A Place in Wrigleyville



Another wonderful example of the terminal inferiority complex suffered by the citizens of the south side.

Same reason that fans in St. Louis despise the Cubs, a team that has, for the most part, been the Cards' bitch for the past 70 years.

I grew up in that neighborhood, and spent many an overserved night in the tiny bar and great beer garden.

Nowadays there are problably as many Cub fans as Sox fans who hang out there.

I don't really mind anti-Cub jokes...but that commercial wasn't even funny.

I'm curious to where it airs, not a lot of room for a :49 second TV spot.


Good question. Smells like a not-for-air viral video to me, but if they could cut it down to :30, it would be a great spot for local cable.

The Joe--

If you didn't like the one I posted, you'll really hate this one:


I think they're quite well done, and I imagine they were produced on a shoestring budget, which is always an accomplishment.

Also, I am impressed when anything composed by a White Sox fan doesn't have the word 'fuck' in it. 

I'm not dissing you for posting it. Just the commercial, but actually, I was just now thinking...well, it's not my place to say what is and isn't funny. I should have said, "I don't find it funny".

Not to worry, no exception taken.

I guess what confuses me is that I could never understand how some people can base their love of baseball around the hatred of a team. Sox fans seem to hate the Cubs more than they like the Cubs, sometimes. What's the point of following baseball just out of schadenfreude? (I just like using that word). I mean, I hate the Cards, but if they didn't exist, I'd give less than a shit, because I really just want the Cubs to win. So, if you're going to make a commercial about mindless hatred...you'd better make it clever.

You're asking the wrong guy. I LOVE to see the White Sox lose. Last night, watching Danks lose the no-hitter and then the game, hearing Hawk and D.J. get all pouty, was positively delicious, but I agree that I would probably not bother to build a commercial about White Sox hatred. Probably goes back to comment #1 about the old South Side inferiority complex.

My mom hates the White Sox, and cheers when they lose. My dad is indifferent, he calls the 'The White Nothings' not as an insult, but just to imply he doesn't care what they do.

For me its a chicken and egg type question. Early on as a Cubs fan I had no particular feelings toward the White Sox. That was until I met White Sox fans who all hated the Cubs, hated me for being a Cub fan, and wanted to talk smack at every occasion. This was the case with Sox fans who I grew up with in Iowa as well as Sox fans from the Chicago area I met in college. I could never really figure out why they hated the Cubs so much when, for the most part, we sucked for a long long time. But after so much shit from so many people, it got to me and I now love to see the Sox lose. Granted, I don't like Ozzie, AJ, Hawk and DJ, etc. either, but I mainly just want to see them lose badly so their asshole fans can suck it.

I love to see Harrelson sputter. The Wrigley series this year gave us some priceless Hawk moments. :-)

I also like to watch the Ozzie freak show just to see what he'll do next.

That said, I have nothing particularly against the Sox. I was happy to see them win the WS. However, Hawk & Ozzie put on their best shows when the Sox fail. :-)

I got not problem with that. There are teams I hate (personally I'm indifferent to the Sox) but I just can't imagine fans hating a team MORE than they like their own team.

I remember seeing fans in the stands at Comiscular during the World Series with shirts saying "Cubs suck". Your team is in the World Series and all you can think about is the Cubs. No White Sox shirts, but anti-Cubs shirts. That is ridickinthemouth.

Case in point:

I went to the 2nd Sox WS game in 2005 (my former company had tix), which was the game that Konerko hit a grand slam and Podsednik won with a walk-off HR. Fantastic game, people were laughing and hugging each other, with once-in-a-lifetime smiles on their faces and a few with tears in their eyes A great experience that reminded me to enjoy the hell out of good times when they come around.

On the El ride home, a Sox fan yells out, "Hey! I wonder what the CUBS are doing tonight?!", which gets a big cheer. I raised my eyebrows to my Sox-fan friend, and thought how odd it was that a team's fans would think of another team on the most joyous night of their sports life.

Such is the power of an inferiority complex.

It has to suck when you know that your team is going to win the world series and the city they play in won't care at all.

It would be like the Clippers winning the NBA finals here in Los Angeles. Nobody would care.

somehow I get the message from watching this ad that the son is certainly better off than if he was buying in Bridgeport.

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  • based on what SF has been doing every other year lately, getting access to the postseason playoffs seems to be what's important. bring on dat short series!

    that said, skipping the sudden death 1-game WC would be nice from here on out.

  • I know what you are saying, but I feel compelled to point out that there's no such thing as luck, curses, etc. The Cubs this year have as good as a chance as the Pirates to move on to the next round. If the Cubs proceed to the next round or not tomorrow, it will not be because of luck, but because one team outlasted the other. When/if the Cubs are lucky enough to make it to the league series, that's where they may find their biggest challenge. The Dodgers have a good, deep pitching staff.

  • debuting the new format 1 game "sudden death" WC matchup at yankee stadium does a perfect job of showing the intense emotion and drama this game can be.

    that said, i'm ready to not see yankee stadium or hear fans at yankee stadium for another 5 and 1/2 months. at least i don't have to sit through the braves with their "tommy hawk chawp" this postseason.

  • i'd like to know why the mlb.tv internet radio feed of the game (which is always delayed by a few seconds at best) is almost a minute faster than the ESPN cable TV coverage. wtf?

  • i dont know what order they'll be in, but i pretty much expect fowler/schwarb/rizzo/bryant/montero/castro/lastella/arrieta. any change at all (aside from the first 4 guys) wouldn't shock me, though. coghlan is still a wildcard in the lineup equation...plus joe could always march d.ross out there with very slow arrieta pitching.

  • Yup. Have to agree. Baseball, like golf, certainly has that psych component for the player. There is no real reason why a fielding position should affect a batting average. The Cubs are 106 years over due for a little luck. Don't you guys think so? Maybe the rookies can bring some dumb luck on.

  • probably stacking capable lefties vs cole while keeping the "hot" castro in the game. fwiw, he's 1-6 lifetime with 0 bb/k vs cole (double).

    i chalk bryant's issues at the plate while playing OF up to coincidence so far.

  • I will call your dead horse, "Trigger".

    In one game, when anything is possble, I am glad that Joe Maddon is our Manager.

    He knows the stats better than all of us. It would seem, IF La Stella gets the start at 3B, it will be only up to the point that they were to get the lead (crosses fingers). From everything I have read, the game will be managed like a hoops game: offense/defense. So expect La Stella to be out of the game by the 5th. This team is incredibly deep which is so surprising. We never woulda thunk it.

  • i don't know what their roster plans are, but j.herrera is out there practicing with the team.

    i can't imagine him making any roster, though. dude had 4 PA the entire month of sept. him being a good dude to be around while keeping the clubhouse loose seems to be his main role at this point.

  • I know it's my own personal dead horse to beat --but Bryant has been a lousy hitter when playing the OF this year. Given that it's his first playoff game, I really hope they keep him in his natural position and don't mess with his routine.

    Lousy as in 8-for-45 with one XBH and no HR. Small sample and all that -- but why take the chance?

  • hard to tell what's up given they'll probably want to stack as many good lefties into the lineup as possible.

    castro being a bit hot doesn't help things. if he was still cool they'd probably stick la stella at 2nd and call it a day.

  • Madden won't announce lineups but Stella is practicing at 3rd and Bryant in LF today. I'd rather see Bryant at 3rd but I guess Stella has been hotter than Coghlan.

    /edit. Though I guess they could be practicing this with the idea Stella would come in as a PH then double switch him to 3rd base and Bryant to LF. Hope that's the plan instead

  • I really like the sound of that idea about expanding the AFL to ten teams. Each org. gets to field more players.
    They should do that anyway, regardless of Adv. Instructs.

  • Dallas Beeler, Corey Black, David Garner, Pierce Johnson, Steve Perakslis, James Pugliese, Duane Underwood Jr, and Rob Zastryzny threw early-morning bullpen side-sessions at Riverview yesterday.  

    Underwood threw last, and received specific one-on-one instruction from pitching coach Mike Mason. 

  • HAGSAG: There are only five advanced instructs squads left, and presently the only "co-op" team operating is the Angels/Cubs.

    The league was originally established as a "parallel" league to the AFL (a sort of "junior AFL"), for players too advanced for traditional ("basic") instructs but who were unable to get placed on AFL rosters due to AFL player-limits.

  • He is but I would think it'd be better to start out with offense and then bring in Jackson and LaStella once they have a lead. Stella has very good PH #s too.