Cubs Rumor Round-Up: Bradley 3-Way, Chapman & More

All Milton, all the time...

- Foxsports's rumor mongering robot Robothal is hearing talks about a 3-way trade of Milton Bradley to the Blue Jays, Lyle Overbay to the Mets and Luis Castillo to the Cubs. 

The three-team possibility, according to one source, has "some legs,
but not much." The Jays are opposed to the deal, one source says —
perhaps because new GM Alex Anthopolous does not want a trade for
Bradley to be his first major move.

Castillo is owed $6M each of the next two seasons, will be 34 next year has piss-poor UZR and Rate2 numbers the last few seasons and was the proud owner of a .337 wOBA(barely above average) last season thanks mostly to a .342 BABIP which isn't something he's shown he can repeat too often. So that's exciting...

But if the Cubs can indeed move the $21M owed Bradley for the $12M owed Castillo, well that becomes a no-brainer for the Cubs. Chances are they'll have to throw some cash which spins me right back to the not so exciting camp.

The same article says the Rays have been the heaviest pursuers of Bradley mentioning Pat Burrell again. Their salaries even out in 2010 according to Robothal, but Rays want Cubs to pay most of 2011 to relieve them of their headache.

- Bruce Levine chimed in earlier saying the Cubs have talked with Mets, Blue Jays, Rangers, Rays and Angels about Bradley. Levine reiterates that Rich Harden and Kevin Gregg are as good as gone, Cubs would like to resign John Grabow and Reed Johnson could be welcome back if he accepts a one year deal. He says the Cubs priorities are bullpen help, a leadoff hitter, center field and a veteran middle infielder...like Luis Castillo for example.

- Bruce Miles talked to Carlos Zambrano's agent and said he hasn't been approached about waving any no-trade clauses and thinks it's a "non-story".  Talk with Hendry included glowing praise of Starlin Castro and that a deal for Bradley isn't close.

- For what it's worth, which isn't much...Billy Williams would like to salvage the Milton Bradley situation in Chicago.

- Finally, the Cubs did inquire about the Cuban lefty fireballer Aroldis Chapman, but "seem to be going in other, cheaper directions"

Otherwise, be sure you don't miss Arizona Phil's Top 15 prospect list for something with some substance over this rumor mongering.

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I think Ken Rosenthal reads MLB Traderumors just like the rest of the MLB fan nation. The guy is a Type A douche bag. The Bradley for Castillo move would at least uphold the theory of left-handed on-base and free up roughly $9 million over the next two years, as long as the Cubs do not have to eat money in return. Personally, if this deal has legs (and all indications are that it does not), this would probably be as good as it gets. I for one am not for a Pat Burrell for Milton Bradley swap. The Cubs do not need another high strikeout non-defensive left fielder on the roster. The Cubs would just be faced with a $9 million dollar bench player. It is reported too that the Rays would want the Cubs to pick up the majority of Bradley's contract for '11, which the Cubs would almost be better off just rolling with the punches and see if he works out next year or creates a market for himself at all.

"The guy is a Type A douche bag."

What has he done to you?

MLB "Traderumors" is basically a re-hash, and re-packaging site. Talk about "douche-bags", DIRTBAG.

No original "rumors" other than what they pick up from other feeds.

at least they source their stuff now rather than pretending like they're scooping stuff...

E-Man,

I apologize if I offended the one Ken Rosenthal apologist in the room. As always, I appreciate a clarification of the obvious. Keep up the good work. This site needs more John Madden-esque commentary. Cheers.

"As always, I appreciate a clarification of the obvious. Keep up the good work. This site needs more John Madden-esque commentary. Cheers."

For a new poster, you are pretty insulting for no reason.

I didn't apologize for Rosenthal, only asked what he did to you, and what it was that you find so bothersome about him. You decided to turn this into an insult to me. Nice retort, you DIRTBAG.

is this rumor burping?

Muskat tweets: Cubs GM Jim Hendry says Milton Bradley may be back in 2010, and called the outfielder's '09 season a "major hiccup"

my guess is they were all that same press conference...quote from Miles.

''He's still with us,'' Hendry said. ''Other people have had some major
hiccups along the way and come back. He is on your roster until proven
differently.''

Tend to agree with that.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs...

same hiccup quote...

3-way deal of no interest to Blue Jays, Texas with most interest if Cubs pay the contract.

hiccup, burp and a belch...

Muskat posts at cubs.com:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091109&c...

"Other people have had some major hiccups along the way and come back, and that's just how you have to look at it."

any truth to the rumor milton to the 30-60 day DL because of hiccups?

Thanks, crunch! That gave me the grins.

What about Derrek Lowe for Bradley? The Braves seem to think they have a starter to deal, and are probably wanting to get out of that contract.

The Cubs could then turn around and trade Wells and a prospect for a good young (pre-arb?) center fielder... Felix Pie? OK maybe someone with a little better track record like...Dexter Fowler?

when I linked to MLB trade rumors bad contracts that was my dream trade...

Braves seem to want to move Vazquez or Kawakami though...

Hey, Castillo's career BABIP is .333. Why are we talking about .342 like it's a miraculous fluke?

that was me, not we, but not expecting him to really get back there too often and even if he does he seems like a below average defender with at best, if he's lucky, average bat...

not that the Cubs will do that much better for Bradley anywhere else...

castillo played with leg/hip injuries the past 2 years...and showed up out of shape to begin 2008...

he's still a pretty slick fielder, imo.

btw...im not even remotely a fan him coming here, fwiw.

thanks, other than the games played didn't really follow what his injuries were...certainly could explain a lot.

i'd be happy if someone came out and shot this rumor down. castillo is a guy that probably wouldn't hurt much, but i can't see much value into what he can add even at his best.

he's a singles hitter who's speed is on the decline at the plate without even getting into the D.

i actually think a baker/fontenot duo could be pretty damn adequate 2nd even though the team seems dead set on adding an IF'r.

i'd be happy if someone came out and shot this rumor down.

see comment #4

well awesome.

DB mentioned the BABIP it in a previous post.

He's no sloth on the bases and if he can play passable defense and put up a .375 OBP he's going to be a real asset - right now we're looking at Colvin as our CF and leadoff hitter.

god, I'd hope it would be Fuld not Colvin if we were desperate...

OK, Fuld for two weeks until he's hurt, then Colvin.

He's no sloth on the bases

You don't think he's a bit overrated as a base stealer? 20-6 last year, 17-2 the year before (that percentage is actually very good), 19-6 in 2007, 25-11 in 2006, 10-7 (!) in 2005, etc. Most seasons he's been caught stealing quite a bit, sometimes even with his CS approaching is SB (2005, 2003).

If they are dead set on selling low on Bradley, I'm not completely opposed to a Luis Castillo deal, mostly because I am a fan of OBP and he's at least decent in that department (or has been in the past). I'd feel a lot better about it if it was straight up with no cash exchange, though. I'd also feel better about it if it meant the end of Aaron Miles.

added to Blue Jays 40-man roster...

the yearly article about how you're going to see more trades this year...

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=335359

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 11/10/2009 - 12:18am.
Dopirak added to Blue Jays 40-man roster

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ROB G: 1B Brian Dopirak (by TOR), 3B Adam Heether (by MIL), RHP Juan Morillo (by MIN), and RHP Hayden Penn (by FLA), were added to 40-man rosters on Monday, just in front of the deadline for adding Rule 55 minor league free-agents to a 40-man roster by club selection. (Dopirak is currently leading the VWL in HR & RBI).

MLB will be releasing the list of Rule 55 minor league free-agents (Six-Year Minor League FAs) later this week.

/hallucinogenics and rants

AZ Phil is awesome is my post preamble...

Luis Castillo and Mike Cameron, these are just the type of bullshit moves Hendry always makes. That's why he'll never be a premium GM and why the Cubs will never get to the WS with this fat douchebag at the helm.

How about mixing things up, Fat Boy? The Dodgers and Zambrano would make a perfect fit, make the big trade. Ask for Kemp or Ethier and a prospect. If they belch on taking on the size of that contract (unlikely, they have $$), take Furcal's contract off their hands, send them Theriot if need be. We only need a 1-2 year placeholder at SS anyway with all the young SS prospects the Cubs now have in the minors. One of them will work out....right??

Sure, I recognize a deal like this won't happen, but can't we have a big picture GM that at least PURSUES possibilities like this, for ONCE?

And yes I know Z has a NTC, but you gotta figure LA would be his number 1 choice if ever traded. National League so he hits. High profile team that is a winner. Big hispanic presence. Love big personality figures in la-la land. He'd be perfect for them, and I bet he knows it.

Count me in on the Bradley for Lowe talk, that would be great. Lowe had an off-year, you'd be buying low (he-he). He has a strong track record and has always pitched well at Wrigley FWIW.

Has Tampa really soured on BJ Upton? Really? How can the Cubs get this guy?

Billy Wagner, yes please. Lefty/righty 8/9 combo in Wagner and Marmol. Lefty/righty 6/7 combo in Grabow and Guzman. Lefty/righty middle relief in Marshall and Should Still Be Wuertz, But a Replacement Can Be Found, So Long as He's Not Named Aaron. What's wrong with that bullpen?

I bet the Cubs could get Kerry Wood back pretty easy. He's not a kid anymore, so there's no reason to baby him, if he breaks, he breaks, and I bet he accepts that at this stage. So why not make him a starting pitcher again? Lilly, Dempster, Wells, Lowe and Wood, yeah, I'd take my chances with that bunch.

/hallucinogenics

The Braves are pretty big on the character of the individual. Milton Bradley is like Kryptonite to that franchise, they wont touch him with a ten foot pole. You can bank on a Bradley for Lowe deal never ever happening. The Braves aren't going to trade a proven winner for a proven loser.

And for the Zambrano mouth breathers, you might want to stop hyper-ventilating and worry when he has a season with an ERA close to 5.00, rather than 4.00 before you want to give up on a 28 year old pitcher. Years 28-34 typically have pitchers enjoying their best runs. And you are not going to get no Matt Kemp or Andre Ethier for Zambrano, they want offensive production not another pitcher. Otherwise they would have just kept Derek Lowe.

BJ Upton is a possibility only because Tampa has the next big thing waiting in the minors for the OF and believe he can play now, so between Upton and Crawford one of them has to go. Only problem is Tampa is a notoriously tough negotiator. Be prepared to pay more than you want to get either one of them. They are a small market team so they want great prospects in return, something the Cubs can't offer, which puts us far off their radar in getting either one of them.

Lengthy interview with Kerry Wood by David Laurila from Baseball Prospectus:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?arti...
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DL: Are you a future pitching coach?

KW: I don’t think so. I don’t know if I have the patience. I don’t think I could deal with 13 different personalities. Pitchers complain a lot.

I so agree with Jim Hickman's Bat. If we're going to make some moves, we should go after championship level players...not players whose best days are behind them. For CF,Rowand,Granderson,Upton would all be significantly better options than Cameron. Re: 2B Castillo's best days are way, way behind him. The Marlins payroll next year is $36 million and they won't pay Uggla who would be an upgrade for us. I know his defense is suspect but has averaged 90 RBIs over the last 4 years in a very defensive ballpark. We have the trading chips in our minor league system to make some significant moves (thanks AZ Phil for the thumbnails). We also have lots of underperforming players (some with NT clauses) that Hendry should try to move anyway. It's time for Hendry to get bold and creative...unless he is satisfied with winning 83 games again next year.

(snip)

...unless he is satisfied with winning 83 games again next year.

That's the bitch of it. For too long, too many in the Cubs organization ARE satisfied with 83 win seasons. The fans are in the seats, the money flows, the "Wrigley Experience" continues, blah blah.....To hell with that, I'd watch them play in Comiskular if it meant a goddamn winner for once. Anything less than a WS title is total BS, and any GM that doesn't have that philosophy is a worthless POS in my book.

The items you discuss would be great IF the team did not have the back-loaded contracts it is saddled with making them unmovable.

Take Z off the staff, and you are left with a rotation barely in the middle of the NL pack, and it would put even more wear and tear on the pen.

The payroll is not going up, and if you were another GM, knowing that as fact, how the hell is Hendry going to get out of the hole he created?

What prospects from the Cubs farm team would you be interested in getting back for the names you suggest?

As armchair GM, the Jim Hickman's Bat guy's rant is fine. In the real world, it just will not make sense under the current scenario.

Take Z off the staff, you could replace him with another #3 starter EASILY and you are left with a rotation equivalent to what it was last year. He averaged pretty much exactly six innings per start, which is it self putting plenty of strain on the bullpen. With his contract, this guy is VERY replaceable.

"With his contract, this guy is VERY replaceable."

I think it's his contract that would make him hard to replace.

With many of our mainstay players such as Lee, Aram, Fukudome, Theriot, Soriano, Dempster and Lilly all on the wrong side of 30, this team has a narrow window of opportunity to win. With the exception of Cashner and Castro, we should be willing to part with any of our other prospects in order to obtain the kind of players who can get us to the playoffs and WS. Why not? I am not ready to settle for another 100 years of futility. Hendry is an idiot if he thinks that this team will win with just some minor tweaking. Our record against winning teams is awful. Compare our lineup to LA or Philly and I'm sure you'll agree that we just don't measure up. Under the current economic conditions many small market teams need to cut payroll and we should take advantage of that. I am tired of hearing about BS players like Cameron and Castillo whose best days are long gone. It's time to make some significant changes. Let's see if Hendry and Ricketts have the balls to do it.

Levine says the Rangers are talking to Hendry. Kevin Millwood is a possibility.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/464...

well I guess Milwood could luck into another good year...

It's lunchtime at the GM meetings.

Jon Heyman (SI) tweets:

milton bradley's "like oddball kid in class" with #cubs teammates. "no way he can go back," source says.

some of these milton bradley rumors are wild. but he has to go somewhere. word is, many #cubs stars wont even talk to him.
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on THE SCORE, Heyman elaborates that Zambrano, Ramirez, and Soriano generally just don't talk to him. They avoid him.

whoever David Schuster is (I think a SCORE radio guy) was on XM and said that some players literally stood up and cheered when Bradley suspension announcement was made. He said other than the beginning of the year, he never saw Bradley talking to anyone in the clubhouse.

 

Indeed, WSCR radio Cubs "beat" reporter.

And, without a doubt, "a face for radio".

I believe the face for radio can read too.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_...

Heard the same.

Also Boers is changing his tune on cutting Bradley.

I reported right at the end of the seaoson that his "Cubs insider" told him no way Cubs would eat Bradley's contract.

Now they are saying Ricketts will eat the contract if there are no other avenues.

Question-
Cubs cut Bradley come March, no one signs him do they just have to pay him 2010 money or the whole contract at once?

I guess it doesn't matter, but that Cubs insider is an idiot letting that info get out. Why would teams trade for him if he's just going to be available at the league minimum in March.

i assume his contract gets paid out as normal over the course of 2 years.

Yeah, but I think because we found out doesn't mean that the league guys already knew or sensed it.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10343728/Latest...

sees Harden and Mariners as being a good fit, 6 teams have contacted Wagner's agent about being a closer, Putz willing to take set-up role if need be...

Bradley has some PA incentives in his deal as well which for some reason teams I guess are worried about.

How could a team, with a straight face say "Well, who is going to pay for it if we give Milton Bradley 600 PA's?". I obviously don't have the temperment to be a GM.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/jon-heyman-h...

something about Rangers would want Cubs to pay $16M of Bradley's $21M deal...

http://twitter.com/ChiTribRogers/status/5599032844

#Cubs trying hard to trade Milton Bradley in next 36 hours ... hard to believe anyone will take him but TB, Texas are listening, anyway.

Hopefully his contract will paralyze the front office for the entire off-season.. or maybe we will decide to keep him, then have him speak at the Cubs Convention, only to be booed so severly that Hendry will decide he has to trade him again before the season starts.

That would be smart.

Boers also said his insider told him that Bradley was an "actively evil influence in the clubhouse."

Hopefully Hendry can backload a deal for a 30 something outfielder coming off of a career year to replace Bradley

actively evil influence
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{{head spins around 360 degrees, spewing green bile...}}

Former WSCR baseball reporter, (Shorty)George Offman now working for WGN. Debut's on Sports Central tonight/Tues.

He apparently got caught up in the Webio scam. Then he apparently was going to start at WGN 6 weeks ago but he had a paralyzed vocal cord/laryngitis (not a good thing for a radio guy)

http://www.chitownradio.com/messages/8931.html

Sosa admits to using the cream for a long time...hmmm.

"What happened was that I had been using the cream for a long time and that, combined with the bright TV lights, made my face look whiter than it really is. I don't think I look like Michael Jackson," he said to ESPN Deportes.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/11/sammy...

That's why the rest of us use the clear--then you only glisten.

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