Game Thread: Cubs (45-54) @ Astros (40-58)

A couple items from the rumor mill...

Ken Rosenthal says the Cubs are running a Kosuke Sale. And Bruce Levine is apparently reporting that Ryan Theriot's stock went up over the weekend and that he is now on the radars of the Rockies, Padres, and Tigers. Tip o' the hat to @TheCCO, who passed along Levine's report, and also to Tim McGinnis of Aisle 424 (@Aisle424) who wrote so eloquently of Theriot:

Wonder what scouts valued more about Theriot this wkend? Lost ball in the sun, botched routine DP ball, his lack of range, or his TOOTBLANs.

Here are the lineups for tonight's series opener in Houston. No word on whether or not Bobby Valentine was consulted on the Cubs' order.

Cubs lineup v. Wesley Wright (0-0, 4.40; 2-0, 4.11 all-time vs. Cubs)
Colvin 9, Castro 6, Lee 3, Ramirez 5, Byrd 8, Soriano 7, Soto 2, Theriot 4, Silva 1

Astros lineup vs. Carlos Silva (9-4, 3.86; 2-1, 5.40 all-time vs. Astros)
Bourn 8, Sanchez 6, Berkman 3, Pence 9, C. Lee 7, Keppinger 4, Johnson 5, J. Castro 2, Wright 1

Comments

"Dodgers minor league outfielder Prentice Redman has been suspended for 100 games due to a second positive test for a banned amphetamine."

1- this dude is still out there trying?

2- non-pitchers on amphetamines is just sad...heh

Theriot is nothing more than Ryan Freel. Which begs the question... if you are looking for a cheap, weak middle infielder, why not just go get Ryan Freel?

aww...he's not that bad...nor does he pound a bottle of vodka a day. =p

hell, at this point i wouldn't be surprised to see riot as the 2nd baseman next year on a 2yr/5m deal or similar.

also, i don't think his 2nd is that bad...nor his range...

I think Theriot is better than Freel, especially at this point in time. But what concerns me is the comment you made about pounding a bottle of vodka a day. You said it like it's a bad thing.

Does MLB do random testing for vodka?

i think he was more of a whiskey dude anyway...hehe...wonder what he's up to these days

Theriot solves his running the bases issue for the first time this season.

Not to bag too heavily on Theriot... but how did anyone watching him play second base over the weekend come back favorably impressed?

His second base defense has been pretty solid, but he was really a butcher that one inning (Sunday night?).

About a month ago I heard Freel was playing in the Independent league, I think. One of those fringe minor league teams that signs all the retreads. I think Al Davis secretly owns the team.

Oh, yeah—Carlos Zambrano apologized for something or other.

http://es.pn/91JUeF

oh...this almost HR pulled (he dont pull shit) by m.bourne was interesting.

double.

go silva.

silva is hitting 88-90mph on his fastball, fwiw. he's throwing his slider, too.

seems he's healthy.

seems HOU also has a lead off a berkman single.

not bad through 5...awesomes.

Garza TB vs Detroit

he's faced the minimum thru 7
walked one

and it's done...no hittah...

They probably can't trade for enough offense to save their season. It's officially a two-team race in the AL central.

Yup. Had him on my bench. Sweet.

thank god.

I hate you, Garza and fantasy baseball.

Theriot goes yard.

Home run #1 and XBH #13 on the year (in 375 AB)

First hr in 700 ab's, was longest current streak.

Somewhere Rick Tellander is writing a new article accusing Riot of juicing.

Every starting position player gets a hit, and Cashner-Marshall-Marmol nail down the game. Good to see, but too bad they are 9.5 games back.

Cubs Win! Theriot Hits a dinger!

Chicago can't contain itself.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/multiM...

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  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 1 min 4 sec ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 23 min 23 sec ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 23 min 51 sec ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 32 min 40 sec ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 52 min 50 sec ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 1 hour 23 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 1 hour 26 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 29 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 50 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 1 hour 52 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 1 hour 55 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 1 hour 58 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 1 hour 59 min ago view
  • Billy McKinney had season-ending knee surgery last August and came to Minor League Camp this year somewhat restricted. (He was used mostly as a DH in Cactus League Minor League Camp games), and I'm not sure he's 100% right now (he's repeating AA, and his XBH numbers are way down, like he's not getting good rotation in his lowev half). That might have been part of the reason why the trade wasn't completed right away.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 7 min ago view
  • Rashad Crawford was a basketball star in HS (he was known as "Baby Jordan", and baseball was only his second sport) and he has plus-speed and athleticism, so when the Cubs drafted him (Keith Lockhart was the scout)  he was seen as a long-term project.  

    I was at Fitch Park the day that Rashad Crawford became a LH hitter, He waa never a switch-hitter, He went directly from being a RH hitter to a LH hitter, which I had never seen before. 

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 15 min ago view
  • I'm with Rob G and Johann here. It's not about Chapman as a pitcher. I just don't want to have to block out a real problem (the domestic violence) in order to try to enjoy the frivolous ball and stick game.

    Charlie 2 hours 23 min ago view