Game 129 Thread / Nationals @ Cubs (2 of 3)

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SP *Odalis Perez SP Ryan Dempster

5-9, 4.06, 83 K, 44 BB, 124 IP
14-5, 2.92, 149 K, 64 BB, 163.1 IP




2B #Emilio Bonificio LF Alfonso Soriano
LF *Willie Harris SS Ryan Theriot
3B Ryan Zimmerman 1B Derrek Lee
CF Lastings Milledge 3B Aramis Ramirez
1B Ronnie Belliard CF Reed Johnson
C Jesus Flores 2B Mark DeRosa
RF Austin Kearns C Geovany Soto
SS #Anderson Hernandez RF *Kosuke Fukudome
P *Odalis Perez P Ryan Dempster

Let us never speak of yesterday's game ever again. And damn, this game is early. And what's with all that pounding going outside my window? And why is everyone screaming? Anyone have any aspirin? 

(buries head under his pillow)

A rough but fun night for yours truly and the Angelfan wife drowning out yesterday's losses celebrating her birthday. It's gonna be another rough night if we lose again today.

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Well, if we get into any trouble today, we can just put Gallagher...wait, what? Any pesky red-head sightings?

EIGHT stranded on bases,3 innings.Ramirez wants to win,3run hr.4th inning!Wheres Edmonds? We need more!

Where's Edmonds?
Where he always is when the Cubs face a lefty: On the bench.

I suggested it the other day. Something's gotta give.
Lee is just not right. His swings have been increasingly awkward. Now he's
hurt himself after double-twisting himself up with a particularly bad one.

Unfortunately, Daryl Wide is Lee's replacement at first base, not Micah Hoffpauir.

Cubs underperformers since the All-Star break

Lee .242 .310 .359 .669
Fukudome .217 .298 .311 .609
Wide .136 .231 .409 .640

Well, I don't know who the fuck 'Wide' is but slugging .409 isn't that awful.

Anyway, I endorse DeRosa in the 3 spot - DeRosa for MVP!

Pretty impressive when you consider the fact the Cubs are 22-12 since the break despite 2 of their keyus going into the year in extended slumps.

Goes to show what great pitching and a deep lineup can do for you.

Dude! Your wife's birthday was yesterday? It was my birthday yesterday!

My wife and I also went out and are sick and hungover today.

Sick and hung over after a forgettable Cubs loss? par for the century, i think.

soriano has 9 of his 28 walks this month...with a week left.

heh...

Ryan Dempster shows again the accuracy of that New York Times piece that kept calling him the ace of the staff. Way to go, Ryan.

Lou's postgame comments suggested Fuku's due for a benching tomorrow - probably a little past due for that action. Lou also mentioned that he's not hitting either curves or fastballs and that "in this league, you have to at least be able to do one of those." Amen.

play him vs. the lefty, sit him vs. the righty.

okay...

his swing is similar from both sides, but his power isn't.

dirk hayhurst, 27 year old 8th round pick from 2003...writer of baseball america's "non-prospect blog" thing last year...he's getting his callup to SD after a nice AAA season.

ha.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/07p...

4ip 5h 2bb 2k 3er ...and the loss

welcome to the bigs. side note...zito gets win #8.

FYI he didn't get the loss. tied 3-3 well after he left.

oops and thx.

Random stat:
Since the All-star break
Cubs 22-12
Brewers 22-12
Cardinals 19-15

All 3 teams beating the teams they should be beating on a regular basis.

Cubs 6-1 vs. the Brewers and the Cardinals

yup, definitely beating the teams they should be beating.

Carrie Muskat quotes Oneri Fleita regarding Felix Pie's progress in her column today:

Fleita said he also was encouraged by outfielder Felix Pie, who was batting .284 at Iowa with nine homers and 47 RBIs.

"It looks like he's more patient," Fleita said. "The numbers are more consistent."

I dunno, this doesn't look consistent to me. May was truly abysmal. June was mediocre. And after a red-hot July, he's really fallen off. And patient? There's no indication of that at all.

May .169 .239 .338 .577
June .282 .316 .451 .767
July .373 .413 .588 1.001
August .255 .286 .340 .626

Felix's LH vs RH splits are still extreme.

LHP .235 .267 .346 .613
RHP .304 .352 .500 .852

But before you start thinking he could fit into
the CF platoon against right handed pitching
look at his AAA batting splits, starters vs. relievers.

Pie vs starting pitching .213 .269 .348 .617
Pie vs relief pitching .402 .429 .636 1.065

He's feasting on the mop up men. Again not really
what anyone would call consistent hitting, and more
what you might expect from someone plateauing below
expectations. AAAA.

His problems go far far far beyond patience. Against big-league pitchers he can't afford to be patient because he has to start his swing before he can recognize the pitch. A more compact swing would net him less power but give him better pitch reaction. Any word on if he's shortened up his absurd swing?

He'll be a minor leaguer until he figures out he's not a home run hitter and not being a home run hitter isn't really all that terrible. Everyone knows he has speed, he should use it in his offensive game.

Despite all the protests and assurances against, that sounds a lot like one Donald Corey Patterson.

woops, double post.

I mentioned in chat that you can get the mlb.com audio and video feeds to play in any player you like. This is the latest thread, so I'll post it here.

I use this at work where I have a laptop with Linux installed, a Firefox browser, and I use the VLC audio player that comes with the installation. I don't use the video feed with this player, because I'm at work, and because VLC doesn't seem to be able to handle the video quality. I'll demonstrate using these items, but you should be able to use other tools that can do the same things. You might be using a Mac with a different player, for example.

The key thing to remember is that the mlb audio/video uses a URL to get your stream, and it contains the location of the stream plus your encrypted authentication info. As long as you can get this URL, you can then swipe it in your chosen audio/video player. The URL is only good for a short time, about a minute I think, so you have to be fast once you get the URL for the stream.

Here's how to do it:

Open a Firefox browser, and install the Firebug plugin. You can get it here. Firebug prints out all of your browser activity, including what URLs you go to. Install the plugin and restart Firefox.

Enable Firebug by choosing Tools -> Firebug and making sure the "Disable Firebug" item is unchecked.

Navigate to the mlb site and select the audio/video item you want to listen to (e.g., "WGN" under the radio selections).

A new window opens with a login form for you to log into your account to listen to the stream.

Right click the frame that contains the login form and select "Inspect Element". You'll get the Firebug window in the lower half of the browser window. Select the "Console" tab.

Log into your account.

In the console, you'll get a line like: mURL:http://web.servicebureau.net/conf/meta?averylongst...

The URL you want begins after "mURL:". The rest is the URL you need to obtain your audio/video stream (i.e. http://web.servicebureau.net etc.). Swipe that into your player. In VLC, it's done by selecting File -> Open Network Stream...

It may take you a few attempts at first to get it to work right because you might spend some time trying to find that URL in the console, figure out how to copy it, the URL might run off the end of the console because the font's too big, and so on. If you don't login successfully with that URL, you'll have to close your browser and try again, because mlb.com issues cookies that are good for as long as your browser is open, and the URL contains your authentication info. By closing and reopening your browser, you'll end up with a new valid stream URL when you log in.

I hope this is useful information.

thanks for the tip...I'll have to try it.

25 for the playoffs and 29 for the division.

I thought we all agreed no mentioning of magic numbers until it's down to... zero?

discussing the magic number is not a jinx. It's merely a count of the games the cubs need to win to go to the playoffs. by no means does is imply that they have won anything. in fact it's quite the opposite.

but it's MAGIC, chad. MAGIC! There's gotta be something to that.

What's the Cubs' gay witchcraft number?

1-900-GAY-CHAD

Pie needs to work on his strikeout to BB ratio, which has never been good his entire career. Without dramatic improvements in those area's he will be a career minor leaguer or "gasp" a career track like Corey Patterson.

And the main reason he has those poor ratio's is he still can't hit breaking pitches.

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  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 10 min 28 sec ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 18 min 7 sec ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 29 min 51 sec ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 31 min 40 sec ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 53 min 59 sec ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 54 min 27 sec ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 1 hour 3 min ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 23 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 1 hour 53 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 1 hour 57 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 27 sec ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 20 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 2 hours 23 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 2 hours 25 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 2 hours 28 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 2 hours 30 min ago view