The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
My latest little pet project at Wiklifield after completeing the team-by-team transactions is to put together player pages on the entire Cubs organizations from the majors to the minors. I got through the basic info on the 40-man roster this weekend and have discovered with some very simple coding, that I can start putting together some interesting lists. One such list is how the Cubs' 40-man roster was put together, so I thought I'd share.
So here's the breakdown from the Cubs' 40-man roster found at Wiklifield (not to be confused with the 40-man roster maintained by Arizona Phil):
Amateur Free Agent Signings (5): Esmailin Caridad, Welington Castillo, Rafael Dolis, Angel Guzman, Carlos Marmol, Carlos Zambrano*
Drafted (10): Mitch Atkins, Tyler Colvin, Sam Fuld, Micah Hoffpauir, Sean Marshall, Blake Parker, Jeff Samardzija, Geovany Soto, Ryan Theriot, Randy Wells
Free Agents(5): Marlon Byrd, Ryan Dempster, Kosuke Fukudome, Ted Lilly, Alfonso Soriano
Minor League Free Agents(2): Andres Blanco, Koyie Hill
Rule 5 Draft(2): Mike Parisi, David Patton
Trades(13): James Adducci, Jeff Baker, Justin Berg, Mike Fontenot, John Gaub, Tom Gorzelanny, John Grabow*, Jeff Gray, Derrek Lee*, Marcos Mateo, Aramis Ramirez*, Carlos Silva*, Jeff Stevens
The * indicates players that were originally acquired via some other method than free agency, but then were either signed to extensions before hitting the open market or resigned once they did. There's also the case of Carlos Silva who was traded for a player signed through free agency and then basically a swap of big and bad contracts. That's 4 players that although originally acquired on the cheap, eventually cashed in big time with the Cubs and make it 5 with Silva who already cashed in with the Seattle Mariners.
So for this exercise, you could give a half credit for originally acquiring Lee, Grabow, Ramirez and Zambrano through cheaper methods than free agency, but were eventually paid free agent bucks (or close to it) by the Cubs. Silva you might as well call a free agent. So doing a little fuzzy math gets you 7.5 via free agency, 4.5 through amateur free agent signings and 10.5 via trades. That still means Hendry has certainly earned his "Trader Jim" moniker.
Of course, the next thing to do is compare this with other clubs, first in the division and then by payroll to see how Hendry compares to his peers. Breaking down the entire league would probably take more time than I have, but I did go through the St. Louis Cardinals. Here's what I came up with:
Drafted(23), Free Agents(9), Rule 5(1), Amateur Free Agents(2), Trades(3).
A lot of the free agents are bullpen arms which aren't going to break the bank and Chris Carpenter was signed on the cheap originally as a rehab project and then cashed in, very similarly to Ryan Dempster. I counted Ryan Ludwick as a free agent signing although I guess he could be considered a minor league free agent signing if you wanted to. Pujols was originally drafted and of course cashed in since then.
What does it all mean? I'm not sure other than I found it interesting and there's probably a 100 different ways to build a better mousetrap.
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Why Justin Berg has a shot to not suck
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 1:00pm Permalink
interesting article on evaluating sinkerballers
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/star...
here's Part 1
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/star...
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 1:10pm Permalink
This is an interesting concept, but in order to make it a useful tool, you're missing an awful lot of info, IMO.
Eventually, you'd want to look at all teams across a number of years to try to identify correlations between how rosters were constructed (relative to expenses available) and on-field performance.
Also, I think "trades" is definitely too broad of a category. Aramis Ramirez as a Cub and Bobby Hill as a Pirate are not really comparable. Even though both players were acquired via trade, the circumstances were so polar that they almost deserve to be coded as separate categories. That creates another problem - the subjectivity of whether a certain player's trade was a salary dump (Ramirez) or a shrewd move by management (Dontrelle Willis).
I like the idea that you've touched upon here, but there's a lot of missing information before this could be a useful tool.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 2:23pm Permalink
more an exercise of interest than anything...didn't mean to imply anything useful...at least not without going through the rest of the rosters.
BP had a neat article recently that I can't seem to find the link to, breaking down the number of wins each team got from premarket and postmarket players.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 2:30pm Permalink
Eric Byrnes released:
http://twitter.com/dbackswriter/statuses/7998...
At least he as a TV career.
Merkin Valdez traded
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 3:15pm Permalink
to Blue Jays...
More on Sheets
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/MLB-offsea...
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 3:40pm Permalink
Kinda eye-opening to see the Cards have outdrafted our 40 man roster 23-10.
You never really think of them as having top notch Minor league systems.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 3:54pm Permalink
what's interesting about the Cards is they seem to have absolutely no presence in Latin America, their 2 amateur free agent signings are Francisco Samuel from the D.R. and Josh Kinney who they signed from independent ball.
of course you need a more robust examination of the entire system, but thought that was intriguing.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 5:07pm Permalink
The difference between the two is explained almost entirely by drafted and traded. If the Cubs trade the guys they draft, which they do, then they wind up with fewer drafted players and more traded players.
Doug Davis signs with
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 3:55pm Permalink
Brewers, 1/4.25M with 6.5M option and 1M buyout
3/44
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 4:05pm Permalink
Looks like Carrie Muskat was weighting for everyone else who wanted to write about Geo Soto "losing" 40 lbs before she finally weighed in with this, Soto slims down prior to season .
An article about how Geo has slimmed down has turned into a rite of spring for Carrie. She wrote basically the same thing last year and the year before that and the year before that.
Last year's column, which you may have forgotten about, was called Soto maintains aggressive approach and even though Geo was around 20 lbs heavier than the year before at that time it didn't stop Carrie from writing this
But then Geo went off to join the WBC Puerto Rico team where he ballooned another 20lbs up to around 250.
4 springs in a row, same news about Soto. He's in great shape when he shows up. So, I'm just guessing but it looks to me like Geo's problem isn't showing up in great shape, it's keeping the weight off once he starts playing baseball again.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 4:17pm Permalink
heath bell empathizes.
Cubs blogs
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 4:57pm Permalink
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_s...
thanks to Carlos for the heads up to get us included
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 5:19pm Permalink
You know who would make a lot of sense as a RH setup man who could step in if Marmol continues to implode? Kevin Gregg.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 5:32pm Permalink
Kevin Gregg is steadily mediocre.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 9:41pm Permalink
You're right. I retract my suggestion of Kevin Gregg, and put forth Mariano Rivera as the reasonable target for an 8th inning reliever.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 10:15pm Permalink
lol I can see The Real Neal and I are both ready for the season to start already.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 10:27pm Permalink
Pssh. The season's over. At least there's always 2011.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 10:43pm Permalink
It will be heaven in two thousand eleven.
Pineiro not going to Mets
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 7:11pm Permalink
http://twitter.com/KenDavidoff/status/8007943374
Angels seem to be his top choice
http://twitter.com/KenDavidoff/status/8007710081
probably makes Mets more interested in Sheets unfortunately
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 7:24pm Permalink
cubs sign scott mcclain to a minor league deal...lulz.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 7:27pm Permalink
needed there Jason Dubois AAAA'er for the year...
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 7:36pm Permalink
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects...
signed C Mark Johnson as well
Clay Rapada signed with Rangers
Kiko and the Cubs
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 7:45pm Permalink
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/chicago-cu...
entered negotiations, he wants 2 years, Cubs offering 1
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 7:46pm Permalink
that took long enough to leak...wonder how long the years thing has been a sticking point.
Re:
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 9:46pm Permalink
Two year deal for a guy coming off rotator cuff issues, is Jim Hendry smart. He does K a lot of people though. Plus he has his own intro song:
http://www.clevver.com/music/video/138986/los...
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Thu, 01/21/2010 - 10:30am Permalink
Calero made $500,000 last year with the Marlins, and his highest salary ever was $1.6 million with the A's in 2007.
If Hendry offers $1.5 million (perhaps some incentives for games finished) on a one-year deal and signs Nady/Dye for around %3.5 million, the roster should be finished at close to $137 million.
Nady and Dye are two of the most liked and repsected players in the game, and either one would bring substantial intagibles to the clubhouse.
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Thu, 01/21/2010 - 10:43am Permalink
Los Lobos is probably my favorite band, and Kiko is probably their best album.
Excellent.
Peavy redux
on Wed, 01/20/2010 - 10:27pm Permalink
http://www.wrigleyville23.com/2010-articles/j...
99% Sure
on Thu, 01/21/2010 - 2:29am Permalink
According to Fox News in Phoenix: A source close to the Ricketts family says they want to keep the Cubs spring training in Mesa.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/sports/mlb/cu...
Re: The Jim Hendry Way to Build a 40-man Roster
on Thu, 01/21/2010 - 6:15am Permalink
The price of TCR stock just jumped in after-hours trading.
Re:
on Thu, 01/21/2010 - 10:44am Permalink
Did you just call bullish on Arizona Phil? : )