Zambrano Returning to Bullpen...Once He Returns to Cubs

From Paul Sullivan in the Tribune:

After Carlos Zambrano returns to the Cubs following his suspension—the Cubs are trying to find out from MLB how long they can be suspend him and whether they'll have to play with 24 men for the duration—he'll be returning to the bullpen. Tom Gorzelanny is returning to the starting rotation.

Also, Lou Piniella and Assistant General Manager Randy Bush were none too pleased that Zambrano had dinner with Ozzie Guillen last night instead of reflecting on what an ass he was yesterday afternoon. I'm thinking that if Carlos was self-aware enough to reflect on his behavior, he might not have acted that way in the first place. Just a thought.

Cubs lineup vs. Freddy Garcia (8-3, 4.85; 4-0, 1.25 all-time vs. Cubs)
Fukudome 9, Byrd 8, Lee DH, Nady 3, Ramirez 5, Soriano 7, Castro 6, Soto 2, Theriot 4

White Sox lineup vs. Carlos Silva (8-2, 3.01; 4-11, 5.33 all-time vs. Sox)
Pierre 7, Vizquel 5, Rios 8, Konerko 3, Quentin 9, Kotsay DH, Ramirez 6, Castro 2, Beckham 4

Comments

I went 0-3 with two strike outs yesterday. I am batting .165 on the season, and batting fifth in the lineup for the Chicago Cubs. Who am I?

I have a .404 OBP following yesterday's game. I am batting eighth for the Chicago Cubs. Who am I?

I am a major league manager, who's deteriorating mental abilities have reinforced addled senior stereotypes to the detriment of millions of Americans. Who am I?

Jacque Jones, Matt Murton, Leo Durocher.

Do I win?

yahtzee!

HAAHAAHAHAHAAAA

messy, expensive situation.

Rickets: So, has Z had these anger management issues prior to yesterday's outburst?

Hendry: Well.....yes. He once fought with his catcher in the dugout and then punched him in the clubhouse...........Oh....and he destroyed a Gatorade machine before.

Rickets: And this was before or after you gave him a five-year, no trade, guaranteed $91.5M contract?

Hendry: Uh..........before.

Rickets: Jim, you're fired.

(Now, back to reality)

My understanding is that Hendry/Crane Kenney got contract extensions through 2012 as a condition of the sale. So Rickets would have to eat that money on top of most of the $45M left on Z's contract if he wanted do what most upper management type's would do in this situation.

.........and the hits just keep on playing.

Actually, the Special Olympians of Baseball Owners known as the Ricketts Kidz approved the extensions prior to the sale.

Saddled with monster contracts to declining talent, the economy in the tank etc. it would have been hard to pick a worse time to buy this team. The Ricketts' old man must be saying, "You did what with all the money I made? Jesus, the kid with the bikes might end up being the smart one after all."

From June 18

Nils (Darien, CT): Is McNutt having sucess with smoke and mirrors or does his stuff match his results? What kind of ceiling does he have?

J.J. Cooper: It's solid plus stuff, especially his fastball. A lot of people may think he's come out of nowhere, but if you have the Prospect Handbook you'll see he was No. 16 in the Cubs system coming into the year, which is a very high ranking for a 32nd-round pick with 28 pro innings—that right there tells you he's a serious prospect as he ranked ahead of every other Cubs' 2009 draftee except for their first and second-round picks. This isn't some soft-tosser tricking people, he can blow guys away with his stuff.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospect...

Eric Patterson traded to Red Sox.

Andy McPhail has got to be pissed.

<------Pushes self away from table. I'm done. Fuck you, thank you for wasting my time. See ya in March shitfuckers.

If I were the Rickettseseses, I would stay in Africa, they've got some BIG decisions to make when they get back. Best case scenario, they hijacked a diamond mine, killed all of the children working there and come home with a plane full of diamonds to help offset the contracts of Z, Fukerdome, and Soriano.

Man, this crap is better than watching Cops with a cheeto-stained wife beater on.

My respect for DLee has been firmly returned, which means he'll probably be traded within the week.

I hate to say it, but will trading Z be the 'spark' that turns the 2010 Cubs into a baseball team??

This isn't even fun anymore. We repeatedly get our asses beat. We have in-house fighting. There is no passion. There is no will to succeed. We aren't even good enough to suck. Of the many seasons in which there was pain (to watch an absolute joke of a team perform), embarrassment, and ineptness - all of which are key components to the term 'Cubbery,' this has to go down as one of the worst 1st halves to start a Cubs season.
I can't tell you the last time I was actually excited to sit down, relax and crack open a cold one to watch a game this season. My DVR has ceased to record any games. My "W' car flag has the same amount of dust as does the Cubs win column. I have even white-outed the W and now just let the white flag wave. This is fricken pathetic. We need a major overhaul. If we get to .500 this year it will be a miracle. As much as I love the vets who have been the faces of our beloved team for the past 5 years - decade, it's time to tear down the walls and start fresh. I mean, shit, what's another 5-10 years without a championship?

"I can't tell you the last time I was actually excited to sit down, relax and crack open a cold one to watch a game this season."

me, too.

i'm not one for giving up early and i don't think the cubs are 100% done...but it's pretty boring baseball all around. i don't mind missing games as much when i don't have much hope for things "righting" themselves.

there's not much on the horizon giving the 2010 a lot of hope unless aram regains his stroke and even then they're they have to get to .500 before we care how far they are from 1st place or the wild card.

Another 'fantasy' baseball article from Yahoo. Sounds like he should work for TCR. You make more money than Yahoo, right?

"Of course this isn't the first time Hendry has publicly devalued an asset that he should be shopping around the league. That's his signature mo—

Well, no, the no-trade clause is really his signature move. But he has other tricks in the repertoire as well, and this is one of 'em."

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_arc...

i wonder if he'd waive his NTC?

i keed.

Cubs are being somewhat consistent with how they treated Bradley last year. That's nice.

On a sidenote, it's admirable how they are still pretending that the next 89 games or so aren't just an exhibition.

Bradley didn't actually go after his teammates. He got suspended for giving an interview.

So if Bradley netted us a Cy Young contender, we should be a lock to trade Z for 2010 NL MVP Delmon Young.

Ron Santo mentioned during his guest appearance on the Fox broadcast--God, please don't let the Cubs hire Mark Grace for color duties!--that Derrek Lee has been having back problems since returning on the long flight from Seattle. Can't help but wonder if that is now the party line to explain why he didn't dive after Juan Pierre's ground ball on Friday.

Regardless, if Lee's back is that bad, why was he in the lineup and why was Colvin sitting last night?

And why didn't he bend over to make the catch that caused us to blow the save in the 7th inning Thursday in Seattle? I don't know why they released Tracy, they should have kept him for at least 15 days while Lee went on the DL.

Lee's been playing first base like his back is out for about a month now. And, rightly or wrongly, that's one of the reasons Z went off on him.

Off season priorities:

1. Bullpen... yet again. And no, Samardzija doesn't count. Go get a couple boring veteran arms that you can rely on to not screw up too many
games.

2. Find a 3B.

3. Find a decent 2B, like Orlando Hudson or something.

?

#1 is already solved, we have Grabow (and for only $4.8 million next year).

#2 is going to be difficult since Ramirez will surely exercise his player option. Like it or not, he is not going to be on the bench next year. Given his career track record, he'll be starting and given the opportunity to rebound from this dismal season.

I'll be honest, I don't think ARam's season is lost yet. Just a thought.

Well his season totals are going to be really crappy, but he could come back.

I am assuming that Ryno thinks Aramis will be moving to first next year and that's why we need a third basemen...

Wrongway's suggestion of Carlos Lee for Zambrano could make some sense for us, they could have Nady too.

I've never been a CarLee fan, but if memory serves he absolutley CRUSHES at Wrigley

It's because he's facing Cubs pitchers, not the ball park

Well, that is not entirely true. He has a career OPS of .964 in Wrigley, compared to .917 against the Cubs in other ballparks. He slugs .616 in Wrigley compared to .529 against the Cubs elsewhere. His OPS in Minute Maid is .907, so he does even better at Wrigley than at home.

I have a jeff blauser jersey I can sell you

The other difference is that the Cubs pitching has been pretty damned good throughout most of Carlos Lee's career.

First, why do you own a Jeff Blauser jersey? I hope it was given to you as a gift or something.

Second, Carlos Lee will be 35 years old next year, is hitting .230, can't play defense, and we already have a glut of outfielders. So I don't want him.

But I merely wanted to point out that his success in Wrigley goes beyond his success against the Cubs.

jk on jersey

blauser was the great cub killer of the 90's. cubs got him and he became aaron miles.

I remember some people thought clee could be turned into a 3rd baseman a few years back.

good times.

As terrible as Blauser was once he came to Chicago. He did still manage to get on base at .340 or better both seasons.

Just didn't have much power left in the bat once he got to Chicago.

He was Theriot with much higher expectations.

My priority list
#1 First Base. I don't see anybody in the system to take Derrick Lee's spot. Resigning Lee to a reasonable 1 year deal or finding his replacement is in my book off priority numero uno. Lee has been one of my favorite players for years but I prefer the latter of finding a replacement.

#2 Starting pitching. Assuming Big Z and Lilly are gone, the rotation looks like Dempster, Wells, Silva, Groz and a rookie. I'm starting to get a Rich Hill feeling for Wells, I can't believe Silva. Also, by bringing in a quality #2-3 type pitcher, we aren't watering down the bullpen further. If used properly (aka never pitching Howry), a backend of Marshall, Cashner and Marmol could be very effective.

Third base is Arams. No need to waste time, energy or keystrokes on it at this point. Just have a quality back up player so when Aram does get hurt, its not the end of the season.

For years, eh? When are you going to learn how to spell his name?

My bad, I have a proper noun deficiency.

I don't think filling specific holes will be quite so important this offseason.

Moving the last of the "bloated" contracts needs to be priority 1. Anyone that isn't helping in 2012 should be on the block right now.

Lee
Lilly
Grabow
Theriot
Baker
Fontenot
Silva
Aramis
Fukudome
Soriano
Marlon Byrd
Dempster
Zambrano

Tear this thing completely down as far as possible this offseason. Instead of overpaying vets to fill this spot or that spot, just be terrible for a season.

Then spend really heavy in the draft/latin America/Pacific Rim and so forth.

Lyle Overbay or Adrian Beltre aren't the answers to 2011. Spending 20 million untapped talent will be the answer.

No more chasing our tails.

Az Phil, if you're lurking...Marquis Smith had a 4-4 night playing 3B for Iowa. Can he play enough defense at 3B to stick when the Cubs rip the guts out of the mlb roster and go on a youth movement?

Knowing Hendry, he'll probably get released and signed by St. Louis, since Milwaukee already has a decent 3Ber.

From a MLB Trade Rumors write up on a Buster Olney blog:

•The Cubs have tried to deal with Carlos Zambrano's past outbursts because of his talent and his $91.5MM contract. After the latest blow-up though, it appears the club has run out of patience. According to Olney, there's "an overriding perception within the organization" that Zambrano hasn't cared about living up to his end of the deal.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/06/olneys-...

The Olney piece is subscriber only.

Here's how Hendry dealt with Z's past outbursts. He gaven him a $91.5 million no trade contract!

Z has always been like this. He's been in full meltdown mode since he first came up.

What an effed up organization....

Man, you ever wonder how different things might have been if Prior hadn't run into Marcus Giles and Wood's elbow didn't blow up? Zambrano was great at being the third best option. Not so much as the ace.

With a couple legit aces in Prior and Wood, Hendry could have traded Z at peak value. Instead, Z got pushed into being the staff ace and got a ridiculous contract.

Oh, what could have been...

i really liked how Z handled himself being the "3rd story" behind prior/wood while pretty quietly establishing himself as a top-of-rotation starter. some guys wouldn't be able to handle being the guy who's actually showing up everyday and doing it while 2 guys who can't stay healthy get more talk.

I have to believe Brett Jackson and Aaron Shafer are due for promotion any day now. Jackson is now hitting .316/.420/.517 and is leading or in the top three of just about every offensive statistics in the FSL. Shafer's ERA is a miniscule 0.96 and he's sporting a WHIP of 0.84.

When Jackson moves to Tennessee, I'm curious as to how the Cubs will deal with Campana. He's played well enough (.333/.395/.396) for promotion, but the Iowa outfield is already pretty packed.

I thought Jackson was promoted a few days ago?

Should happen any day now. The other organizations are starting to complain: "One league observer says, "He's officially too good for High-A" according to Baseball Prospectus.

3-3 yesterday all doubles and a walk.

Miles says Jackson and Rafael Dolis were promoted to AA Tenn today:

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/4285

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...

McNutt and Ty Wright also promoted.

Busy day for Cubs transactions

Jason Dubois placed on 7 day DL

RHP Oswaldo Martinez sent down to Daytona from Tenn. Baseball America glamor boy McNutt to Daytona from Peoria.

RHP Manolin DeLeon called up to Peoria from AZL Cubs

LHP Jokisch, 2B Pierre LePage, and RHP Aaron Kurcz called up to Boise from AZL Cubs.

Jesse Ginley sent down to AZL Cubs from Boise.

Jackson 2-5 with a HR in his AA debut. Let the hype machine begin!

I have to admit, I hated the pick, at the time, and he still strikes out too much for my taste, but watching him a bit in ST, you can see he has all the physical tools to be a star MLB player. Right now he projects to me as Rob Deer with a little bit more speed.

"Right now he projects to me as Rob Deer " the pioneering advocate of the 4 strike rule change.

uggh, Rob Deer.

Ok...um...wasn't Rob Deer a 150K+ a year guy, who hit for low average and low OBP, a RF-1B type?

Sheesh Neal..lol..damning with faint praise...lol.

OK, how about Mike Cameron with a little less speed?

Better, for sure, and given the Cubs 1st round draft history with position players, a Mike Cameron is like drafting a future HOF'er. Jackson's SB% (12-19) at 63% right now ... calling Dr. Denier, stat!

I would bet that Colvin would give Cameron a run for his money, speed-wise, even "back in the day".

I'd take that bet, since Cameron has alwasy been regarded as a "true" center fielder and had 40 stolen base speed. We were talking about Jackson, not Colvin, though.

Chris Archer probably deserves a promotion as well: He had a rough April but has sparkled in May and June. Overall numbers: 66.1 IP 76/24 K/BB ERA 3.12 (1.90 in last 10 starts) WHIP 1.10

COLWIN.

too bad he can't hit lefties.

Over rated p.o.s.

he's looking like a guy that can hit 30+ homers rather than the guy expected to hit 20-25hr...hope it translates in 2011+.

For about 90% other organizations probably. But w Cubs they will have transformed into a middle reliever by as break next year.

Colvin's HR was his 10th in 135 AB's
Soriano has 11 in 229
Lee has 10 in 275

I understand people saying that Colvin's success is due to Lou playing him in favorable matchups, but I was actually excited watching a Cubs game (probably the third time this year after seeing Castro and Cashner's debut) when he crushed that bomb on Danks

len is no longer allowed to talk about justin beiber.

bob is speechless.

len used the word "hot" to refer to him...it was all downhill from there.

Liked it better when he'd baffle Bob with talk of the Replacements and Tommy Keene.

Hey!

Hits! Runs!

'doobie' gets dl'd w/a 'sprained ankle' despite homering in each of last 2 games w/ the wright promo...they're protecting joe hicks' iowa hr record like it was aaron's...

if they were protecting it, they would release him.

Yeah, if anything, this shows the opposite. Rather than release him, they DL him for a bit until the roster spot reopens up so he can return to his pursuit.

My guess, especially now, is that he'll get his final shot this September as Hendry will "reward" him.

How did Dubois get a pitch-hit at bat during yesterday's game while on the 7-day DL? Box score has Dubois listed along with Ty Wright's 0-3.

Submitted by Eric S on Mon, 06/28/2010 - 10:03am.
How did Dubois get a pitch-hit at bat during yesterday's game while on the 7-day DL? Box score has Dubois listed along with Ty Wright's 0-3.

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ERIC S: Apparently Jason Dubois remained on the Iowa Cubs Active List for one additional game until Jeff Stevens gets officially activated. And of course Dubois going on the DL is one of those "stash the veteran on the 7-day DL as a player-coach" things the Cubs do every year (Mark Johnson is the other one at Iowa).

Ariz Phil - Thanks for the follow-up. Really enjoy your game writeups and appreciate the updates on the rosters, whose been released/cut, etc.

Theriot, Colvin, Byrd, Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Soto, Castro, Wells

vs.

Tabata, Crosby, McCutchen, Jones, Milledge, Alvarez, Doumit, Cedeno, Maholm.

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  • bless your heart. *pinches cheeks*

    crunch 4 hours 18 min ago view
  • real shame I missed this week's episode of The Crunch Reporter.

    It's highly unusual.

    It does matter a little.

    It matters much less than you think.

     

     

    Rob G. 4 hours 21 min ago view
  • four winds field is awesome. it's crazy how minor league parks have "grown up" since the 80s/90s and that park was one of the late-80s models that showed a low-capacity ballpark could look like you're at something other than a highschool baseball game.

    crunch 5 hours 26 min ago view
  • On another topic....I returned to South Bend last night for the 2nd time this season (still haven't tried either the deep-fried mac & cheese sandwich nor "The Porknado", as the drive home is over an hour and that could get ugly), and was pleasantly surprised to find D. Underwood pitching in a rehab start. He looked good -- although, to be fair, these are low-A hitters -- fastball consistently at 94-95 (if the SB scoreboard is to be believed -- several pitches were clocked in the 30s...) and with good location.

    billybucks 6 hours 35 min ago view
  • he gains nothing, no advantage, no saving of resources, nothing...there is not a cost/benefit tradeoff...him letting the running game go on around him for others to control isn't gaining him an advantage elsewhere. it's putting him at a disadvantage even if it's not cashed in with a run.

    crunch 9 hours 15 min ago view
  • And out of respect for the rest of TCR, I'm done on this. I'm sure I'm not the only one in the other camp, but time to let it go. (Until the next Lester start. I kid.)

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 18 min ago view
  • He is putting himself at a disadvanage. But how much of one relative to the rest of his game? He's not Justin Germano -- he's inarguably one of the best SPs in baseball, issue or not. It would be more of thing to discuss ad nauseum if it constantly caused him to give up runs and lose games. But it doesn't.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 28 min ago view
  • shouting down my points about lester with "well, it didn't hurt" is like saying it doesn't matter if a guy starts out walking 3 guys every inning as long it's followed by a K and a double play.

    it's like elevating ERA and wins to a high level while ignoring what it took to get there.

    crunch 9 hours 34 min ago view
  • I'm asking how much it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this year. Do you have that answer?

    I legitimately don't recall you answering that quesion, apart from the condescending silliness you just posted. So if you did answer specifically about the impact of Lester's issue, I'd like to re-read it. Thanks.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 47 min ago view
  • if runner = on base and pitcher = j.lester then lead = large

    if lead = large then probability of extra base on following hit > average of mean

    okay, enough of that silliness...

    ...you can read more on the thread i copy/pasted this from the last time you decided you needed to talk to me about me.

    crunch 9 hours 53 min ago view
  • Thank you for your answer.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 9 hours 57 min ago view
  • bless your heart.

    crunch 9 hours 58 min ago view
  • I don't recall you answering my question about quantifying how it has hurt Lester and the Cubs this season, apart from one guy scoring on a sac fly. Can you direct me to your answer? Thanks.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 10 hours 3 min ago view
  • Lester's personal catcher has an .809 OPS.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 10 hours 6 min ago view
  • we already has this asinine discussion. you didn't like the answer. there's already an answer above you can apply about how a guy goes from 1st base to home on a sac fly that included him stealing 3rd while lester watched from the mound. the fact that the cubs bats, 100% independent of that situation, scored some runs invalidates it as an issue to you. i find that stupid. we will not get anywhere with this. you know we will not get anywhere with this...because we already had this asinine discussion.

    #circularlogic

    crunch 10 hours 7 min ago view
  • it's not about SB...it never was.

    jake arrieta being slow to the plate isn't comparable to jon lester not throwing to any base. how the runners read off arrieta isn't anything similar to what a runner is reading off lester.

    maybe arrieta could use a personal catcher solely to control his running game...but i doubt it's that important.

    crunch 10 hours 11 min ago view