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Game 138 Thread / Astros @ Cubs (1 of 3)

Submitted by Rob G. on

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SP Roy Oswalt
 SP Jason Marquis

12-9, 4.11, 135 K, 41 BB, 160.2 IP

9-7, 4.52, 74 K, 52 BB, 141.1 IP
       
2B #Bill Doran CF
 Bob Dernier
RF *Terry Puhl 2B
 Ryne Sandberg
1B *Denny Walling
 LF
 Gary Matthews
LF *Jose Cruz 1B
 Leon Durham
CF #Jerry Mumphrey
 RF
 Keith Moreland
3B
 Phil Garner
 3B
 Ron Cey
C
 #Mark Bailey
 C
 Jody Davis
SS
 *Craig Reynolds
 SS
 #Larry Bowa
P Nolan Ryan
 P Dick Ruthven

 

Unfortunately I have to take off before the lineups are posted, so Marquis and Oswalt will have to face off against the 1984 lineups.

As for the modern day Cubs, all the warm glowing feelings of a seven game win streak are gone after dropping two straight games and two starting pitchers. Three straight losses looms as well with the red-hot Astros (27-15 since the break) and Oswalt's 2.51 August ERA coming to town.

Go Mets!

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Submitted by The Real Neal on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 09:30 pm

Name AVG HR RBI SB 1. D Erstad, CF .292 3 26 2 2. T Wigginton, LF .303 21 52 4 3. M Tejada, SS .281 12 55 7 4. L Berkman, 1B .335 27 94 15 5. G Blum, 3B .242 13 44 1 6. H Pence, RF .263 20 69 8 7. J Castillo, 2B .000 0 0 0 8. B Ausmus, C .225 2 20 0 9. R Oswalt, P .173 0 2 0 Name AVG HR RBI SB 1. A Soriano, LF .288 23 63 17 2. K Fukudome, RF .265 9 54 11 3. D Lee, 1B .293 18 77 8 4. A Ramirez, 3B .280 24 100 2 5. M DeRosa, 2B .293 18 79 6 6. J Edmonds, CF .257 15 43 0 7. G Soto, C .291 20 79 0 8. R Theriot, SS .311 1 34 21 9. J Marquis, P .196 0 4 0 I like Theriot down there in his rightful position.

Submitted by Bernard on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 09:37 pm

Ben Sheets left his start against the Mets with tightness in his left groin.

Submitted by MikeC on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 09:50 pm

Theriot OPS .756 Fukudome OPS .754 Theriot BA .311 Fukudome BA .265 Theriot OBP .391 Fukudome OBP .366 I think Fukudome is the one who needs to start batting 8th, he is the weakest bat on the team unless he proves otherwise over the course of a couple months. BA Per month for Theriot .340 .308 .309 .333 .284 BA per month for Fuku .305 .295 .264 .236 .190 Theriot remains consistent and Fuku keeps getting worse as the league has figured out a slider away can easily get Fuku out.

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Submitted by blockhead25 on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 09:03 pm

What you are likely going to do versus what you have done? How does one determine what a player is "Likely" going to do? Typically you look at their stats and past history. So let's see, who is more likely to hit well...someone who has been in a 4 month slump batting around .200 and not getting on base...or someone who all year long is hitting above .300 and getting on base 4/10 times they are at the plate. By a long shot, I expect far more out of Theriot for the rest of this season than Fukudome....and I think bueying him in the 8th spot is kinda nuts.

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Submitted by The Real Neal on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:48 am

Sure. Theriot is more likely to be a bad basestealer and baserunner, ground into double plays at a ferocious rate and never drive anyone in from first base. I'd expect him to hit about .280 .360 .305 for the rest of the way. Fukudome is more likely to be a competent basestealer and base runner, seldom ground into double plays and occasionally drive in someone from first. I'd expect him to hit .275 .350 .400 the rest of the way. Then there is also the advantage of not stacking 4 right-handed bats at the top of the lineup, and the fact that Fukudome sees more pitches than Theriot, which can be helpful following Soriano's one and done at bats. Despite having more play time, Theriot has created fewer runs than Fukudome on the season, and that doesn't count his getting thrown out at third on GB to short, and standing on third during wild pitches antics. I could be wrong, but I don't give that much credence to the 'MLB pitchers have figured him out theory'. I don't think MLB pitchers and advance scouts are any more clever than those in Japan, and with some mechanical adjustments and refreshed approach, Fukudome is going to be decent from here on out.

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Submitted by WISCGRAD on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:07 am

Well, you also expected Theriot to suck all season and he hasn't, so I am not sure why we should all of a sudden start believing your predictions now. But let me get this correct. You basically expect Theriot to completely tank, hitting 25 points less than he has on the year, getting on base 30 percentage points lower, and slugging SIXTY points lower. And at the same time you expect Fukudome to magically hit 45 points higher than his average over the last 3 months?!?!? Well, I guess if you truly believe that, then sure, Fukudome should hit second. The chances of that happening, though, are slim to none. Even over the last week (7 games) where Theriot has hit an abyssmal .202, Fukodome has still managed to do WORSE, hitting a whopping .150.

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Submitted by The Real Neal on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:33 am

I don't recall saying that Theriot was going to suck all season. When did I say that? I expect Theriot to do what Theriot does, have a decent OBP with no power, and vastly overrated baserunning skills. Now that his SB numbers are more in line with his actual ability level, you'll notice that a lot of people aren't so happy about his overall base running skills. I also predicted that Fukudome would have around a .360 OBP and slug somewhere in the low .400's. But I certainly don't expect you to believe anything. "The chances of that happening, though, are slim to none." OK, Mr Smart pants, slim to none. What's that like 1%? I'll give you twice those odds, $100 bucks against your $5000 (or whatever you can afford to lose), two Cubs tickets against 100 etc. Deal? Since we're picking arbitrary ranges of numbers, I am going to use the last 9 days. Kosuke had hit .280 .400 .440 and Theriot has 'hit' .233 .343 .343. Not to go all crunch on you, but the point is that you have to look past the numbers. And when I do that, I see Fukudome being the more useful offensive player, not counting his ancilliary benefits.

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Submitted by crunch on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:57 am

if you gave someone theriot or fuku...toss the $$ out the window...and say "you can keep 1 for 3 years"...personally, i'd take fuku cuz his upside is way larger. ask me who i trust this last month of the year given what's going on so far...i'd take theriot. unfortunately...or fortunately...the cubs have both. there's no "real" RF backup and theriot hasn't played inconsistently enough to have cedeno take his spot (not like cedeno is some slam-dunk-in-waiting). to add another tangent to it...you give a choice of cedeno or theriot over the next 3 years and you'd have some people picking cedeno because of his upside. theriot at his peak is damn useful, but his peak pretty much involves not finding gloves while chopping the ball past infielders.

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Submitted by WISCGRAD on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:05 pm

Yeah, sure, like I'd take that bet. You just said when you look beyond the numbers you see Fukudome being more useful. So basically, you will always think you are right and will always think you won. But you know what, I'll keep track of their stats from tonight (9/2) on, and after the last day of the season we can compare who was more useful to the team over the lsat month. Also, for the record, Theriot's SB% is over 60% and is only like 10% below Fukudome, who barely ever even attemps a steal. They both go first to third and second to home equally well. And while Theriot has the edge in double plays, it's probably due in part to the fact that he actually makes contact. Fukudome is almost at 100Ks

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Submitted by WISCGRAD on Wed, 09/03/2008 - 09:07 am

My point was that he is not that much worse than Fukudome. The cutoff is pretty arbitrary. If Theriot steals 4-5 bases this month without getting caught then he is concidered "good"? If Fukudome gets caught twice this month without adding a SB he is then "bad." I don't think he has been awful all year. He had a bad stretch where he got thrown out a lot early on. Maybe he wasn't reading the pitchers well for that month or so. It happens. He's only been CS 5 times since the end of May.

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Submitted by WISCGRAD on Wed, 09/03/2008 - 09:19 am

My money isn't where my mouth his? I don't have extra money to bet, are you trying to make something of that fact? Does my income level mean that I don't believe in my argument as much as you do? If you are so sure you are going to win the bet, you should offer to give me the money if you lose and simply accept the pride of victory if(when) you win. But you see what you just did? You decided rather than to rely on statistics you would describe all of the plays of the game for some reason. So basically, you will always think you won. Are we going to descriptively account for every single offensive and defensive play for the two players for the month? Even if I had money to bet, I wouldn't take that bet since there is absolutely no way to verify a winner. But for the sake of argument. Right now for September they are: Theriot - .429 - .500 - .571 - 1.071 Fukudome - .200 - .333 - .200 - .533

Submitted by crunch on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 09:47 pm

8 Ks for marquis. april 22, 2005 last time he had 8 (unless i missed a start after that which he did).

Submitted by MikeC on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 09:03 pm

Real Neal - "It's not what you have done...." Probably the dumbest reason ever to argue against Theriot. Much less any arguement on this site ever. Why don't we just bring up Pie and insert him as our #4 hitter based on the "Real Neal Logic" of "It's not what you have done, it's what you are likely to do."

Submitted by blockhead25 on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 09:57 pm

Oswalt had the perfect game plan for the way the wind was blowing. Throw strikes outside and let the guys swing away and loft it into the wind in right. That was a tough pitching matchup on paper, the Brewers lost, so considering not a big deal. They need to get it going tomorrow. 8 home games left.

Submitted by billybucks on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 09:34 pm

Anybody have stats on Cubs hitting over the last 10 day games? Seems like they really have struggled in the daytime recently. 3pm start vs. Oswalt doesn't help. Brewers, Cards and Phils all lost (Nats have won 7 straight!), so division and playoff magic numbers go down. Show a little faith, there's magic in the night....

Submitted by Rob G. on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 09:43 pm

is both our magic numbers went down...

Submitted by The Real Neal on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:43 am

This is probably 3/44, but in Muskett's latest letterbag thing she actually provided me some useful information. All the NL divisional playoffs are happening on the same days, so there's none of this 'choose your schedule' thing that other had mentioned - I guess the Red Sox or someone got to do last year.

Submitted by Cubster on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:52 am

the ultimate 3/44 news Jason Schmidt will be shut down for the rest of the season. ----------- Torre said Brad Penny continues to throw on flat ground but not yet off a mound, so his return isn't imminent. But at least it's still a possibility, which isn't the case with Jason Schmidt, who Torre said has been shut down for the rest of the season. Schmidt, unable to return from shoulder surgery performed 15 months ago, was not available to discuss his options, which might include another operation. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080901&content_id=3403484&vke… one more year on 3/44's contract to go (thru 2009)

Submitted by Rob G. on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:04 pm

The probables show he is, just wondering if anyone has heard differently.

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Submitted by jacos on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:39 pm

Z tonite. Also Sun Times reporting Lou and Coaches had meeting after game yesterday to discuss "shaking up the line up" part of it would Fuku batting second, even though he did already yesterday.

Submitted by The E-Man on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:38 pm

While I freely admit that defensively Sori is one of the worst in the NL, he truly can carry a team - which is hard to do in baseball - when he is on a "good" streak, w/his bat. I think I recall clearly that a very high percentage of this board were awestruck, or genuinely shocked, that Hendry would/could sign a player of Sori's stature at the time. It NEVER HAPPENED to US! OF course, he signed him at his career's apex coming from the Nats. So he bought "high". He also has bought "low" this year and made out pretty well, we'd have to agree. Also, the baseball gods protected Hendry from signing players during Winter '07 which many of us wanted to be in Cubbie Blue: 3/44, Padilla, Meche, Furcal, Nomar, ZITO, Bedard, et. al. Personally. I was floored b/c John McD's mantra of "we don't want to just compete, etc...We want to win the World Series now." was acted upon tangibly. I hope with all the optimism I can offer, that he can bring it in the post-season. If he does - just once in his career - it will all be worth it, imo.

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Submitted by Chad on Tue, 09/02/2008 - 09:52 pm

"While I freely admit that defensively Sori is one of the worst in the NL" Horrible call. Good speed, good arm. That makes up for short comings. Gold Glove, no. But a butcher he is not.

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