Cubs Extended Spring Training In Overdrive

Brandon May reached base four times, scored four runs, and drove-in two more, Jonathan Mota knocked-in three runs, and Charles Thomas had three hits, leading the EXST Cubs to a 15-7 drubbing of the EXST Giants at Fitch Park Field #3 this morning in Mesa.


Today was Cactus League Extended Spring Training (EXST) Opening Day in the Valley of the Sun, as the EXST Cubs played the first of 38 games they will be playing over the next eight weeks.


The Cubs Extended Spring Training squad consists of 50 players (40 active players plus ten more on injury rehab assignments). The Cubs EXST squad is managed by Boise manager Jody Davis, with AZL Cubs manager Juan Cabreja assisting Jo-DEE. Jeff Fassero and Rick Tronerud are the pitching coaches, and Ricardo Medina and Desi Wilson are the hitting coaches.


In addition to the hitting heroics by May, Mota, and Thomas, 20-year old Dominican RHP Luis Liria used his plus change-up to strike out six Giant hitters in three innings of work in relief, and side-armin’ LHP James Leverton struck out all four men he faced. RHP David Patton (who was up with the Cubs for much of last season) threw one inning, striking out the last two men he faced (both looking). Both Leverton and Patton were assigned to Extended Spring Training after they fell behind other pitchers in Minor League Camp, but both now look about ready to get their Letter of Transit out of Arizona.


Jonathan Mota is at Extended Spring Training learning the art of catching, something he just started doing at Minor League Camp last month. He will get assigned to a full-season squad once he gets more experience behind the plate. (Mota is eligible to be a Rule 55 Minor League FA post-2010).


Also, 21-year old outfielder Albert Hernandez (295/397/440 for DSL Cubs #1 in 2009) has arrived at Fitch Park from the Dominican Academy and was in the lineup today. (He did not report to Minor League Camp last month with the other DSL players who are making their U. S. debut in 2010).


Here is today’s abridged box score (EXST Cubs players only):


LINEUP:
1. Francisco Guzman, CF: 2-5 (6-3, 3-1, 1B, 1B, 3-U, 2 R, 2 RBI)
2. Arismendy Alcantara, SS: 2-5 (K, 1B, E-5, 3B, 6-3, 2 R, RBI)
3. Bobby Wagner, 1B: 1-4 (4-3, 2B, F-8 SF, 3-U, 5-3, R, RBI)
4. Brandon May, 3B: 2-3 (BB, 1B, 1B, 4-3, BB, 4 R, 2 RBI)
5. Charles Thomas, DH #1: 3-5 (F-8, 1B+E9, 1B, 6-3, 1B, R, RBI)
6a. Jonathan Mota, C-2B: 2-4 (K, E-6, 2B, 2B, 3 RBI)
6b. Wes Darvill, PH-2B: 1-1 (1B, RBI)
7. Albert Hernandez, RF: 1-5 (2B, 1-3, 6-3, K, F-9, R, RBI)
8a. D. J. Fitzgerald, DH #2: 2-3 (2B, K, BB, 2B, 2 R, RBI)
8b. Jae-Hoon Ha, C: 0-1 (6-3)
9a. Cody Shields, LF: 0-3 (E-1, K, K, R)
9b. Runey Davis, LF: 0-1 (1-3, HBP)
10a. Rafael Disla, 2B-DH: 2-4 (2B, 4-3, 1B, 3-U, R, 2 RBI, SB)
10b. Carlos Romero, PH: 0-1 (K)


PITCHERS
1. John Mincone – 2.2 IP, 4 H, 5 R (5 ER), 2 BB, 1 K, 1 WP, 1 BALK, 5/2 GO/FO, 47 pitches (30 strikes)
2. David Patton – 1.0 IP, 1 H 1 R (1 ER), 0 BB, 2 K, 0/1 GO/FO, 13 pitches (9 strikes)
3. Luis Liria – 3.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R (0 ER), 1 BB, 6 K, 1/1 GO/FO, 56 pitches (40 strikes)
4. James Leverton – 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K, 21 pitches (13 strikes)
5. Rogelio Carmona - 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K, 2/1 GO/FO, 10 pitches (6 strikes)


ERRORS: (1)
SS Arismendy Alcantara E-6 (two-base throwing error resulted in unearned run scoring)


CATCHERS DEFENSE:
Jonathan Mota: 0-2 CS
Jae-Hoon Ha: 0-2 CS, 1 PB


OUTFIELD ASSIST:
Francisco Guzman: Doubled runner off 1st base 8-6-3


ATTENDANCE: 4 (includes Giants bus driver)


WEATHER: Warm & VERY breezy

Comments

Not only another nice report from AZ but a little HTML tutorial for you kids as a bonus! Thanks for the attendance figures. Always appreciated!

Nice one on the attendance - The Cubs lineup consisted of a lot of guys whose names sounded like they should be familiar - sort of weird.

Awesome to hear things go going.

Some questions

Darvill - IIRC, someone last year said that he didn't have the arm strength to stay at short (might've been you actually). I'm just curious how he looks on the field. Seems like he's the kid that has good athleticism/speed now, and is expected to have/gain power as he ages, while losing said a lot of said athleticism. Is there any chance he has a shot at short? Is a positive comp perhaps Ryan Flaherty?

How does Albert Hernandez's frame look? IIRC, he was a skinny guy.

Do you have any idea if Charles Thomas will get time at 3rd? I know no one expects him to stick there, but considering the weakness at 3rd in the system, I wouldn't trying him there a bit longer.

What does Liria's arsenal look like? Well, mainly curious about his FB, because I don't recall. Also curious about how Carmona looked. FB/Slider guy, right? FB in the 92-94 range, from what I recall. I remember you pointing him out two years ago, and he's stuck in my mind since then.

Great to have you back. Thanks for the great info.

Submitted by toonsterwu on Tue, 04/13/2010 - 1:21am.
Awesome to hear things go going.

Some questions

Darvill - IIRC, someone last year said that he didn't have the arm strength to stay at short (might've been you actually). I'm just curious how he looks on the field. Seems like he's the kid that has good athleticism/speed now, and is expected to have/gain power as he ages, while losing said a lot of said athleticism. Is there any chance he has a shot at short? Is a positive comp perhaps Ryan Flaherty?

How does Albert Hernandez's frame look? IIRC, he was a skinny guy.

Do you have any idea if Charles Thomas will get time at 3rd? I know no one expects him to stick there, but considering the weakness at 3rd in the system, I wouldn't trying him there a bit longer.

What does Liria's arsenal look like? Well, mainly curious about his FB, because I don't recall. Also curious about how Carmona looked. FB/Slider guy, right? FB in the 92-94 range, from what I recall. I remember you pointing him out two years ago, and he's stuck in my mind since then.

Great to have you back. Thanks for the great info.

=====================================================

TOONSTER: Wes Darvill just turned 18, and he has lots of rough edges. He is a long-term project. I doubt VERY much that he can stay at SS, but he probably could play 2B (as he did yesterday), or maybe 1B or LF (but only if he develops some HR power). He has speed like LeMahieu and Flaherty, which is to say that although he's not a burner, he runs well but with a long stride. At the plate, he has a tendency to try and pull everything, which is OK if he hits HR, but maybe not so good if he doesn't develop HR power. We'll just have to wait to see how his body develops over the next two or three years, and (most importantly) how he responds to coaching.

Albert Hernandez has a medium build. I wouldn't call him skinny, but he's not Muscle Beach Party, either. He has quick wrists.

Luis Liria throws a low 90's fastball with an outstanding change-up and an OK breaking ball. He has the repertoire & stamina needed to be a starting pitcher.

Rogelio Carmona throws a 92-94 MPH fastball, and it's a "heavy" fastball, too. You don't see balls hit hard against him. He has pretty good control. He usually comes in throwing strikes. He doesn't mess around. The problem with guys like Carmona (and some other Latin pitchers who have been released over the past year or so, like D. Nunez, J. Pena, A. Santana, et al), is that while they have promise, they don't project as a starting pitcher, but they don't have the exceptional stuff (or one really outstanding pitch) you look for in a set-up guy or closer, either. The fact is, "A"-ball RH middle relievers--even ones that put up solid numbers--usually get released. You have to either be a starter, a closer, a set-up man, or a LHP to progress to AA. At least that's how it is in the Cubs system.

Thanks for the info.

Hmm ... Liria somewhat sounds like Robert Hernandez.

Houston hasn't won a game yet?

Nope. In their defense they've faced Lincecum, Cain, Zito, Halladay and Wainwright so far, but without Berkman they're probably a 65 win team.

Az Phil:

Are the young Koreans staying in the USA for the Summer? Thanks.

Submitted by Hagsag on Tue, 04/13/2010 - 7:41am.
Az Phil:

Are the young Koreans staying in the USA for the Summer? Thanks.

=========================================

HAGSAG: It appears that they all will be staying in the U. S, although it's always possible one or more might go home to attend school (as happened with Su-Min Jung last year).

I suspect RHP Jin-Keong Kim (who got a $1.2M bonus when he signed last month) will probably begin his pro career at the MLB Australian Academy and then get invited to Instructs (Fitch Park) post-2010. Several other Asian players (including Hak-Ju Lee) did that after signing with the Cubs.

BTW, the Cubs now have two Korean coaches, Woong-Chun Cho and Min-Kyu Sung. Cho played pro ball in Korea (he was a pitcher), and Sung is the bilingual OF who played college ball at Nebraska-Omaha, and then was signed by the Cubs as a NDFA player-coach to help mentor Dae-Eun Rhee at Peoria a couple of years ago. The Cubs also have a couple of Korean trainers at Fitch Park.

Hey Phil, first time poster but long time reader on here. I'm very appreciative of your stuff and very impressed with your dedication to learning names as well as scouting them out. It's not for everyone, making it all the more impressive.

Do you think you could shed some light on Arismendy Alcantara. I've been reading the DSL stuff on the Cubs the past couple years, but I don't really see any gems. I saw Alcantara but you never really know what to expect because these Caribbean players can be so volatile and inconsistent. In your opinion, do you see him being able to make strides like say, a Starlin Castro, or do you see him ending up like more of a Junior Lake. Obviously, I'm not all that familiar with his skills, but what do you see as his strong suits, what his weaknesses are (saw the error above), and what his ceiling could be. Obviously, the better shortstop prospects we have in the organization, really the better of you can be (as they can move around the infield, move to the outfield ie Bj Upton, etc.)

Also, did the Cubs come away impressed with Wagner Mateo when he worked with AA during the spring? Haven't really heard anything about him recently, maybe they just weren't impressed? I'm sure you'd know more about it than we do. Anxiously awaiting your reply. Thanks a ton

Submitted by W Flag on Tue, 04/13/2010 - 10:29am.
Hey Phil, first time poster but long time reader on here. I'm very appreciative of your stuff and very impressed with your dedication to learning names as well as scouting them out. It's not for everyone, making it all the more impressive.

Do you think you could shed some light on Arismendy Alcantara. I've been reading the DSL stuff on the Cubs the past couple years, but I don't really see any gems. I saw Alcantara but you never really know what to expect because these Caribbean players can be so volatile and inconsistent. In your opinion, do you see him being able to make strides like say, a Starlin Castro, or do you see him ending up like more of a Junior Lake. Obviously, I'm not all that familiar with his skills, but what do you see as his strong suits, what his weaknesses are (saw the error above), and what his ceiling could be. Obviously, the better shortstop prospects we have in the organization, really the better of you can be (as they can move around the infield, move to the outfield ie Bj Upton, etc.)

Also, did the Cubs come away impressed with Wagner Mateo when he worked with AA during the spring? Haven't really heard anything about him recently, maybe they just weren't impressed? I'm sure you'd know more about it than we do. Anxiously awaiting your reply. Thanks a ton

=====================================================

W FLAG: Unlike Castro, Lake or HJ Lee, Arismendy Alcantara is a little guy, sort of a water bug. He has plus-speed and a plus-arm, he has the range and arm needed to play SS (as well as 2B), and he looks like he can hit, too (he's a switch-hitter). He is only 18 years old, so he might still be maturing physically.

It's interesting that the Cubs brought their four fastest DSL guys (Bieneme, A. Ramirez, Alcantara, and Disla) to Minor League Camp this Spring, while waiting to bring hitters like A. Hernandez, X. Batista, Camarena, and Pestana up to Fitch until just the last week.

I think the Cubs were impressed with Wagner Mateo and would probably like to sign him. I thought he looked pretty good at the plate at Fitch Park (he had an extended BP session prior to the AA game), although his outfield defense needs work. I guess it's a matter of which team makes the best offer. So far I have heard nothing about when he will be making his decision, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Cubs end up signing him.

on that note, via rotoworld just a few minutes ago

http://twitter.com/MelissaSeguraSI/status/121...

DBacks expected to sign Mateo by end of month

Recent comments

Subscribe to Recent comments
The first 600 characters of the last 16 comments, click "View" to see rest of comment.
  • Manny Rondon faced 13 batters ... and got 10 to K. Not a bad day's work.

    Eric S 5 hours 47 min ago view
  • With several other Cubs hitters bailing out on curves today I think overall it wasn't being seen well. It for sure looked silly but a good breaking pitch coming at you and then breaking down isn't the easiest thing to see and has made many hitters look silly. Also Soler should have more walks this year but for quite a few called strikes that were actual balls and even the called strike he bailed on was borderline.

    johann 8 hours 45 min ago view
  • it's not like we're talking about a guy who's never had issues with pitch selection and seeing the ball over here. we're talking about a guy who has some rather legendary swing-and-misses at breaking stuff who's been exploited low. going forward it's worth paying attention to seeing if he can be exploited inside, too. he seriously bailed out of the box on a called strike. sure it was a good curve, but he obviously didn't see that well at all.

    crunch 8 hours 57 min ago view
  • It would seem like he is figuring it out now and it's really coming together. Really happy for him. Joe was really protecting him from the 3rd time through the order, but as you allude to, he is earning trust to go deeper.

    Wondering if has potential to become a #3 pitcher? His current stats certainly support it.

    The E-Man 9 hours 6 min ago view
  • That doesn't count b/c CRUNCH didn't see it on his 60" HDTV 5 times in replay.

    I have seen many players "bail out" when the ball looked like it was gonna hit them.

    Especially with the advent of the splitter and pitchers that can really get the ball to dance. Marmol, Sutter, Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling, Derek Lowe, Smoltz, Arrietta...

    These guys have made the best bail out only for the ball to come over the plate and be called a strike.

    No shame in that. The same way players whiff hard enough to cause them to drill a hole in the ground from spinning.

    The E-Man 9 hours 12 min ago view
  • a 60" TV with slow-motion replay and multiple looks on that replay helps...a lot...

    it's one thing to shy away like he did the 2nd time, it's another to bail out of the box on a called strike. that happened in the 1st one he pulled away from. he misjudged that one by a foot or so...

    crunch 9 hours 30 min ago view
  • Good Hendricks sure is fun to watch. He was hitting all his corners today and the Phillies couldn't do anything with his changeup.

    johann 10 hours 6 min ago view
  • Bryant and I believe Zobrist both did that too.

    johann 10 hours 24 min ago view
  • Soler BB acumen and plate awareness is excellent. Not unusual for even the best players to react as if they were about to hit them, "even though they weren't that close" from your vantage point sitting on your deck, or wherever.

    The E-Man 10 hours 26 min ago view
  • soler vs inside breaking balls is scary.

    he's had 2 inside curve balls today where he reacted as if they were about to hit him even though they weren't that close...one he bailed out of the box on, it was a called strike.

    crunch 10 hours 44 min ago view
  • j.urias optioned back to AAA...guess we wont be seeing him in the LAD series.

    crunch 10 hours 51 min ago view
  • so is him actually getting 2 hits in a game (2 doubles!)...first time he's even been on base 2 times in a game since 9 games ago on his 3/4, 1bb day.

    im ready for him to at least look like a 2-slot hitter since he's gonna be slotted there no matter what he does.

    crunch 11 hours 46 min ago view
  • That Heyward move to avoid Bryant's ball hit at him was a thing of beauty too.

    johann 12 hours 4 min ago view
  • 9 pitches in and this game already rules.

    HR, double...bryant's turn (who came out to a Kris Kross song for some horrible, horrible reason).

    ...2 run inning...zoobrest hitting streak at 14.

    crunch 12 hours 9 min ago view
  • First time I saw Herrera was yesterday. He took like 100 pitches, fouled off a ton off Lester.

    Very nice young player and perfect leadoff guy.

    The E-Man 13 hours 19 min ago view
  • Obviously not Phil. But he mentioned this on Wednesday.

    "Dominican Summer League (DSL) Opening Day is Saturday June 4th, so probably about 8-10 pitchers and position players presently at EXST in Mesa will be sent to the Cubs Dominican Academy (probably sometime this week) and be assigned to either DSL Cubs #1 or DSL Cubs #2."

    In the comments here: http://www.thecubreporter.com/05242016/cub-power-d...

    QuietMan 13 hours 58 min ago view