Braves Targeting Aramis

That's the story on NBC Sports citing Talking Chop of SB Nation, which isn't what I'd call a go-to news source. But alas it's out there and if the Braves do put in a waiver claim, I'd like to hope Hendry just lets him go to the Braves and saves the money for the rest of this year and most likely next. Granted, Aramis still has a a NTC and would have to approve the deal even if the Cubs just let the waiver claim go through, but it would take the Cubs off the hook for 2011 on the assumption that Aramis was going to exercise his option.

Not much else going on, nice little weekend of playing spoiler to the Cardinals by taking two out of three, but they couldn't keep the momentum going today against the first place Padres. Gorz pitched well for six innings, but then the 7th happened and then the bullpen and the Cubs stayed within a half game of the 5th pick in the 2011 draft. After the game, Lou felt the need to vent about the young pitchers whose names he'll forget by Day 2 of his retirement.

The signing deadline for the 2010 draft came and went on Monday and according to Cubs.com, the Cubs signed 29 of their 50 picks, 15 of their top 16 picks and 21 of their top 25. The top holdout was 6th round pick Ivan Dejesus (standard disclaimer that he's not related to that Ivan Dejesus).

According to tweets by Chicago Cubs Online, Oneri Fleita mentioned ont he radio that Chris Archer, Brett Jackson and Josh Vitters will be 3 of the Cubs heading to the Arizona Fall League with Vitters getting time at 3b and 1b. The Cubs will send 2-4 more players when they make their official announcement later this month.

UPDATE: As I noted, Talking Chop should not be your go-to news source as just about everyone with the Braves is dismissing the idea.

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I believe next year 100 won't be only used to describe the ws drowt.
They are going to be historically bad next year.

the ws drowt.
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Dick Drott, Drowt, Draught or Drought... 1957 Cubs

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQso...

me fail english? unpossinle!

I can't wait for what kind of miserable ad campaign Ricketts dreams up next year. This year, from Spring Training on, they ran radio ads that didn't even mention the Cubs, it's all about Wrigley Field and "come visit Wrigley Field" and how "Wrigley Field is a way of life", coupled with some idiot actor telling some dumb story about how their life is so much better when they find time to hang out at Wrigley Field. No mention of baseball, the Cubs, any players, etc. Wayne Messmer's voice comes on at the end to promote tickets for a certain date, that's the only reference to the team or baseball. The commercials make me want to rip my radio out and throw it out the window.

Next year's Cubs radio ads will include, "Come see the yellow noodle! The Toyota sign! Or have your picture taken with the new Wrigley Field mascot - Greenie the Whore! Greenie is an obnoxious but lovable dollar bill who rifles through your pockets, taking every last penny."

Gimpy the half hibernated bear is ready to return

Shark now 10-2, I'd love to hear an interview with Sandberg describing his opinion on Zija's season.

http://iowa.cubs.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ym...

His impression should be that he's been ridicuously lucky in not giving up HR's on the fly balls he does give up, and that he should be traded to any team that doesn't realize that during the off-season. The K's are up to a nice rate, but with all those walks and fly balls, he's a ticking timb bomb of ERA explosion.

he's a ticking timb bomb of ERA explosion

with a no trade clause.

I'm not saying he'd use it. I'm just saying he has one.

Yep, I would think at this point he feels jerked around enough that he'd accept a "fresh start" trade. Especially if the rumors of his rampant ego are true.

He still could play in the NFL. Maybe some team will have an injury and come calling?

Still best wr in chicago until further notice

According to Cot's Contracts, if Ramirez is traded and he exercises his 2011 option for $14.6 million, then his 2012 season becomes guaranteed at $16 million. That makes trading him much less likely.

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/chic...

I've also read/heard contradicting reports on whether a waiver claim requires a player to waive his no-trade clause. If the Cubs put ARam on waivers and the Braves (or any team) claimed him, can't we just say, "OK, he's yours" and that's not technically a trade. If we asked for players back, that's a trade and would require ARam's approval.

Does anyone know what the actual rules are? AZ Phil?

Check out AZ Phil's Corner at the top of the page.

In the 40 man roster piece there's a section on Trade Assignment Waivers.

Here's the money quote, "A player with "no trade" rights can refuse both a waiver claim and a trade assignment, however."

P.S. I miss AZ Phil

what QuietMan said and what I said in the post, Aramis has to waive his NTC.

That being said, they could skirt around the 2012 guarantee by just allowing the waiver claim as that's not technically a trade. The article seemed to state that the Braves would want some guarantee that Aramis would exercise his 2011 option to opt out, so this is all pretty doubtful.

"I get to move for two months, and I get to have a pay cut for next year? Where do I sign?!"

Wait... weren't you complaining about DLee not waiving his NTC?

well I was, but Lee wasn't going to take a paycut and going to a team in a city where he is moving to anyway and Lee was leaving the Cubs in 2 months regardless.

This. Were the Braves open to accepting his options in this scenario, I'd bitch a little more, but no one is going to do what's proposed here.

Sounds like things were discussed:

Thus Wren did at least explore the possibility of acquiring Ramirez. But when the veteran third baseman was unwilling to adjust his contract, this option no longer made sense from a financial perspective.

The Braves could certainly find a way to afford the approximate $4 million that Ramirez would be owed for the remainder of this season.

But with Jones at least currently committed to return next year and earn the $14 million that he is owed, the Braves aren't in a position where they would could also afford the $14.6 that Ramirez will be guaranteed when he exercises his player option for the 2011 season.

And to top things off, if the Cubs do trade Ramirez, his $16 million option for the 2012 season becomes guaranteed.

http://markbowman.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/0...

Ummm... he never retired this time. Good try though.

heh...in extra innings games the O's lead MLB with a 11-3 record.

woo, basesballs.

That means they're 31-74 in games that are 9 innings or less.

HAHA!

And the White sox are .500 against teams in the AL, while going like 14-1 against the NL.

woo..TCR classic

also, castro takes his 2nd walk of august

DeWitt requires off-season surgery to remove the piano on his back.

I sort of liked the "new" color scheme.

Tough error there.

Castro hitting .358/.394/.448 in August...ok...I'll be a little less irked by his dearth of walks if he's hitting .270/.322/.380

Koyie Hill continues to un-impress with his defense.

Isn't that supposed to be his "strength?"

Ricketts wants to move Harry Caray's statue to make room for a Billy Williams statue. Dutchie Caray is pissed and canceled her planned appearance at Wrigley Monday night to sing Take Me Out To The Ballgame.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-0...

Leave the HC statue alone, Wheel the Billy Williams statue in the batters box when the Cubs get RISP, it will strikeout less than Soriano

Problem solved. Team upgraded.

It's the right move, but he probably should've waited until Dutchie died.

They could move the statue across the street, in front of HC's restaurant.

He's in there for his power bat.

ZERO HR in 139 AB in 2010
Career: 5 HR in 623 AB.

Sheesh.

David Kaplan says Braves close to acquiring D-Lee.

http://bit.ly/bTIuxg

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    crunch 17 min 28 sec ago view
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    billybucks 6 hours 30 min ago view
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    crunch 7 hours 32 min ago view
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    Arizona Phil 8 hours 19 min ago view
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    Arizona Phil 8 hours 46 min ago view
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