2010 Rule 4 Draft
The MLB Rule 4 Draft (AKA “First-Year Player Draft”) starts at 7 PM ET tomorrow (Monday June 7th) and will continue Tuesday and Wednesday. The first round (plus the 1st supplemental round) will be televised “live” on the MLB network Monday night, with the balance of the draft to be conducted via conference call (rounds 2-30 starting at noon ET on Tuesday, and rounds 31-50 starting at noon ET on Wednesday).
The Cubs will have the 16th pick in the 1st round, followed by the 65th overall pick (2nd round), pick #97 overall (3rd round), and #130 overall (4th round), and then every 30 picks (#160, #190, #220, #250, etc) after that until the 50 rounds are completed. More than 1,500 players will be selected by the 30 MLB clubs before the drafting is finished.
Clubs have until August 15th to sign draft picks who have college eligibility remaining, but there is no deadline for signing college seniors who have exhausted their eligibility. Players who are not selected in the draft can sign with any club as a Non-Drafted Free-Agent (NDFA), with the same deadline as drafted players applying to NDFA.
If a club fails to sign a 1st (or 2nd) round pick in a given year, it gets a replacement pick one slot lower in the 1st (or 2nd) round of the following year's draft. (Not signing a 3rd round pick nets a club a compensation pick between the 3rd and 4th rounds in the following year's draft).
Projected 1st round picks “connected” to the Cubs in recent mock drafts include catcher Justin O’Conner (Cowan HS - Muncie, IN), RHP Asher Wojciechowski (The Citadel), RHP Alex Wimmers (Ohio State), and RHP Karsten Whitson (Chipley HS - Chipley, FL). O‘Connor has one of the best arms in the draft, and could be moved to RHP if he doesn’t hit enough to stay behind the plate. The fact that the Cubs think nothing of moving a catcher to pitcher makes O‘Conner the “logical“ Cubs choice if he is available when the Cubs pick at #16.
I strongly suspect the Cubs will take a catcher somewhere in the first two rounds (at #16 or at #65), with LH hitting Kellin Deglan (a teammate of Cubs 2009 5th round pick SS Wes Darvill on the 2009 Canadian Junior National Team) a likely target if he is available at #65 and if the Cubs don't draft O'Conner in the 1st round. Switch-hitting catcher Micah Gibbs (LSU) is another possibility for the Cubs at #65 if the Cubs don't get a shot at O'Conner or Deglan .
The Cubs did give an extended work-out to Big South Conference Player of the Year (and Illinois native) CF Nate Roberts (High Point U.) at Fitch Park on Friday (he even played in an EXST game, getting an RBI single and two stolen bases), but he probably wouldn‘t get selected until maybe the 3rd or 4th round (if he‘s still available).
The Cubs have a history of drafting players they like two years in a row, most-recently TCU RHP Andrew Cashner (30th round in 2007 and then 1st round in 2008), Clemson 3B Marquez Smith (35th round in 2006 and then 8th round in 2007). and Stanford OF Sam Fuld (24th round in 2003 and then 10th round in 2004), so don’t be surprised if the Cubs select a player they drafted (but did not sign) a year ago. 2009 31st round pick 1B Andrew Clark (U. of Louisville), 20th round pick LHP Eric Ericson (U. of Miami), 34th round pick RHP Rett Varner (UT-Arlington), and 16th round pick OF Keenyn Walker (Central Arizona JC) are four players who were drafted but not signed by the Cubs last year who might get the Cubs attention again this time around (Clark reportedly turned down a six-figure offer from the Cubs at the deadline last August).
Last year, the Cubs signed 31 of their 50 selections, including their first 12 picks, and 25 of their first 29. Of the 31 who signed, two had their contracts voided, four have subsequently been released, and one retired. 14 of the Cubs 50 selections in the 2009 Rule 4 Draft were high school players, and the Cubs signed four of them (3rd round pick LHP Austin Kirk, 5th round pick SS Wes Darvill, 7th round selection IF-OF Blair Springfield, and 19th round pick C Sergio Burruel). The Cubs selected only eight high school players in the 2007 draft and eight in the 2008 draft (16 combined) and signed only five of the 16 (3B Josh Vitters and RHP Ryan Acosta in 2007, and C-IF Matt Cerda, INF Logan Watkins, and RHP Tarlandus Mitchell in 2008). The Cubs have also given $6M+ in signing bonuses to amateur players from Korea, Australia, and Taiwan over the past three years, making the First-Year Player Draft somewhat less important than it would be if the Cubs were not actively pursuing players in Asia and Australia.
This will be Wilken’s fifth draft since joining the Cubs as Scouting Director in December 2005.
Here are last year's Cubs Rule 4 selections, and where they are now:
NOTE: Players who signed with Cubs are in bold
* bats or throws left
# bats both
2009 RULE 4 DRAFT
1. * Brett Jackson, OF (Cal) – SIGNED (CF at Daytona)
2. D. J. Lemahieu, SS (LSU) - SIGNED (INF at Daytona)
3. * Austin Kirk, P (Owasso HS - Owasso, OK) - SIGNED (at Fitch Park EXST)
4. * Chris Rusin, P (U. of Kentucky) – SIGNED (at Daytona)
5. * Wes Darvill, SS (Brentwood SS - Langley, BC) - SIGNED (at Fitch Park EXST)
6. * Brooks Raley, P/OF (Texas A&M) - SIGNED (LHP at Daytona)
7. Blair Springfield, SS (MacArthur HS - Decatur, IL) - SIGNED (IF-OF at Fitch Park EXST)
8. Robert Whitenack, P (SUNY - Old Westbury) - SIGNED (at Peoria)
9. * Richard Jones, C (The Citadel) – SIGNED (1B at Fitch Park EXST)
10. Charles Thomas, 3B (Edward Waters College) - SIGNED (at Peoria)
11. * John Mincone, P (Suffolk County CC) – SIGNED (at Fitch Park EXST)
12. Runey Davis, OF (Howard JC) – SIGNED (at Fitch Park EXST)
13. Chad Taylor, SS/P (Jefferson HS – Tampa, FL) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at U. of South Florida)
14. Danny Keefe, P (U. of Tampa) – SIGNED (at Fitch Park EXST)
15. Cody Shields, OF (Auburn U. - Montgomery) – SIGNED (at Fitch Park EXST)
16. # Keenyn Walker, OF (Judge Memorial Catholic HS – Salt Lake City, UT) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at Central Arizona JC)
17. B. J. Dail, P (Mt. Olive College) - SIGNED (contract voided - subsequently signed with Gateway Grizzlies - Frontier League)
18. Matt Williams, C (Duke) - SIGNED (retired post-2009)
19. * Sergio Burruel, C (Trevor Browne HS – Phoenix, AZ) - SIGNED (at Fitch Park EXST)
20. * Eric Erickson, P (U. of Miami) - DID NOT SIGN
21. Greg Rohan, 1B (Kent State) – SIGNED (1B-3B-LF at Peoria)
22. D. J. Fitzgerald, SS (Dyersburg State CC) – SIGNED (LF at Peoria)
23. Jeffrey Pruitt, OF (Cal State – Northridge) - SIGNED (contract voided - subsequently signed with Florida Marlins)
24. Gerardo Esquivel, P (De La Salle Institute – Chicago, IL) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at Kansas Sate)
25. * Justin Bour, 1B (George Mason) – SIGNED (at Peoria)
26. Steve Grife, P (Mercyhurst College) – SIGNED (at Peoria)
27. Corey Martin, P (Western Carolina) - SIGNED (at Fitch Park EXST)
28. Jordan Petraitis, 3B (Miami U. - Ohio) – SIGNED (released March 2010)
29. Tim Clubb, P (Missouri State) – SIGNED (released April 2010 - subsequently signed with Gateway Grizzlies - Frontier League)
30. Daniel Sheppard, C (Downers Grove North HS – Downers Grove, IL) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at U. of Iowa)
31. * Andrew Clark, 1B (U. of Louisville) - DID NOT SIGN
32. Trey McNutt, P (Shelton State CC) - SIGNED (at Peoria)
33. * John Lambert, P (NC State) - DID NOT SIGN
34. Rett Varner, P/OF (UT – Arlington) - DID NOT SIGN
35. Kevin David, C (Oklahoma State) - DID NOT SIGN
36. Brandon May, 2B (U. of Alabama) – SIGNED (3B-1B at Fitch Park EXST)
37. * Peter Mooney, SS (Palm Beach CC) - DID NOT SIGN
38. * Bobby Wagner, 3B (Panola JC) - SIGNED (C-1B at Fitch Park EXST)
39. Nick Struck, P (Mt. Hood CC) - SIGNED (at Peoria)
40. Eric Whaley, P (Cardinal Gibbons HS – Ft. Lauderdale, FL) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at LSU)
41. Jake Schmidt, P (Concordia U. – St. Paul) - SIGNED (released March 2010 - subsequently signed with St. Paul Saints - Northern League)
42. Trey Ford, SS (Chaparral HS – Scottsdale, AZ) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at South Mountain CC)
43. Colin Kaepernick, P (U. of Nevada) - DID NOT SIGN
44. Frank DeJiulio, P (Daytona State CC) - DID NOT SIGN
45. Addison Dunn, P (Warren Area HS – Warren, PA) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at Kent State)
46. * Glenn Cook, OF (U. of Miami) - SIGNED (released post-2009)
47. Joey Jocketty, 3B (Ladue Horton Watkins HS – St. Louis, MO) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at Miami U. - Ohio)
48. John Nasshan, P (Niles West HS – Skokie, IL) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at Bradley)
49. Christian Segar, CF (McQuaid Jesuit HS – Brighton, NY) - DID NOT SIGN (enrolled at Bradley)
50. Zach Cleveland, P (Central Arizona JC) - DID NOT SIGN (transferred to U. of New Mexico)
2008 NDFA:
* Daley Cox, P (Santa Fe CC) - SIGNED (released post-2009)
Jesse Ginley, P (St. Petersburg CC) - SIGNED (at Fitch Park EXST)
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Comments
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Sun, 06/06/2010 - 10:58pm Permalink
Az Phil who do you think is the next Cub youngster to make it
to Chicago?
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Sun, 06/06/2010 - 11:14pm Permalink
Submitted by rokfish on Sun, 06/06/2010 - 9:58pm.
Az Phil who do you think is the next Cub youngster to make it
to Chicago?
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ROKFISH: Probably Welington Castillo.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 9:48am Permalink
I would have thought Jackson, particuarly if the Cubs start trading veterans.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 9:50am Permalink
Where do I lodge my official "no" vote against taking a high school catcher? Joe Mauer's been good... and I am sure I'm forgetting a player or two, but historically high school catchers are pretty much the worst possible pick you can make.
More impact bats is good though, if they think they can find one.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 10:01am Permalink
I'm just shooting from the hip here, but a lot of guys start out as catchers and end up playing other positions. Marmol comes to mind. Maybe the scouts saw something in his game they liked?
Otherwise, yes, I agree... find a slugger or a starter.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 10:09am Permalink
I should have been clearer, specifically talking about the first round of the draft. There's plenty of guys who get drafted or signed as catchers and move to pitcher - particuarly with the Cubs. And there's plenty of college catchers who do just fine - a lot lately it seems like. High School catchers drafted in the first round, however, have produced the worst value of any position/level at the bigs.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 10:07am Permalink
Soto, Yadier Molina, McCann, Kendall to name a few current ones...
unless you're expecting Johnny Bench or a 'roided out Piazza as the measure of a good pick.
I would think the emergence of Cashner and Colvin would give Wilken the benefit of the doubt for a bit.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 10:37am Permalink
ROB G: I've got the TCR Draft Tracker Ticker tuned up and ready to go for all 50 rounds.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 11:51am Permalink
I was counting on it. :)
thanks as always.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 12:32pm Permalink
But will we see you guys in Parachat?
And why's it called parachat again? It seems just like regular chat.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 12:33pm Permalink
probably not me, I'm swamped at work.
Parachat is the software, name just stuck.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 10:14am Permalink
Submitted by The Real Neal on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 8:50am.
Where do I lodge my official "no" vote against taking a high school catcher? Joe Mauer's been good... and I am sure I'm forgetting a player or two, but historically high school catchers are pretty much the worst possible pick you can make.
More impact bats is good though, if they think they can find one.
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REAL NEAL: One of the reasons the Cubs like Kellin Deglan is that he has played against international competition and against pro teams (in Spring Training), and is considered more polished & advanced than the typical U. S. HS kid. Deglan also worked out during this past off-season with Justin Morneau, which reportedly helped show him what he needs to do to develop his body and helped to light a fire under his ass.
I think Deglan could actualy be the Cubs 1st round pick, especially if Justin O'Conner and Asher Wojciechocwski are gone. If those two are gone at 16, it would probably come down to whether the Cubs prefer a HS pitcher (Karsten Whitson) or catcher (Kellin Deglan) at 16 (presuming they are still on the board).
But O'Conner would probably be their #1 choice, just because he can pitch if he washes out as a catcher (he was a 3B/RHP in HS before switching to catcher mid-season).
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 11:05am Permalink
That "he can move the mound" didn't work out so well with Harvey. I think in the first round if you're rationalizing your pick like that, you're probably on the wrong guy. You want a guy that everyone agrees is going to be wearing a ML Cubs uniform in four years at the outside.
It should be interesting - Wilken's been all over the board in terms of what he takes in the first round. That kid from Ohio State is my favorite among who's been mentioned, but I haven't really done much homework on the draft this year.
Edit - holy run-on-sentences, Batman!
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 10:29am Permalink
Theriot 2B, Baker 3B, Lee 1B, Nady RF, Byrd CF, Soriano LF, Soto C, Castro SS, Silva P
lefty going for Pirates, dana Eveland
Buster on twitter says White Sox are sending out signals they're open for business.
Wow...
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 11:50am Permalink
Pirates radio guy on XM is running through the numbers and is impressed that Eveland is 2-0 with a good ERA vs. Chicago this year.
Problem is it's his first start against the Cubs and in the NL, those were against White Sox.
After a very long pause, his partner on the broadcast says, "There are 2 teams in Chicago".
Good radio.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 11:57am Permalink
now Pirates TV guys with the funny...
Byrd picked off and they're wondering why Soriano didn't take 2nd...
"I don't know what Soriano was doing...other than not much."
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 12:10pm Permalink
WTF was Byrd doing? Naturally, Soto gets a hit right afterwards (whic woudl have scored Byrd), followed by a DP. Another scoring chance brutally botched by your 2010 Cubs. "Year 1". Aye Carumba.
When was the last time Castro pulled the ball?
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 12:36pm Permalink
He hit one to pretty deep CF yesterday, fwiw. As a Cubs fan worrying about Castro's plate approach is probably about #18 on my things that bother me list.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:59pm Permalink
Last 17 ABs, not including today where he is 0 for 3 with an intentional BB: .118/.158/.118
And I have never seen Castro pull a ball yet, although I did see he made an out to SS the other day.
Still, I am actually with you on this. For some reason I'm not worried about his approach to the plate. The league is making some adjustments on Castro but I think he'll be okay.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:34pm Permalink
Not sure how this link will work, but at cubs.com you can look at the hit chart for him at any park. If you look at Wrigley, he actually is very evenly spread out with a lot of outs to third and short.
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/stats/individual_...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:38pm Permalink
I don't remember him having any trouble pulling the ball during Spring Training. (Not directed at you, Neal.)
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:40pm Permalink
one of the reasons castro's low-power slap hitting works is you can't defend him even on a slight shift. he works the whole park.
i hope it's intentional rather than just swinging and seeing where it ends up.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 11:52am Permalink
glad they fixed the scheduling from last year of the draft.
I think last year it went up against a full slate of games and possibly the NBA finals.
Pretty empty schedule tonight all around.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 12:36pm Permalink
Silva well on his way to NL Comeback Player of the Year...
baseball is funny.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 12:57pm Permalink
Two outs into the 5th inning, he's thrown 68 pitches, of which 51 have been strikes.
God bless him.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:01pm Permalink
Apparently there is a jinx related to mentioning strike-throwing in progress that is similar to the jinx from talking about a no-hitter in progress.
My apologies.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:46pm Permalink
Clearly the most logical move to make at this point is a 5-year backloaded $90 million dollar contract for Silva...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:07pm Permalink
Brewers release Jeff Suppan...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:22pm Permalink
We should snatch him up - look what we've done with his idol, Carlos "The Stopper" Silva. 2.84 ERA - and they say Dave Duncan is good!
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:26pm Permalink
BA mock draft
Whitson 9th to Padres, O'Connor goes 10th to A's, Wimmers 12th to Reds, Wojo 23rd to Marlins among some of the names previously mentioned.
has Cubs taking RHP Deck McGuire out of Georgia Tech
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/dr...
O'Connor mentioned as high as 7th with the Mets
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:43pm Permalink
With a name like Deck McGuire, how do you not become a power-hitting OF/1B?
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:30pm Permalink
Theriot doing a good impression of a leadoff hitter today.
Byrd waking up again.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:31pm Permalink
cubs trying to avoid first winless season in Pittsburgh in 124 years according to sun times.
Silva could sell Slim Fast, I'm buying .
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:45pm Permalink
Why have we played so many games in Pittsburg, anyway?
Also, why is our hitting coach playing catcher for them? That seems unfair.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:39pm Permalink
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/07/2010-mlb-d...
chat with Frankie Piliere who seems pretty connected, scanned through but couldn't find any Cubs info. Someone here should ask him something.
His mock draft...
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/07/mlb-mock-d...
He has O'Connor going 7th to Mets
anyone care to post Law's pick for the Cubs with access?
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:52pm Permalink
Stevens gets the set-up man opportunity today...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:56pm Permalink
...and Soriano tries to blow it for him.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 1:56pm Permalink
Adam Everett DFA'd by Tigres, time to move Theriot to them.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:14pm Permalink
Definitely.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:03pm Permalink
On ESPN's play by play:
Sean Marshall pitching for Pittsburgh
Wow, I hope we got McCutchen for him.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:06pm Permalink
Nope. Iwamura.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:12pm Permalink
and millions of Marmol fantasy owners curse with the Cubs taking a 4-run lead
-edit- 5-run lead
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:13pm Permalink
That's why I don't draft Cubs.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:15pm Permalink
I'll trade u Colvin or Byrd.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:26pm Permalink
Deal.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:19pm Permalink
marshall stays in to try and get the save...
gets the first 2 outs and a double for Crosby.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:16pm Permalink
be nice if the CubsInsider would actually give out insider info...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:19pm Permalink
carlos silva...
really?
i mean...
really?
damn.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:28pm Permalink
Too bad I didn't say "I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up leading the team in ERA this year". My brother and I watched him make his first ST start - he looked like he was pitching for a HR Derby.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:30pm Permalink
im at a total loss of words on what silva is doing. every time he looks like he might slip in late innings he goes to his next start and does that "wtf" good stuff all over again. go figure...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:49pm Permalink
That's the thing, it's not even good stuff... it's just a sinker with plenty of junk and he throws it in the zone. The formula is just so simple it's brilliant.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:23pm Permalink
Every time I think I've seen it all in baseball -- there goes a Carlos Silva. I mean if we had a real GM, what do you do? Keep him through 2011 or trade him? And who has the willingness to trade value in return for him?
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:26pm Permalink
Carlos Silva: lower ERA than Lincecum, more W's than Carpenter, and a better WHIP than Santana. Who'da thunk?
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:39pm Permalink
Let's not play a similar game with Lee and Ramirez.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:50pm Permalink
Lee, similar success as BP, Ramirez, as good as Martha Coakley.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:28pm Permalink
Take that, Pennsylvania!
Flyers and Pirates both drubbed by Chicago in less than 24 hours.
Haw!
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:30pm Permalink
Wonder what today's actual attendance was -- according to Pat in the first inning: "Oh, about 1,00 folks or so as of now"
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:18pm Permalink
Judd and Otto guessed 9,000 officially. After they did, Pat said "There's not anywhere near 9,000 folks in the stand today. No chance. Not even half that. Maybe 2,500."
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 2:45pm Permalink
what's fear of crowds? agorophobia? maybe that's the problem w/ this team...heard an account elsewhere that makes hughes' estimate sound verrry generous...if silva could toss in a cg now & then he'd be downright fergiejenkinslike w/ all the strikethrowing he does...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:15pm Permalink
I think that agrorophobia is fear of sweaters.
That has got to be the first mention of Silva and Fergie in the same sentence... unless it was something like "Carlos is always listening to that new Fergie album".
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:17pm Permalink
"Here is a list of Cubs pitchers over the last 50 years....Silva, Zambrano, Lilly....Jenkins....etc"
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:31pm Permalink
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php...
Has O'Connor going 10th, and Whitson 17th to the Rays, calling him a lot better than the 17th player in the draft.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:33pm Permalink
money or not i still can't believe kaleb cowart is going in the high 20s or 2nd round on people's lists.
i'll believe it when i see it. i think some of these projections don't have a proper pulse.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:39pm Permalink
BP and Heyman are the only 2 that have him in the first round, both saying a tough sign and both saying it would be the Rockies taking him.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:43pm Permalink
he is gonna demand a lot of money. he can go to FSU, have the time of his life, and get paid bigtime anyway a few years from now.
1/2 the teams scouted him as a pitcher and 1/2 as a hitter...if one fails he could easily slip into another barring arm injury.
the guy's arm is just amazing...pitching aside....whether he ends up in the OF or at 3rd he can get rid of the ball like classic furcal when he was throwing the ball 10000000000 mph off flat ground.
he's a hitting machine...he understands and adjusts his mechanics...this is stuff "kids" just don't do, but he realized long before the pressure mounted that he should do this. it wasn't enough to just hit .500-.700 in school...he doesn't rest his skills.
mature dude...i'm a big fan (in case you can't tell by now).
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 3:36pm Permalink
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers...
Heyman's mock draft, although I don't think that's really his expertise.
Josh Sale, OF, Bishop Blanchet High (Ore.)
Sale seems to be going much higher in other mock drafts.
This could be Cubs?
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 4:15pm Permalink
@Kevin_Goldstein Team in teens: "It's a joke, we're ranking 11 f---in' guys in here because we have no idea what's happening in front of us."
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 4:33pm Permalink
bwhahaha. awesome and to the point...
WHere he should have hit most of last year...
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 4:19pm Permalink
milton moved to 2 spot in mariners lineup with figgins going to 9th
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 4:38pm Permalink
a paul "gangsta vibes" sullivan picture of silva warming up today...
"silva warming up at empty PNC Park."
http://twitpic.com/1usyft
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 5:09pm Permalink
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=...
updated afternoon mock draft
O'Connors to Cubs at 16th
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 5:13pm Permalink
y.grandal keeps dropping by the day.
also, i can't believe the astros are so dead set on getting deshields and his speed/D game for a 1st rounder when there's power and pitching out there to be had. so many people are calling for astros/deshields and it seems no one wants to get in their way.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 5:45pm Permalink
allegedy grandal had a pre-arranged deal with royals at #4 to start the day and then another team said they'd pay more and he backed out.
deshields was heavy with astros at #8 but has dropped to the 20's on most of these mock drafts
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 5:47pm Permalink
yeah, astros are expected to snag them with the 19th after wisely realizing there weren't a lot of teams wanting to throw 1st round money at a speed/D guy.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 5:54pm Permalink
whoops, forgot astros have 2 picks...
heymand says blue jays like deshields as well
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 5:42pm Permalink
mlb network has blocked 3.5 hours for this "1st round draft pick" exaggerated TV experience.
it could be 60-90 minutes before the cubs even pick. wee.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:11pm Permalink
oh yeah...they are dragging this crap out for no f'n reason other than to fill time.
mega mega artificially lame.
gonna check out CIN/SF game. =p
ps- WAS is immediately "turning" harper into an OF rather than C
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:13pm Permalink
not one mention of his attitude issues by the studio guys
why they have hart, reynolds and gammons there instead of at least mayo or callis I don't understand
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:17pm Permalink
what's worse is they do have both mayo and callis on the roll today in the same studio. they were interviewing them pre-draft. they should be doing the breakdowns, though...or at least helping.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:18pm Permalink
by my math, Cubs will pick around 7:25 pm CST if everyone takes the full 5 minutes which they usually do.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:25pm Permalink
quick/clean draft tracker via mlb mobile...
http://m.mlb.com/draft/?f=round&o=&p=1&r=30
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:28pm Permalink
colon a surprise pick at 4, Pilliere is saying Pomeranz will go #5 to Indians.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:31pm Permalink
pom's weird...his game is almost all fastball and his curveball looks/acts like a curve, but instead of using his wrist he flicks the ball with a finger to give it the spin. he does this to take the strain off his wrists and credits his dad with teaching it to him.
Twitter rumors
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:37pm Permalink
loux to dbacks, then hearing harvey to mets at 7 with choice going #10 to A's.
keith law says A's would move o'conner to 3b if they take him
Re: Twitter rumors
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:46pm Permalink
Mayo says Astros will take Deshields at #8
-edit- Toronto, Texas and Rays were interested if they didn't take him there and waited until #19
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 6:54pm Permalink
Whitson goes #9, first guy linked to Cubs to go...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:00pm Permalink
Zack Cox w/o a home, wonder if Cubs would go for another 3bmen, otherwise O'Conner or Grandal also still available.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:04pm Permalink
law says Deck McGuire going to Jays...thinks O'Connor to Cubs.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:09pm Permalink
Grandal going to Reds...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:13pm Permalink
Chris Sale going to WSox according to Callis
Goldstein chat
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:21pm Permalink
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:25pm Permalink
Jake Skole going to Rangers...Cubs on the clock.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:29pm Permalink
Keith Law says O'Connor, possibly Vitek
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:31pm Permalink
surprise surprise..
Callis says Hayden Simpson to Cubs
http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/1566734...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:32pm Permalink
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:34pm Permalink
roy oswalt 2.0 hehe...
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:35pm Permalink
Callis says he throws mid to upper 90's and kept his velocity as season went on...
also thinks someone else must have been on him to take him so high.
should leave money for a signability drop in later rounds.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:36pm Permalink
yeah, the cubs just drafted a projected 2nd rounder...sweet.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Tue, 06/08/2010 - 6:07am Permalink
You're talking about Tyler Colvin?
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:33pm Permalink
Haden Simpson? Callis and Mayo aren't overly critical, but they don't seem too high on the pick. At least he was in the top 200 on BA's list.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:36pm Permalink
D'oH...
H. Simpson?
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 9:11pm Permalink
Homer's son from a previous marriage?
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:36pm Permalink
goldstein not enthused...
Kevin Goldstein: Our first complete and utter shocker in the draft as the Cubs take Heyden Simpson, a D-II pitcher from Arkansas. Just floored. Undersized righty with very good velo, but not a ton of other stuff.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:38pm Permalink
Three different spellings on just a few posts. That's enough for me to give a big thumbs up on this pick.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:40pm Permalink
should leave money for a signability drop in later rounds.
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great...hopefully they are scouting baseball players and not wide receivers
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:41pm Permalink
The MLB.com report on the kid is pretty telling:
http://m.mlb.com/draft/8416/
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:42pm Permalink
that's because he was a projected 2nd to 4th round pick.
it's kinda...insane at this point.
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:44pm Permalink
crunch's boy Cowart goes at #18 to angels
Re: 2010 Rule 4 Draft
on Mon, 06/07/2010 - 7:44pm Permalink
finally the draft starts making sense. =p