...

Have mentioned recently how much I hate Fox? Well I do. Fuck these broadcasting rules.

screwy thing is the east coast is getting this game.

9.999999 times out of 10 you get BOS/NYY/NYM based games...occasionally ATL.

Maybe you're getting it for some reason, but flagship Fox in NY is doing Angels/Yankees just like the west coast.

whatever's going on i'll take it. dunno how they break them up these days but it used to be a 3-tiered thing.

if its more regionally controlled now that makes a bit more sense.

I switched off Fox and I'm alternating between WGN and ESPN Radio on XM 183. Both require fiddling with the DVR to synchronize with the Fox broadcast.

Has anyone tried this $40 SportSync radio advertised by WGN? Features a slider control to set a delay of up to 8 seconds.

http://www.sportsyncradio.com/index.html

Doesn't look like Z's day today. Let's hope the offense can bail him out.

Stockton is truly clueless on baseball - shades of the playoffs last year. He's still OK on football, but please, can't they find someone else these days?

edit 3 home runs Make that FOUR BALLS THAT LEFT THE YARD. Something's not right.

If it isn't Lee it's Ramirez grounding into a double play. Nice one-two punch.

Z was due for stinker at some point - and here it is.

Get that slump out of the way now, Z. We need you to be lights out at the end of the season heading into the playoffs.

Why did Z stink?
No Movement?

he was throwing strikes. It seemed to me the cards knew what he was going to throw. Like he is falling into a pattern. But once you give up 5 runs, you would think the pattern would change. Any ideas?

he was missing his spots, mostly. catcher would set up low/in and it'd end up low/in-the-middle-of-the-f'n-plate.

one of the homers was on a hanging slider. that happens.

fastball was giving him the most control issues.

Was he throwing sidearm 91 MPH fastballs or his good over the top one?

didn't pay attention to motion, release, or velocity. spent most of the game in denial.

Maybe something went wrong Z's pre-game hammering and piggyback of Godenot ...

Most of the Cardinal hitters were swinging at the first pitch (and connecting), and a few were sitting on Z's inside fastball, even out of the strike zone. Maybe Larussa did spot something.

Just one of those games, but Sundays game is pretty huge. Gotta keep winning series.

Thanks Fox Sports!

Just for fun-- Hoffpauir's stats the last two seasons at Iowa:

132 G, 519 AB, 175 H, 53 2B, 0 3B, 31 HR, 147 RBI, 35 BB, 64 K, 2 SB, 1 CS.

337/379/618; .997 OPS

(eat your heart out Daryle Ward)

I spoke too soon. After Saturday night's game vs. Round Rock (in which he hit 4 home runs), Hoffpauir's updated stats over two seasons:

133 G, 524 AB, 179 H, 53 2B, 0 3B, 35 HR, 151 RBI, 35 BB, 64 K, 2 SB, 1 CS.

342/383/643; 1.026 OPS

Hoffpauir has hit 3 hr's in tonight game

damn.

that said, what would be really impressive would be a 3 walk game. hehe...

i agree with a lot of others that hoff's gonna make a great d.ward replacement, though.

make that 4 hr's

"I've been working on trying to stay short on my swing and not try to do too much, and the patience and practice paid off," Hoffpauir said. "I never hit more than two homers in a game and after the third one, the guys were starting to get on me a bit.

Listening, Felix??

BTW, here's Micah Hoffpauir's splits before last nights
four home run performance.....

vs LHP 0.327 0.370 0.592 0.962
vs RHP 0.368 0.388 0.755 1.143

Daryle Ward as a pinch hitter, 39 AB's, 10 walks

.103 .286 .231

That's so refreshing to hear a Cub's prospect talk so seriously and specifically about working on fundamentals.

I've seen Hoffpauir up and down this years in the bigs with a good eye and nice consistency but I don't know much about how he projects long term at a major league level. Bypassing the question of whether he could become a valuable addition prior to September 1, does he have much long term potential?

I know he's pretty old to suddenly be an impactful major leaguer (how common is it for a 28 year old to suddenly find his own in the majors?), but it's not like he's spent a ton of time in AAA. His numbers look pretty good the last couple of years. Clearly we're not looking for a new 1st baseman before 2010. Could he be a good 4th OF? Backup first baseman and 4th OF?

He's really been great this year, but it's his attitude that I find the most promising.

he doesnt project very well cuz he swings at everything...good contact or bad.

that said he doesnt have a glaring hole in his swing like dubois had (i have no idea wtf dubois is doing now with his swing).

also the whole lack of speed and not really being a good OF'r plays against him. he's got the heart to overachieve with his body like matt stairs, but stairs is/was (more like "was" the recently) a guy who can reach back and get a little more outta his speed and D than you'd expect given his talents.

as far as the "lefty who can come off the bench, put something in play, and move some runners" guy goes...he's practically ideal and definitely worth the shot the cubs have given d.ward.

I've seen Hoffpauir up and down this years in the bigs with a good eye and nice consistency but I don't know much about how he projects long term at a major league level. Bypassing the question of whether he could become a valuable addition prior to September 1, does he have much long term potential?

I know he's pretty old to suddenly be an impactful major leaguer (how common is it for a 28 year old to suddenly find his own in the majors?)

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Well, Ryan Ludwick turned 30 this July and had no regular Major League playing time until May of last year ('07). He spent 5 1/2 years in AAA, batting .285, .303, .271, .191, .266 from 2002 - 2006 before finally putting up a .340/8/36 line for the first 29 games in 2007 (including oba & slg of .380/.642), earning a call up to the Cards in May, 2007. He bats .267/14/52 (oba & slg of .339/.479) in 2/3-time duty in 2007 (303 abs in 120 games). Then he hits like a crazy man this year (.307/.385/.614 with 29 HR & 84 RBI in 109 games).

Don't know if Ludwick has arrived or if it is his version of Jim Hickman's 1970 season -- but it has to give hope to someone like Hoffpauir.

"and the patience and practice paid off"

patience? hoffpower?

that mean he taking 3 pitches in an AB instead of 1-2? heh...

Carlos Lee done for the year with a broken finger according to rotoworld. Also Ryan Braun left the game with some back tightness in the 4th tonight. The career of Jose Contreas might have ended tonight as he ruptured his Achillies tendon, thats a 9-12 month rehab and you have to wonder if a 40+ yr old guy would want to go through that rehab.

Contreras came to the country to play baseball. I'd imagine he's goint to play for as long as he can.

Besides Hoffpauir's 4 there were 7 other dingers in last night's game in Roundtripper, er, Round Rock, including one each by Felix Pie [who had 4 hits]& Mitch Atkins [who ran his record to 6-0]...

Josh Kroeger's last two seasons at Iowa, where he has mostly played RF. He turns 26 at the end of the month.

155 G, 537 AB, 157 H, 40 2B, 3 3B, 23 HR, 88 RBI, 59 BB, 103 K, 9 SB, 4 CS.

292/362/507; 869 OPS

Nate Spears's last two seasons at AA, where he has mostly been playing 2B. You'll remember this is the guy we got for Corey Patterson.

138 G, 438 AB, 132 H, 22 2B, 5 3B, 10 HR, 57 RBI, 62 BB, 77 K, 7 SB, 5 CS.

301/388/443 (831 OPS)

There' no one blocking him at 2B in Iowa, so I imagine we'll see how he does next year.

wow, C. Kahrl (Baseball Prospectus) complementing Hendry on the Eyre-Schlitter trade, pigs flying as I type:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?arti...

Traded LHP Scott Eyre to the Phillies for RHP Brian Schlitter. [8/7]

Tasty, but in an amuse bouche sort of way, in that the Cubs got a pair of worthwhile somethings for moving Eyre out of the way: realizing some small amount of cost savings for placing the veteran on somebody else's roster, plus adding a Chicago-native hurler who's doing a good job of blowing batters away in the Florida State League. Schlitter's not a great prospect, but definitely a pitcher worth getting for a discard, a 22-year-old who throws hard, a massive guy on the mound (6'5" and ≈240 pounds) with consistent low-90s heat with good sink (although no good secondary offering; his slider's graded as poor). In his first full season since being picked by the Phillies in the 16th round of the 2007 draft, he's been thriving in High-A, striking out 58 and walking only 17 (unintentionals only) in 48 2/3 IP, and getting 1.8 ground-ball outs for every caught fly. We'll see if he can make the leap to Double-A, but again, we're talking about something for nothing. Nicely done, Mr. Hendry, without even causing any real concern over whether or not you've helped a potential playoff opponent in the process.

and they just said the series finale would not be on live TV. I wonder how in the age of Cable TV how are a game of a playoff contender would not be on live TV. What else does FSN Wisconsin have to air on a Monday afternoon? A 6-hour pregame for the Packers pre-season debut? Through 4 its 0-0.

Hoff - Power = this generation's Keith Moreland? I'd settle for that comparison any day.

So yea... Milwaukee is getting no-hit through 5.

I *heart* Eric Gagne.

gives up back to back jacks in the 8th (Kearns-Millidge)

4-1 Nats

I was thinking earlier of how disappointing Austin Keans and Ryan Zimmerman were this year.

Kearns and Milledge making things difficult for MKE. If the Nats and Cubs both win today, then the Cubs exit the weekend with the same lead as when the series started. And the Cards would be another game off the pace.

the nats are really bad...

4-4

And the Nats show why they're the Nats...

Nats get out of a jam.
Brewers have left 14 on base, recieving 11 walks.
This would really be a huge win for them, with the possibility of ending this 4 game series only down 2.5.

This Brewers team is terrible. The Nats have done everything they can to give them the game but they just can't execute.

Yup. Terrible team. 15 over .500 against a tougher schedule than the Cubs, 2 straight shutouts by top line starters, won 7 of 9 since the Cubs swept them. Awful.

Did you watch this game? i think they got walked 13 times.

excruciating

Yes I watched most of the game. Yes, I understand the Nationals suck. But to call the Brewers "terrible" is extremely silly. They are clearly the 2nd best team in the league, with 2 dominant front end starters who I'd want no part of in the playoffs. 115 games into the season and they are hanging right there with the Cubs. Cubs should hold them off, but they are for real.

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  • Eloy Jimenez and Jeimer Candelario named to Futures Game...

    See past Cubs' participants here. Let me know if you see a mistake or any other info that may prove useful and I can add it.

    http://wiklifield.thecubreporter.com/Cubs_that_Played_in_Futures_Game

    Rob G. 21 min 43 sec ago view
  • Now pitching for the Cincinnati Reds:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwbUCI9bEvA

    QuietMan 37 min 54 sec ago view
  • Sorry if I made it sound like a Schwarber for Sale straight up deal was reasonable, obviously Cubs would need to give up more than that. You don't trade Sale unless you're rebuilding and if you're rebuilding you want more than one piece. Easily 3-4 pieces with Schwarber being the main one...but that type of an ace arm or All-star talent with a few years of control is the type of return the Cubs should look for if they move Schwarber. I don't think they'll move him until he's healthy though. TheJedi are pretty good at maximizing trade value.

    Rob G. 41 min 32 sec ago view
  • I think you're very much overvaluing Schwarber if you think he can fetch Sale by himself. An unproven rookie with demonstrable offensive flaws he hasn't had the chance to show he can overcome and with no defensive upside will never fetch an ace of the quality of Sale in today's market where pitchers are fetching insane prices, especially with Sale's team friendly contract. You'd for sure need to throw in a pitching prospect in return at least.

    johann 1 hour 33 min ago view
  • best relievers in baseball tend to not be the best relievers for very long though...

    also, when you start just trading away guys for marginal benefits, that window will shrink. The window is easily through 2021, just have to look how long Rizzo is signed for and how long they have rights to Bryant, Russell and so on down the line.

    Can't say I'm too worried about the SP, they've done nothing but land guys on the cheap and on the expensive since they've arrived. TheJedi will figure that out.

    Rob G. 2 hours 9 min ago view
  • Not sure I agree with this logic. The Cubs are one of the best teams in baseball, they have spent heavily on the team over the past couple of seasons, have more hitting prospects than they have places for them to play (and more on the way), a clear weakness in the bullpen, and have a 1.5 year window with Arrieta (to say nothing of the likely declines of Lester and Lackey).

    Unless you think (maybe even if you do think) Schwarber is the next coming of Babe Ruth, I would certainly consider trading him if it brought back a couple of the best relief pitchers in baseball.

    Rob Richardson 4 hours 52 min ago view
  • Miggy was going to sit anyway with Lester starting.

    In related news, do any of the Cubs pitchers want to throw to Contreras?

    Rob G. 5 hours 4 min ago view
  • Only Russell and Miggy failed to reach base yesterday. Both sit today.

    billybucks 5 hours 12 min ago view
  • Trading Schwarber actually makes a lot of sense because his actual position is currently being taken by Anthony Rizzo, unless they vote in the DH this offseason.

    Trading him for a reliever is never going to happen though. I don't think you can trade Schwarber unless you get a CF'er for a few years (presume Fowler finds his multi-year deal next offseson) or a couple of high end young starters...or an established starter...a good one like Chris Sale.

    Rob G. 5 hours 24 min ago view
  • I don't see what the Yanks have that the Cubs need.

    Ryno 5 hours 29 min ago view
  • peter gammons on MLB network pushing the yanks/schwarber angle...says insiders from the yanks say brian cashman highly covets him.

    unless that conversation starts with a.miller (2/18m left on contract) i dunno how you even start that conversation given the "not trash, but no stars" state of the yanks minor league system.

    they got corner OF'r aaron judge, C gary sanchez, RHP james kaprielian's questionable elbow, RHP domingo acevedo...all interesting, none expected to impact the game like schwarber's power potential.

    crunch 6 hours 2 min ago view
  • Zo, Heyward, KB, Riz, Contreras (LF), Baez (SS), Szczur (CF), Ross, Lester

    Cubster 6 hours 10 min ago view
  • damn. low sample size blah blah whatever, but that slash got sneaky good. 10 hits, 4 walks, 2hr, 1 double through 39 PA...nice

    crunch 6 hours 30 min ago view
  • Buddy Ryan takes his place alongside George Allen as the great Bear head coaches who never were.

    VirginiaPhil 9 hours 24 min ago view
  • Well, at least he can still hit: Jake slashing .294/.368/.868. Forget hitting 8th -- he should hit 6th.

    billybucks 9 hours 43 min ago view
  • Curious to see today's lineup vs. a LHP: Ross needs to catch Lester, Joe likes Javy at 3B when Lester pitches. Heyward with back-to-back good games at the plate, and is actually hitting a little better against LHP (.247/.341) than RHP (.232/.321), although neither is much to write home about. But, tomorrow is an early day game, so some regulars will probably sit either today or tomorrow.

    Maybe Willson in LF, KB in RF and Almora in CF? If so, Albert Jr., assume every ball is yours.

    billybucks 9 hours 48 min ago view