Hendry on Brink of Trade Deadline Fail

With less than 48 hours to go on the trade deadline and the Cubs season over long ago, Hendry seems on the brink of not being able to move any of his overpriced talent.

Well-done sir.

The latest of course is that Derrek Lee wouldn't waive his NTC to go to the Angels  who happen to reside in Southern California where he is building a home. As a 10/5 man, he has earned that right,  so fair enough. But please don't invoke the love of the city or your teammates because you're kind of screwing them over.

"I think the bottom line is family. I like Chicago, I enjoy my teammates. It was the decision we made."

You may be thinking that he just didn't want to go to the Angels who are pretty much out of it, but according to Bruce Levine, the Rangers came up with an offer as well and they're very well on their way to the playoffs at the moment. I don't know anything about Lee's personel life, but for the $13M he's making this year, it seems like he could overcome the 2-month inconvenience. Since Lee is still having a crap year and the team is obviously moving on past him for 2011, it'd be nice if he was benched for prolonged period of times to start giving whomever the Cubs think might be next year's first basemen some much needed game experience (Colvin, Soriano, Ramirez, Hoffpauir, etc).

- Ted Lilly seemed like a slam dunk to get moved, but teams seem to be balking at picking up his salary. The Cubs should of course just offer to pay most of it, if it can net them a decent pair of prospects, but Hendry still can't figure out how free agent compensation works, so I'm doubtful he'll figure out the idea of sunk costs. The Phillies are of course out now as they picked up Roy Oswalt, leaving the Mets, Twins and Dodgers as the most likely targets, although all seem hesitant at this late hour.

On the other hand, if these teams are so hesitant to pick up his salary or Lee's, both should easily clear waivers and if they don't, dear god Hendry, just let them go and save the money since there's no way in hell you'll offer them arbitration cause you never do that.

- I haven't heard much on the Ryan Theriot front lately past the Rockies and Tigers rumors. Xavier Nady's continued awfulness has nullified his trade value.

So at this moment, we all have the joy of following a terrible team that can't even conduct a proper fire sale. Cubs fever...catch it.

Comments

I believe the deadline is not until Saturday 5:00 eastern.

/hoping
//see nomar, randy johnson

It's 4 pm eastern.

Who asked ya!?!??!

i keed.

Submitted by QuietMan on Thu, 07/29/2010 - 8:15pm.
It's 4 pm eastern.

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QUET MAN: You are correct, sir. The non-waiver trade deadline is one hour prior to the end of the waiver period.

And then the new waiver period begins at 05:00 EDT on Saturday.

Because weekends are only considered "business days" during Spring Training, players cannot be placed on Trade Waivers until Monday August 2 at 2 PM EDT. And therefore the first batch of players will clear waivers at 1 PM EDT on Wednesday 8/4.

So there can be no trades starting at 4 PM EDT Saturday until Wednesday at 1 PM EDT.

Hi AZ Phil,

Do you see either Guyer or Thomas (Tony) getting promotions before the end of the year? Both have really turned it on offensively over the past few weeks, and the looming 2B vacuum at the big league level makes it seem like a no-brainer to see how Thomas can perform against AAA pitching in a significant number of ABs before camp breaks next spring.

Submitted by Ross_Barnes on Thu, 07/29/2010 - 8:42pm.
Hi AZ Phil,

Do you see either Guyer or Thomas (Tony) getting promotions before the end of the year? Both have really turned it on offensively over the past few weeks, and the looming 2B vacuum at the big league level makes it seem like a no-brainer to see how Thomas can perform against AAA pitching in a significant number of ABs before camp breaks next spring.

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ROSS B: As things stand right now, I believe three of the players who are eligible to be Rule 55 Minor League Free-Agents (OF Brad Snyder, RHP Thomas Diamond, and C-IF Robinson Chirinos) will be added to the Cubs 40-man roster by the deadline for adding Rule 55 Minor League FAs (no later than the 4th day following the conclusion of the World Series).

Players who are eligible for selection in the Rule 5 Draft must be added to the 40-man roster no later than 11/20 to avoid being eligible for selection, and I believe RHP Chris Archer, INF Darwin Barney, and OF Brandon Guyer are the three Cubs players eligible for selection in the December 2010 Rule 5 Draft who will be added to the 40-man roster, although Guyer might have to have a good showing in the AFL to secure the slot.

Of those six, I would think Barney and Snyder will very likely be added to the 40-man roster and placed on the Cubs MLB Active List in September (Snyder will be out of options once he is added to the 40, so the Cubs need to get him as much playing time as possible in September and Spring Taining 2011 to find out if he can hit big league pitching), while the other four might not be added until the applicable deadlines because the Cubs need to create roster space for them. (Archer, Barney, Chirinos, and Guyer would have three minor league options available in 2011, while Diamond would have one left over from when he was previously on 40-man rosters).

Archer and Guyer will just take the roster slots opened when Lee and Lilly file for free-agency, while Diamond and Chirinos will have to take the roster slots of players dropped from the 40-man roster prior to the 4th day following the conclusion of the World Series.

Some of the roster moves the Cubs might make in September and October would be to transfer Esmailin Caridad from the 15-day DL to the 60-day DL (players on the 60-day DL do not have to be reinstated until the conclusion of the MLB Free-Agency Filing Period) and release Bob Howry (that opens up slots for Barney and Snyder), and either release or trade Xavier Nady and maybe outright Jeff Gray (he will be out of options next season) to open slots for Chirinos and Diamond.

And then Jeff Baker, Koyie Hill, and Angel Guzman are likely 12/12 non-tender candidates, although the Cubs could outright any of the three prior to 12/12 to clear additional roster slots (and if that happens after to the conclusion of the season, the player will almost certainly refuse the Outright Assignment and become an Article XX minor league FA, presuming the player is not claimed off waivers).

I know he hasn't done much at all to impress this year, but I would have liked to see Jeff Baker get to play 2b every day, vs rhp and lhp, for an extended period of time earlier this year. Instead we got force fed a platoon and then Theriot. Now if Riot happens to be traded and Baker gets regular ab's, they'll just say it's at the end of the year and doesn't matter (kind of like Baker's performance last year).

It's hard to believe but Baker has only started 13 games all year at 2b.

I'm not saying Baker would turn into anything, but it's been a problem throughout Cubs history to get rid of guys before we know what they can do. Last year Baker's BABIP for the Cubs was way out of whack, and then he got off to a slow start platooning and got buried on the bench.

It's kind of crazy to be getting rid of people when you never gave them regular playing time (and it's not like we had a solid starter blocking him).

didn't I say less than 48 hours?

I'm good at reading, not so much comprehension.

anyone hear from Smiley Caridad lately?

did his right arm fall off?

is he under the care of Chad Fox's doctor?

Submitted by Cubster on Thu, 07/29/2010 - 8:48pm.
anyone hear from Smiley Caridad lately?

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CUBSTER: Caridad is MIA. I suspect it might be T-JACK, but I'm not sure.

per Rosenthal: Twins get Capps and cash for Ramos and LHP Joe Testa, recently demoted from AA to A

would have been a nice trading chip had the Cubs gotten Capps...woulda, shoulda, coulda.

Kerry Wood coming off the DL tomorrow. Lilly for KW...just to add to the DLee and LouPa lame duck but feel good, wrap-up the 2010 season tour.

"it'd be nice if he was benched for prolonged period of times to start giving whomever the Cubs think might be next year's first basemen some much needed game experience..."

As we have seen, Hendry gives the veteran the last say. Always. Dusty. Lou. DLee. Any "good soldier".

Indeed, we have not reached the deadline yet. So -we have to wait and see...

Move Theriot to 1b and make him play on stilts. It will be entertaining, for sure.

it sure as hell would improve attendance.

If they did that and made fonty dress like an oompa loompa iwould buy some tix.

Which oompa loompas? The ones in the Roald Dahl book, the Gene Wilder movie, or the Johnny Depp movie? The ones in the Roald Dahl book would be incredibly politically incorrect.

I don't know, they don't look too politically incorrect to me...

http://www.funnydogsite.com/pictures/Oompa_Lo...

I would hope they would dump Howry friday to bring Zambrano back.

But then who would pitch when we're losing by 7 runs in the late innings to the Astros?

They can just bring up Schmardznut

No, Someninja is for getting into that 7-run deficit.

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  • I am right there with you closing in on 60.

    I don't care that much about "mortgaging" one player who is not only blocked by two guys, but is not ready to hit the majors for at least a couple years.

    There is no reason why this team, this year, can't have a real shot at something NONE of us have experienced.

    Further, I don't feel that even if they fall short that they have ruined their farm system.

    I have made my opinion clear here, with others, Warren was shit on the Cubs save one spot start.

    The E-Man 8 min 33 sec ago view
  • Trading for Warren, Warren sucking, getting Warren back for Chapman plus 3 prospects, sounds like Revenge of The Yankees on the former Boston executive. Old rivalries never die.

    I pray to the heavens above Chapman doesn't suck for some reason, or he'll be booed out of town faster than a Todd Hundley revival meeting.

    Old and Blue 16 min 12 sec ago view
  • I'm kind of nostalgic for the Schwarber-for-Miller rumors.

    Brick 27 min 56 sec ago view
  • This offseason, after some ridiculous playoff run and Chapman saving every game from here until the end of the postseason striking out 27/9innings, I welcome anyone to quote this thread and call me a dummy: I hate this trade, and my hate is 2 parts Chapman makes this team less likeable and 1 part that's a ridiculous overpay for 30 regular season innings and, at tops, 10 postseason innings. Already hoping they don't extend him.

    Charlie 29 min 45 sec ago view
  • btw...Thanks AZ Phil. I'm really enjoying your take on this trade.

    Cubster 52 min 4 sec ago view
  • I'm a bit disappointed on the Warren experience. Essentially they gave Castro away for crickets (OK, well they signed Zobrist with the Castro salary dump). Otherwise one might look at it as Chapman for Castro and our #1 minors prospect (Torres) + McKinney/Crawford. Seems pricey for a 2 month rental. We will see if this price tag is that steep in a relative way based on the remaining deadline deals for relievers.

    Cubster 52 min 32 sec ago view
  • Yep. One of the great things about this team (in addition to being really good at baseball) was the "likable" factor. Feels a bit different now. Who knows...maybe Chapman will be the king of the dance parties.

    billybucks 1 hour 1 min ago view
  • Here are some possible corresponding minor league moves we might see in the aftermath  of the Chapman trade: 

    SOUTH BEND to MYRTLE BEACH: OF Donnie Dewees and INF Bryant Flete  

    EUGENE to SOUTH BEND: OF Robert Garcia and INF Vimael Machin 

    There is really no reason to replace Billy McKinney at Tennessee because both Chris Coghlan and Jorge Soler are doing their rehab at Tennessee.  

    And there are plenty of pitchers at Iowa. No need to replace Warren at AAA. .  

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 21 min ago view
  • I am 70 years old. The Cubs last played in the World Series in 1945. I was born in 1946. I hate to lose a prospect like Torres, but when the opportunity is there to get that World Series ring, you go for it. This was the idea in stock piling all this young talent. I would like to see Reddick added now and the Cubbies should be done.

    Hagsag 1 hour 51 min ago view
  • I would expect Richard to accept an optional assignment because based on how he's played this season, there is a decent chance that he won't find work elsewhere. Rather stay and potentially get a ring. Same goes for Coghlan since he's struggled mightily this year.

    Edwards should not go down. He's pitched very well and Maddon is very impressed with him. I would expect Grimm to go down for Cahill so he can get back on track (he's pitched better in July, but he's not getting enough appearances).

    chitownmvp01 1 hour 55 min ago view
  • chitownmvp01: Indeed Clayton Richard would seem to be odd man out once Chapman reports, but Richard might accept a minor league assignment if he is promised a return to Chicago on 9/1 when MLB Active List rosters expand (Richard has minor league ioptions left).

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 58 min ago view
  • The only player in the deal that would cause me a second thought is Gleyber Torres.

    McKinney and Crawford are decent prospects but both are redundant/replaceable in the system and Warren was really only a middle-reliever or #6 starter, so to me it's really just Torres for Chapman.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 18 min ago view
  • There is no Comp pick for players traded mid-season. 2+ months of Chapman is it.

    mbauer 2 hours 21 min ago view
  • to get one of the best you have to give up one/some of your best...but it's a bit painful to watch the system's best prospect walk for any 2-3 month rental, especially one that's not an everyday player.

    crunch 2 hours 23 min ago view
  • I assume Chapman will replace Richard on the roster, but who goes down when Cahill gets activated? Maybe Grimm?

    And when Soler and Coghlan get healthy, how do they fit them on the roster when they're ready to be activated?

    chitownmvp01 2 hours 26 min ago view
  • We are giving up a lot, but it's not like we're trading Addison Russell for 2+ months of Jason Hammel. When impact players become available, they are going to cost you. The other bids could also have been high.

    Having Chapman as a rental is potentially less disruptive than having him come in with an extension in place. 

    CTSteve 2 hours 28 min ago view