VICTORY!!!

The Blackhawks celebrate Z's first win since returning to the rotation.

Congrats to the Hawks and drawing the attention away from the Cubs for a few more days.

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Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 06/09/2010 - 11:29pm

5 scoreless for Cashner to start with 4 k's, 0 bb's and 2 H allowed

Submitted by Newport
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 12:17am

Welcome to the 8th inning kid.

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 12:28am

How sweet it is!!

Submitted by H_Vaughn
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 5:27am

Every Chicago pro sports team has now won a championship in my lifetime except the one I spend the most time, energy and money on.

Submitted by John Beasley
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 7:35am

Congrats to all you Hawks fans. I'm happy for the city.

Submitted by MikeC
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 8:56am

Well it's nice that Cashner is being used in the role that helps this franchise the most instead of having blinders on to the world and remaining a starter.

Submitted by Charlie
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 10:21am

Blinders on? Like pretending this team is going somewhere this year depending upon whether Cashner starts or pitches in the bullpen?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 10:35am

ha.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 12:04pm

Cashner needs to be a starter. Bro can pitch.

I agree it doesn't matter this year, though. I mean in the long term.

Submitted by Charlie
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 1:23pm

If the Cubs are far enough out of it in late August and September for Lou and Hendry to admit they are out of it, Cash, Jackson, and maybe even Thomas Diamond (depending upon trades, his play in AAA at that point) should have opportunities to pitch in the rotation if they haven't hit their innings quota for the year, and other guys ought to shift from rotation to bullpen to cut down on their innings and save their arms a bit (Dempster? Zambrano? Wells?).

[I agree with you, Ryno. Consider him a starter until/unless he gives you sufficient reason to think he's not. Starters are much more valuable.]

Submitted by Cubster
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 9:10am

Since this is a congrats Blackhawks thread...

The actual Stanley Cup has been modified over the years, anyone know much about that history?

Here's a pic I found of Redwing Sid Abel holding the cup in 1950. Many more layers (9) in the bottom portion of the cup. Obviously they had to rework it so that all the players can get their names engraved but the cup itself looks the same size. I wasn't sure if they just made the cup bigger by adding a bottom layer when they ran out of room for names.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/Mahjo...

Submitted by GDex
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 9:32am

The Wiki entry includes several pictures showing how the design of the cup's base changed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Cup

Submitted by Mike Wellman
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 10:20am

CUBS HOIST SOTO'S CUP!
Geo Pokes 2 of Team's 5 HR's vs. Sorry Brewers

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 11:59am

rumor alert
cup and hawks will be at wrigley tomorrow .

/hope it's true

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 12:31pm

just don't let Alex Gonzalez near it, he'd be sure to drop it.

Submitted by Ryno
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 12:03pm

"The Blackhawks celebrate Z's first win since returning to the rotation."

haha... clever.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 12:43pm

lineup for Thurs

Fuku, Theriot, Byrd, Tracy, Nady, Colvin, Soto, Castro, Dempster

Submitted by The E-Man
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 1:11pm

You can bet Demp is hung over today. MAny buddies on this Hawks team as you all know.

HE will either pitch lights-out, or will suck mightily.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:33pm

B.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 1:39pm

blue angels are in chicago for their many-times-a-year show of taxpayer military waste.

woooooooooooooooooooooooosh.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:16pm

Byrd catches a huge break.

Earlier in the game Weeks took 2b on him on a sac fly by Fielder. Now with 1st/3rd and 1 out Nady flies deep to center with Byrd on 1b and decided to try and make-up for it but would have been nailed before Theriot's run would have scored, but Weeks dropped the ball.

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:38pm

Did you catch his "wait til next year" comment?
http://marlonbyrd.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/0...

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:56pm

so he's a realist?

yeah, what an asshole.

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:24pm

I sure don't think Marlon is an asshole.

Except for his throws that tail to the right (another one today..) I love the guy.

Submitted by Charlie
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:49pm

Thank goodness Weeks can't hold onto the ball.

Submitted by billybucks
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:24pm

Thank goodness we got Chad Tracy's bat back up from Iowa.

2 AB, 2 K's.
Against Dave Bush.

Sheesh.

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:36pm

Can you say "AAAA" ball player...

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:33pm

You're talking about Dave Bush, right?

Submitted by billybucks
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:45pm

Brewers pitchers are killing us with their bats....

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:54pm

chad tracy...you suck so much.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:55pm

how not to do a rundown by the 2010 cubs.

Submitted by Charlie
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 2:59pm

Remember the Barrett v. Rollins rundown? Good times.

[How the hell do you bounce that throw, anyway?!]

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:01pm

expect it any time tracy has to throw at a target he's running toward...he's pretty bad about it, imo...still, that was pathetically tragic.

Submitted by Tito
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:07pm

How did the Brewers score their third run?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:17pm

the botched run-down mentioned above...

grounder to 2nd with runners on 1st/2nd. Theriot goes to first when Fielder stopped and Nady had him at 2b, but Weeks was now at 3b so Fielder tried to get in a rundown.

Weeks took off and Castro threw home, Soto then gunned it to 3b and Tracy tried to throw home on the run and bounced it and Soto didn't come up with it. Weeks did get clocked though which was nice.

Submitted by Tito
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:19pm

Thanks, no mention of how it scored on Yahoo.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:13pm

WOO!!!!!!!

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:15pm

Nady seems healed.

Submitted by sbwilliams
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:23pm

Cardinals signed Jeff Suppan... I normally would be pretty happy about this but when I think about the history of the Cardinals doing something with unproductive pitchers I get a little scared.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 7:13pm

At least Suppan supposedly has back problems. Then again he probably wins the damn Cy Young. Oh how I dislike Dave Duncan.

Submitted by billybucks
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:26pm

"C. Tracy struck out swinging" -- times 3. Against Dave Bush. Dave Frigging Bush.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:27pm

how is that fat-as-hell brewers fan near home plate fitting into his seat?

Submitted by billybucks
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:50pm

Think Gorz is having fun?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 3:52pm

Sloth was screwed by the Castro/Nady error. Although could have not walked Weeks or Fielder.

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 4:24pm

jeff baker ph 4 colvin?????

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 4:42pm

Howry in

this can only end in 2 ways, bad or horrific.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 4:45pm

more cubs defensive fail in the bottom 9th...awesome.

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 4:47pm

My love for MarByrd is dying as I write.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 4:55pm

cubs hair kid #1

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 5:05pm

something tells me howry isn't much of a 2 inning guy...

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 5:06pm

okay...screw this game. what the hell...so much cubbery.

MIL deserved to win this one.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 5:07pm

you just have to laugh.

or kill yourself.

Nady's a dumb-ass

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 5:10pm

Was that the ball that sailed over third or his arm?

Submitted by Cubster
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 5:18pm

It was Stanley's cup (cub fan Stosh tossed his beer cup in disgust)

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 6:11pm

did anyone here know that Byrd is leading the league in BA?

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 6:43pm

I know he was second going into last night's game behind Prado.

Why is Bob Howry on the team again? Diamond, Jackson, Schlitter... all of these guys would have given the Cubs a better chance to win today (though sounds like the defense was top notch as well).

Notice how the Brewers were able to keep their lineup intact, and the Cubs wound up with Howry batting second, Hill batting 9th and Soriano batting 7th?

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 6:48pm

this game was full of stupid all around.

why howry was pitching a 2nd inning, i dunno...don't know why after striking out 3 times they had a hit and run on with byrd/tracy, but it kept tracy from following up his 3 Ks with a double play, though.

lot of walks...cruddy D...

Submitted by WISCGRAD
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 8:09pm

Why are you complaining about decisions made by a fat old man making $3 million?!?!? Those decision's don't matter, right?

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 8:51pm

no, it's about how similar the 500K-1m ones are to the 3-5+m ones.

besides, the walks + cruddy D killed the game and 1 weird decision turned out okay, anyway. there's other weird decisions not mentioned that didn't.

it was just a really stupid game.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 7:11pm

Ok, I'm still grinning ear to ear from last night, but now I can switch into Cubs mode.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 8:19pm

why would you want to do that to yourself?

Submitted by The Joe
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 9:04pm

fart

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 9:32pm

lol!

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 9:42pm

Kerry blows a save against the Red Sox.

-edit- but gets the win when Bard blows it filling in for Papelbon.

Submitted by jacos
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 9:50pm

After the cup and the hawks leave wrigley tomorrow, do the city and the fans a favor and napalm the place

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 10:14pm

"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."

well at least Mordecai Hill is honest...

Submitted by The Joe
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 10:27pm

Wow.

Submitted by QuietMan
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 8:58am

From Phil Rogers -

The Cubs have committed 43 errors, tied for the eighth-most in the majors. But the really telling statistic is unearned runs allowed. The Cubs have allowed 32 of those already, a pace that would produce 86 over 162 games. The only team that has allowed more is Washington (34).

Those unearned runs have been as much a part of the 2010 story for Lou Piniella's team as a bad bullpen and disappointing run production. And there's a trend here that says bad things about Piniella's ability to address issues.

In 2007, his first year in Chicago, the Cubs allowed 40 unearned runs. Those totals have climbed to 47 in '08, 56 in '09 and the projected 86 in '10.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/06/...

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 9:17am

That's assuming that unearned runs follow a straight line projection.

Submitted by QuietMan
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 10:38pm

Toyota sign is up.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/06/...

(With picture.)

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 11:04pm

It's hideous. And it's not what the Ricketts said they were going to put up. The sign was supposed to be lower and wider. Like this

http://chicagoist.com/attachments/Marcus%20Gi...

Submitted by The Joe
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 11:32pm

fart

Submitted by Ryno
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 9:39am

I smell a new meme.

Submitted by The Joe
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 1:14pm

nice.

fart just sums up how I felt about the game (and the season) as well as how much I care about a new sign.

Submitted by Ryno
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 9:41am

Can we recall the 2010 season now?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 06/10/2010 - 11:13pm

Kendry Morales officially out for the year now.

Get on the phone Hendry!!

j/k, I'm sure with the way the Angels are playing they'll wait it out until they get the deal and player they want.

Submitted by Cubster
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 7:07am

caller on wscr said Randy Wells (and Ryan Dempster) were partying with the Blackhawks at The Underground until the wee hours...Wells left early (3 am) because he's starting today, Dempster closed down the place.

...expect another "wobbly" outing for wells. James Russell you have an appointment with the 2nd inning.

...expect any pics of Dempster to be with his sunglasses on.

http://www.theundergroundchicago.com/

Submitted by Mike Wellman
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:46am

i like koyie hill...

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 12:59pm

So do I. For me, he replaced the pitching coach a while ago. When a pitcher is having problems, they put him in Hill's care.

But now he seems to be going after Piniella's and Trammel's jobs. Well, more power to him. I like Lou, but he's sloppy about defense.

Hill's outburst was the strongest since the one Bradley got kicked off the team for. But Hill won't be disciplined, more likely he'll be rewarded, because he was talking about something real.

Submitted by The Joe
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 1:16pm

"But Hill won't be disciplined, more likely he'll be rewarded, because he was talking about something real."

and because he's white

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Fri, 06/11/2010 - 10:02pm

and because he adds 5 mph to a pitcher's fastball. you just can't teach that.

you also can't teach his whiteness.

you also can't teach a crappy backup catcher to call out the rest of his team.

koyie hill is kinda' like ryan theriot. neither do anything well. yet cubs fans still still like them.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Sat, 06/12/2010 - 1:52am

"you just can't teach that."

Well, you can teach a pitcher to trust his fastball and throw it more often. The current pitching coach can't, but maybe a catcher could. You can remind a slider-happy late-inning reliever, whose occasional fastball was hitting 91-92, that he used to throw 96-97. It's not exactly adding 5 mph to a pitcher's fastball, but you're right, it sounds funnier that way.

As to Theriot and Hill not doing anything well:

I think Theriot was pretty good at positioning himself at shortstop, so that his complete lack of range wasn't as glaring as it might have been. If that sounds like damning with faint praise, I'm not his biggest fan right now. He is 13 out of 15 in stolen base attempts, which is keeping him in the lineup and near the top of the order. Nobody else steals bases on this team. So he does that pretty well, at least lately.

Hill was 40% in caught-stealings last year, compared to Soto's 20%. Hill's CS numbers are down this year, but it may be because he tends to come in the game when Marmol is pitching. (They must think he catches Marmol well. Also Carlos Silva.) Marmol doesn't usually bother to hold runners. Since 2007 he has had 19 bases stolen on him, against 1 caught-stealing. Maybe holding runners is one of the fundamentals that Hill was talking about.

Anyway, Hill will still be here next year. I'm not so sure about Theriot, the manager and the pitching coach.

Submitted by Charlie
on Sat, 06/12/2010 - 8:44am

I just lol'd imagining having this conversation with somebody like Francisco Rodriguez.

Catcher: Hey man, we're in a bind here. You used to throw 98 miles an hour all the time!

K Rod: And?

Catcher: That was awesome.

K Rod: Hey, fuck you, man.

Maybe Hill should try it with Zambrano. He used to throw 98.

There's a difference between reminding a guy to rely on the fastball and somehow making a guy recover lost velocity.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Sat, 06/12/2010 - 10:45am

I'd just to like to know when Marmol was throwing in the low 90's?

Arguments are easier to win when you make up stuff.

fwiw, Marmol is throwing his fastball even less this year than last year.

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