Mike Quade Era Starts With A Bang, Will Surely End with a Whimper

The Cubs came out thumping last night for their new manager knocking out 15 hits and taking 6 walks, 3 of them by Soto as they pitched around him in the 8th spot. The last time the Cubs had an interim manager it was 2002 and the job went to Bruce Kimm (with Rene Lachemann getting one game before Kimm took over). The Cubs responded well that first game for Kimm, winning 7-3 over the Braves, but he ended up going 33-45 on the year, nearly identical to Baylor who was 34-49 before being fired.

You have to go to 1991 for the next mid-season firing, when Don Zimmer got canned after going 18-19 and once again a one game gig was given to bridge the gap, but this time to Joe Altobelli before Jim Essian took over.  If my math is right, the Cubs won that game as well for Essian, a 5-2 win over the Mets thanks to Greg Maddux, but Essian didn't fare much better than Zimmer did for the rest of the season finishing with a 59-63 record.

Some other interim manager results since 1970 for the Cubs.

1987 - Frank Lucchesi (8-17), lost first game to Pirates 4-1. Replaced Gene Michael (68-68).

1986 - Gene Michael (46-56), lost first game to Cardinals 1-0. Replaced Jim Frey (23-33).

1983 - Charlie Fox(17-22) , won first game 2-0 over Reds. Replaced Lee Elia (54-69).

1980 - Joey Amalfitano (26-46), lost first game 14-6 to Giants. Replaced Preston Gomez (38-52).

1979 - Joey Amalfitano (2-5), lost first game 3-1 to Mets. Replaced Herman Franks  who resigned (78-77).

1974 - Jim Marshall (25-44), lost first game 10-2 to the Phillies. Replaced Whitey Lockman (41-52).

1972 - Whitey Lockman (39-26), lost first game 6-5 to the Astros. Replaced Leo Durocher (46-44).

Kimm nor Essian got to keep the job the following year and I'm sure the same will happen for Quade unless the team goes on a crazy hot streak to finish the year. Gene Michael was the last interim manager to keep the job after the '86 season although he didn't even make it through the '87 season. Amalfitano did get a chance in the strike shortened '81 season but with poor results. Marshall stayed through 1976 before being replaced by Herman Franks in 1977 and Whitey Lockman stayed on for 1973 and part of 1974.

Quade's big move for tonight against the lefty Lannan is to move Soto up to the 6th spot, offsetting that inspirational move by batting Jeff Baker 5th and playing him in RF. Dewitt stays in the leadoff spot after going 3/5 with a HR and a 2B. Byrd sits after being hit in the hand yesterday and leaving the game early.

DeWitt 2B, Castro SS, Nady 1B, Ramirez 3B, Baker RF, Soto C, Soriano LF, Colvin CF, Zambrano P

And Justin Berg has been optioned to Iowa, lefty Scott Maine has been recalled (acquired in the offseason in a deal for Aaron Heilman).

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Memories-

Essian use to greet players back in dugout after a homer with his hat in his hand. I wished someone grabbed it from him and took a shit in it.

Kimm-
Still confused he didn't look George Takei, had to keep Fred McStiff in lineup to try to set some frivolous homer run season streak record.

Otherwise good times!

"These guys were the greatest because, somehow, against the odds, they kept going."

"...these are not cautionary tales. These are not exceptions to the rule. They are the rule."

good stuff...seriously.

God, ROB G, what a demonstration of pathetic ineptitude. It just shows that the organization from top to bottom, has really been one of the worst organizations in Major League Baseball over the last 50 years.

It seems that 1984 was the year expectations started rising some, and 2003, of course was the attempt to finally overcome the "lovable loser" image.

Of course Gene Michael won a World Series and Frey could have gotten there except for Leon "Blow" Durham.

someone named colvin just hit an offspeed pitch over a wall...neat.

Z looks poised and happy tonight...not rushed...smiling a bit after outs in a chilled out manner.

6ip 3h 1bb 8k - 88 pitches

topping out 90mph semi-regularly (and 91/92 a couple times)...slider 84...

move him to the bull pen.

hah...

also, he's probably done.

7ip 4h 1bb 8k - 100 pitches

...and he's not done.

-edit- oh yeah, he's gone 100+ pitches recently...dur. i thought he was little behind on the pitch stamina.

Quade looked like Fire Marshall Bill when he took z out- Let me show you something!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlLPogmB8M8

Weird to watch, but nice. I haven't seen him with that good control since... well I can't remember when. His only walk was a pitch around, and it was the right decision.

Of course, the run he gave up was because he tried a boneheaded play - up three runs against the Nats, Carlos? Take the out.

Z pitched well. You'd like to see a little more velocity on the fastball, but his stuff looked good enough tonight to give us hope even if the speed never returns.

And Colvin went yard. I think some of y'all ought take it easy on the kid. He's put together a pretty decent rookie year.

besides not actually playing 1st (and probably not at all until byrd returns) people are scared of his lack of walking, high Ks, and maybe not having enough power to justify it (some people dont trust the power outbreak and think he's overachieving currently).

myself...i don't mind him, especially at his price and promise (the homer he hit tonight was off a breaking ball and overall he's not just some line-drive homer guy).

personally, i would like to see a 1st backup on the bench that's more than hoff. if they do go with colvin at 1st.

the only way i see them not going with him at 1st is if they trade fuku or sori...that would make for an interesting offseason.

marmol accidentally balks while quade is screaming fielding instructions of where to set up to hoff. at 1st. awesome.

hey wow...it's 5-4. bases loaded triples are awesome. rad. k-rad.

scrubs win!

Yee-haw! Now I want The Quad Squad to rip off 18 of the next 22 and make sure we don't get a shot at Cole, Jungmann, Grey, etc. This year is so confusing.

I hope they get hotter than shit.

If they get hot, I just hope that it's not somebody like Nady carrying the team. I'd rather see Soto, Colvin, Castro, DeWitt, Cashner, Marmol, Marshall, etc. play well. I'd love to see Fukudome get hot though. Might help the Cubs unload him.

Z flys back to Venzuela to be with 11 year old nephew who has deadly infection. Will be back for Monday start

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=403055

a little bit on what to possibly expect from Sandberg if he gets the job.

Okay, I'm a little more interested now....

I can't really foresee a scenario where Sandberg doesn't get the job. The public relations hit would just be too much for the team to take after this disastrous season. Cubs fans will put up with a 71 win season with Ryne Sandberg in the dugout. They're not going to put up with one with Mike Quade.

Since when do quality professional baseball organizations determine their front-office and managerial hiring choices by the fans' preferences? If Mike Quade (or whoever else) is going to be a better manager for the Cubs baseball team than Ryne Sandberg, then they better hire him over Sandberg. I don't want the P.R. team making the baseball side's decisions.

Since it is hard to know which manager is better between Quade and Sandberg, the Cubs will need to take other factors into consideration, and the fans reactions is one such factor. This is a for profit business after all.

"quality professional baseball organizations"?

I thought we were talking about the Cubs -- see "Bradley, M." and "Fukudome, K." in the index.

Submitted by SheffieldCornelia on Wed, 08/25/2010 - 8:41am.
Since when do quality professional baseball organizations determine their front-office and managerial hiring choices by the fans' preferences? If Mike Quade (or whoever else) is going to be a better manager for the Cubs baseball team than Ryne Sandberg, then they better hire him over Sandberg. I don't want the P.R. team making the baseball side's decisions.

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SHEF: Word inside the org is that Ricketts wants Sandberg to be manager because he knows the 2011 Cubs won't be contenders and he wants Sandberg as the "face of the franchise" to help sell tickets, while Hendry wants Girardi as manager and Sandberg as bench coach.

Right now the Cubs have a projected $118M 2011 payroll ($98M+ for players who are already signed, about $15M for arbitration-eligibles, and $5M for auto-renewal guys), with additional savings possible if some arbitration-eligibles get non-tenderded (A. Guzman for sure, probably K. Hill, and maybe Baker, too) and if the Cubs can find a taker for Fukudome (even if the Cubs have to eat a lot of the contract), and it is unknown how much over that Ricketts will go.

Because of recent trades (Lilly, Theriot, and D. Lee), the Cubs actuall payroll pay-out in 2010 is down to around $132M from $140M, so it's possible that the 2011 payroll might not be as low as was previously thought, with the some or all of the $8M saved in 2010 payroll possibly applied toward 2011 payroll.

I doubt that the Cubs will give out any mega-contracts to free-agents again anytime soon. The Marlon Byrd FA contact will be used as a template for future deals, which will probably exclude Adam Dunn, Cliff Lee, and Ted Lilly.

Also, look for the Cubs to sign free-agents later in the off-season (especially bullpen guys), picking off bargains at discount prices rather than making pre-emptive strikes to sign premier free-agents in November-December, and expect the Cubs to use the depth in their farm system (although they might not have as many "Top 100" guys as some other organizations, the Cubs do have a very deep farm system) to make trades for "rent-a-players" headed for free-agency to fill holes.

I can't see Sandberg being a bench coach for a guy he mentored when he reached the majors. Why would Girardi sign up for that?

Making Girardi the manager just delays the inevitable push for Sandberg for three years - what's the point of that?

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 08/25/2010 - 9:15am.
I can't see Sandberg being a bench coach for a guy he mentored when he reached the majors. Why would Girardi sign up for that?

Making Girardi the manager just delays the inevitable push for Sandberg for three years - what's the point of that?

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REAL NEAL: Although it might appear that Ryne Sandberg is on the fast track to be an MLB manager, there are those inside the organization who think Casey Kopitzke (who will be managing the Mesa Solar Sox in the AFL this year) will be a much better manager than Sandberg, and that Sandberg is not ready to manage in the big leagues at this time (Kopitzke isn't either, which is why Girardi would be preferred). Whether Girardi would accept Sandberg as his bench coach is unknown, but it would be a compromise between what Ricketts wants and what Hendry wants. Then Sandberg could seek other managerial jobs with other organizations while working as the Cubs bench coach. It's also possible that Girardi could replace Hendry as GM at some point in the near future (2012), with Hendry moving up to Team President (replacing Crane Kenny) and Sandberg moving up to manager from bench coach at that time.

However, Ricketts supposedly favors Sandberg as the next Cubs manager, and since Ricketts is the owner, it will probably turn out that way, unless he is convinced otherwise.

Phil, I wonder if you can expand a bit on these points for us. When is a manager "ready"? What tangible skills don't these two have now that they would attain in time that would make them ready? I mean it's not like you don't make double-switches until you get to AAA or something. They are doing all of the same things a big league manager does, except working with high-paid primadonnas - experience you can't get until you become a big league manager. So what specifically do "those inside the organization" that you cite see that needs work? Thanks.

Submitted by WISCGRAD on Wed, 08/25/2010 - 9:46am.
Phil, I wonder if you can expand a bit on these points for us. When is a manager "ready"? What tangible skills don't these two have now that they would attain in time that would make them ready? I mean it's not like you don't make double-switches until you get to AAA or something. They are doing all of the same things a big league manager does, except working with high-paid primadonnas - experience you can't get until you become a big league manager. So what specifically do "those inside the organization" that you cite see that needs work? Thanks.

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WISCGRAD: Questions about Sandberg have absolutley nothing to do with in-game tactics or general baseball knowledge. It is all about managerial temperament and learning the league (how to use advance scouting reports to plan a game, the tendencies of rival managers, how far to push certain umpires, etc).

In the case of Sandberg, serving a year as bench coach would help him with the latter, but the temperament issue is what it is. It is sometimes hard for a perfectionist Hall of Famer to deal with incompetence (players, umpires, front office, et al).

Fair enough, but isn't the best place to deal with incompetence the minor leagues? The fields suck, the buses suck, the umpires suck, the players often suck, etc. If he was going to be challenged by incompetence, he wouldn't have lasted these years in the minors. That's my opinion.

I also think that using scouting reports and knowing how far to push the major league umpires, etc. is why you give Sandberg an experienced bench coach. A guy who can say, I've know ump X for 15 years now, he doesn't like it when you do Y, he is best worked like this, etc.

Submitted by WISCGRAD on Wed, 08/25/2010 - 10:11am.
Fair enough, but isn't the best place to deal with incompetence the minor leagues? The fields suck, the buses suck, the umpires suck, the players often suck, etc. If he was going to be challenged by incompetence, he wouldn't have lasted these years in the minors. That's my opinion.

I also think that using scouting reports and knowing how far to push the major league umpires, etc. is why you give Sandberg an experienced bench coach. A guy who can say, I've know ump X for 15 years now, he doesn't like it when you do Y, he is best worked like this, etc.

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WISCGRAD: Fans like it when a manager complains out loud to the press (Ozzie Gullen), but some of the Cubs front office people like to keep everything in-house, and might be worried that Sandberg might get frustrated enough at some point where he talks "out of turn" when he disagrees with a move.

Fans who remember Sandberg as a quiet player would be surprised how much he has changed as a manager. He has a VERY short fuse and has been almost Larry Bowa-like as a minor league manager. I think Ricketts probably likes that, but I'm not sure Hendry does.

Thanks as always for your insight, AZ Phil--this has been very helpful.

With that said, if Ricketts really is pushing Sandberg for those reasons, it eliminates any of my trust in the Ricketts family to be able to run a winning organization, and it makes me wish Bud Selig had allowed Mark Cuban to buy the team...

Clearly this organization is not going anywhere positive, anytime soon.

So, if you could have Ryne Sandberg and a $135 million payroll or Mike Quade and a $120 million payroll you'd go with Quade (assuming he's a better manager)?

Are those the choices?

I don't know what sort of revenue projection they're going to make and how that will play into the budget, but you can be 100% sure that they will make revenue projections and those projections will be noticeably higher with Sandberg as their manager.

The Cubs will be a profitable endeavor either way. It's just a matter of how much Ricketts wants to win.

I'd like to think he bought the team to make it a winner?

Others seem to think he bought it to count beans and wring every last piece of profit out of it?

We shall see how it plays out

How 'bout hoping that he bought the team with the intention of counting beans in order to wring every last win out of the money the team has to spend on payroll?

(Of course he's still going to try to make a profit.)

i still find it funny heartless and hands-off Zell is the one who gave the cubs their mega-payroll bump.

sure, he was probably trying to snag a quick trophy or ring before he sold the team, but slash-and-burn Zell didn't slash-and-burn the cubbies.

I also find it funny Crunch

But we'll never know how much the money and the "desire to win" had to do with it. It may well be that Rickett's is convinced that Sandberg's the best man for the job regardless.

Based on Hendry's track record of picking managers, it's hard to say his opinion should count for much.

I think the Cubs are going to be profitable with or without Sandberg, as long as management makes moves with the roster that give us hope that we can win. I don't know about you, but I don't go to the ballpark to watch the manager make double-switches and kick some dirt on an umpire. I go in the hopes that the Cubs will win the ballgame.

And if you do want to make the argument that Sandberg will bring more money in, I don't think management is bumping the payroll $15M in anticipation of all those extra funds. I think the player budget will be the same regardless of who is managing the team.

I think the Cubs are going to be profitable with or without Sandberg, as long as management makes moves with the roster that give us hope that we can win.

You started the discussion by saying or implying that the manager has an impact on wins and losses, now you've changed your position. So why would you prefer Quade or anyone over Sandberg?

I think the player budget will be the same regardless of who is managing the team.

Do you have any evidence to base this conclusion on? The last time we brought in a big name manager - what happened to the team payroll? Big name managers, and Sandberg is the biggest name out there, generate excitement which generates revenue. Without the high revenue projections there will not be a high projected payroll.

What's the one single thing that Cubs management could do to help them get to 3 million tickets next year?

As a non-Chicagoan, I don't think that Sandberg is a bigger name than Joe Girardi. Perhaps you are commenting on what Chicago feels is the biggest name. I would not say that, as a Cub fan from elsewhere, having Ryno as the Manager is more likely to draw me to Wrigley than having Girardi there.

TCR readers are not typical Cubs fans.

I'm not sure where I said the manager makes a difference in revenues. I stated that I'd prefer that the manager be chosen for baseball reasons, rather than P.R. reasons. I am far from qualified to determine whether Ryne Sandberg is a better manager than the other candidates; maybe he is. If it turns out Sandberg is legitimately the best manager for the team, then I'm all for hiring him. But, I don't want the hiring decision to be based solely on "who's going to make Cubs fans happier?"

Also, I don't have any evidence on which to base the assertion that hiring a certain manager is going to jack up the payroll. But, it should be fairly clear why they're not going to expand the budget for a certain manager. a) The budget is probably more or less set for next year, within a certain range, as the Cubs probably have financial planning processes in place to estimate future expenditures b) they spent more money because Zell was trying to flip the team for profit, not because Lou demanded it, and c), and this is a less solid reason, but I find it hard to believe the Cubs can estimate the financial impact of hiring one guy over another, to the extent that they know exactly how many dollars they're able to add to payroll. I'm pretty sure there's no chart sitting around Crane Kenney's office that says "Ryne Sandberg = $15.2M extra revenues, Joe Girardi = $14.0M extra revenues, Bob Brenly = $5M extra revenues, Mike Quade = $10M less revenues".

I do agree with you that hiring Sandberg would generate more buzz around the team than hiring Quade would, and again, I'm no insider and I don't have access to the Cubs' books (though I would've loved to see them on that Deadspin posting), but I doubt the results of that decision would make a big difference on the actual 2011 budget.

But, I don't want the hiring decision to be based solely on "who's going to make Cubs fans happier?"

Just about EVERY decision made by the Cubs organization is based solely on "who is going to make Cubs fans happier". Remember this GM that leaked sensitive internal information to the press in order to run Sosa out of town. All baseball teams make EVERY decision based solely on who is going to make their fans happier. They balance potential revenues against the costs to drive those revenues. Sandberg is going to be a slam dunk. When signing a draft pick they say "will spending an extra $500K, pay off in TV revenue and gate revenue in the future?" Maybe there's a manager that they think has a good chance to help the Cubs win 2-3 more games than Sandberg, but when you weigh that against the public relations (or revenue or good feeling or whatever you want to call it) boost of putting the most popular Cub of the last 40 years at the helm of the team, it's a no brainer. In sort of an "I think of absolutes and Joe Girardi will definitely win 3 more games than Ryne Sandberg will in 2011" sort of non-sensical thinking, you've got a valid point. In the real world would you trade a 100% chance at $10 million for a 25% chance at $20 million? No, and you will soon see, neither will the Ricketts family.

To pretend that they could guarantee that any manager would definitely put the Cubs in the playoffs in 2011, and that Sandberg definitely wouldn't - well, it's just not operating in the real world of business or baseball.

I'm having a blast reading this back-and-forth, and think there're good points on both sides.

I disagree that EVERY (even in all caps) decision is made based on the fans, and here's why--the Yankees have more fans than anybody not solely because they're in NY, but because they're a dynasty through and through. They know before starting next year that their gross income based on merch alone is going to be higher than other teams, which gives them more flexibility on the baseball side. I'm willing to bet what Ricketts wants more than anything is the Cubs to be the Yankees of the NL; winning long-term is what keeps the fans AND dollars rolling in long-term, and the empty seats at the end of this summer are evidence that the Cubs' fan base has finally joined the rest of the baseball universe (TCR excepted, we tend to be die-hards).

And as far as the Sandberg conversation specifically, Girardi is an anomaly, the only one. Your Ryno vs. Girardi math applies to every other managerial choice except Joe Girardi. The reasons why are he, too, is an ex-Cub (although obviously not on the Sandberg level, still true), his track record (especially with the Marlins in his FIRST YEAR), and his WS ring.

Because of all this, Ricketts needs to look at, yes, the nigh-guaranteed money Sandberg brings NEXT YEAR vs. which ex-Cub has the better chance of beginning the Cubs (Ricketts) dynasty. This all makes Girardi look like a better choice, especially if you can convince them both (and it actually works in practice) to have Ryno come up as his bench coach. PLUS, you've got your insurance right there on the bench if Girardi's overpaid and can't get it done. Lots of 'ifs'.

One more side note, Ricketts needs to start his winning ways with the next Cashman/Epstein/etc, probably someone we've all never heard of. Even in his "Hendry is our GM going into next year" soundbite that came with Lou's retirement, Ricketts didn't sound too married to the idea. I'm betting that whichever manager they go with, if it's not producing results pretty quick, Hendry is gone by a year from Christmas.

Didn't the Cubs higher Lou Piniella in order to make a bigger PR splash with a guy who already had a ring and was a well-known name across the country?

Submitted by Charlie on Wed, 08/25/2010 - 9:09am.
Didn't the Cubs higher Lou Piniella in order to make a bigger PR splash with a guy who already had a ring and was a well-known name across the country?

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CHARLIE: Yes, but to sign Piniella, the Cubs had to convince him that they would spend big bucks to sign high-priced premier free-agents post-2006 (which in fact they did).

It seems like Colvin could give the team the kind of production they expect from Soriano in a good year. And unlike the current LF, he isn't distracted and jaking it all the time.

I feel obliged to point out that their numbers are just about identical this year. Soriano hasn't been jaking it all year and he's actually finally learned how to play left field, which is nice.

Learned how to play LF? Which Soriano are we talking about?

Anybody notice that Pujols is one point behind Votto in BA, and leads the league in HR and RBI?

Triple Crown? At least until Castro gets a few more PAs.

Believe it or not, watch Omar Infante. If he keeps hitting, he might have it in the pocket.

I'd expect Infante's numbers to plummet as he experiences being a full time major leaguer in September for the first time. He's going to have to play every day to get to the PA threshold.

He's currently up by 20 points, so he doesn't need to quite get to the 502 PA threshold. He might be able to get to 480 or so and take outs for the last 20 PAs if the average stays up.

20 PA's is going to be a .016 hit to his BA, fwiw.

Anyone paying attention to Deadspins MLB team financials being exposed?

The most appalling is what the Marlins did in sticking their community with an estimated 2.4 billion dollar price tag through 2049 while crying poor.

I looked at the Pirates one briefly and it say they were expecting like $2 million in central pool money...

Ex-3B Charles Thomas (Cubs 2009 10th round pick out of Edward Waters College) made his debut as a pitcher last night for the AZL Cubs. The 6'4 230 Thomas throws in the mid-90's, and had an easy 1-2-3 inning with one K.

ryno tossed yesterday for 4th time; came out of dugout in top of 9th w/ team down a run to argue a 'ball' call on a 3/2 pitch w/ bases loaded...fleita in town & told des moines register that the organization has committed to samardzija as a starter [been starting regularly since mid-season]; says his "needle still points north..."

That needle is pointing North, but I think it might be pointing to Soldier Field....

Might be more accurate to say he is learning to play left field.

Thanks AZ Phil.

It is nice to hear from you again!

I understand what you mean about Sandberg not being able perhaps to deal with incompetence, and he would certainly be maddened by it on the North Side!

Do you believe that Brenly or Listash have any legitimate chance as a Cubs managerial player, or would interviews be purely Hendry's sign of "veteran courtesy"?

Personally, I cannot fathom why Girardi would even entertain joining this mess when he is running a squad that has the potential to be in the Playoffs every year.And, of course, there would be the matter of Ricketts coming up with the money Girardi required.

Unless they've lifted that rule, Hendry still has to interview a "minority" candidate, doesn't he? Or is that just the NFL? I lose track of all the PC odditities we do in sports nowadays.

Submitted by The Real Neal on Wed, 08/25/2010 - 10:27am.
Unless they've lifted that rule, Hendry still has to interview a "minority" candidate, doesn't he?

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REAL NEAL: Yes. And that will be Pat Listach. He was also the "minority candidate" four years ago.

Pinhead would count for that.

Submitted by The E-Man on Wed, 08/25/2010 - 10:20am.
Thanks AZ Phil.

It is nice to hear from you again!

I understand what you mean about Sandberg not being able perhaps to deal with incompetence, and he would certainly be maddened by it on the North Side!

Do you believe that Brenly or Listash have any legitimate chance as a Cubs managerial player, or would interviews be purely Hendry's sign of "veteran courtesy"?

Personally, I cannot fathom why Girardi would even entertain joining this mess when he is running a squad that has the potential to be in the Playoffs every year.And, of course, there would be the matter of Ricketts coming up with the money Girardi required.

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E-MAN: I think right now it's between Sandberg and Girardi. Bob Brenly might become Hendry's favorite if Girardi backs away, but Ricketts (supposedly) really wants Sandberg, and he is the owner.

Pat Listach will (just like last time) almost certainly be the required minority candidate interview, and he could be the next Cubs bench coach. Brenly would make a good bench coach for Sandberg, but he probably would prefer to stay in the booth until an MLB managerial job becomes available.

Assuming Sandberg becomes manager and Listash becomes bench coach. Who rounds out the staff?

Rudy Jar stays on as hitting coach
Rothchild seems firmly entrenched as PC

Denier?
DeJesus?
Chico Walker?

Is Bobby Dickerson still around anywhere?

DeJesus won't work with Sandberg because Ryno keeps rubbing his nose in it about the big trade.

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Wed, 08/25/2010 - 10:49am.
Assuming Sandberg becomes manager and Listash becomes bench coach. Who rounds out the staff?

Rudy Jar stays on as hitting coach
Rothchild seems firmly entrenched as PC

Denier?
DeJesus?
Chico Walker?

Is Bobby Dickerson still around anywhere?

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DR AARON B: I doubt that Mike Quade will return to the coaching staff, although he could remain in the organization in the Player Development Dept.

Rudy Jaramillo is a lock to return.

Minor League Pitching Coordinator Mark Riggins (former Cardinals MLB Pitching Coach) could (should) replace Larry Rothschild as Pitching Coach.

No matter who the next manager is, I would think Bob Dernier will probably be on the coaching staff in 2011 as either the 1st base or 3rd base coach. Ivan DeJesus could very well be the infield & 3rd base coach, unless he shows really poor judgment there the last month of the season. Minor League Field Coordinator Dave Bialas is another possibility for 3rd base coach.

And the new manager gets to name at least one coach, maybe two ("Special Assistant" and/or possibly the 1st base coach, bench coach, or bullpen coach). If Girardi is the new manager, he will probably get to select two of his coaches (Mike Harkey might be one, as bullpen coach). Sandberg would have less leverage and might get just one pick, and maybe not even a "Special Assistant."

Bobby Dickerson is presently a minor league coordinator in the Orioles organization (he runs the O's Dominican Academy).

Why would Girardi leave NYY? I don't see that happening.

money.

...which of course would make me very happy. we could use a 3-5m dollar manager.

silva...friday, peoria...the long golf cart ride back to the bigs begins.

Iowa closer Brian Schlitter to 7-day DL with a sore shoulder, and LHRP Luke Sommer gets promoted from Tennessee to Iowa.

Sommer was an OF-1B his first season with the Cubs (237/299/401 with AZL Cubs), then was converted to LHP at Extended Spring Training 2008.

Z speaks...

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/08/...

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Does he ever wonder if he'd be pitching like this had he stayed in the rotation from the outset?

"What do you think?" he replied. "The situation we were in, when they moved me to the bullpen, it was kind of weird. But at the same time, they needed somebody in the bullpen in the eighth inning. We were losing a lot of games in the seventh, eighth innings. I think from my perspective we get too desperate too soon. To make that decision, that's OK. But you know what? I'm trying to finish the season strong and trying to be consistent and prepare for this last month."

...in order to impress my next team.

Anyone care to speculate on September call ups/roster moves? Az Phil?

Submitted by ddp33 on Wed, 08/25/2010 - 4:34pm.
Anyone care to speculate on September call ups/roster moves? Az Phil?

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DDP33: Although most of these guys will not be brought up until the conclusion of the PCL playoffs, I suspect pitchers Mitch Atkins, Justin Berg, Jeff Gray, Jeff Samardzija, Brian Schlitter (if his shoulder is OK), and Jeff Stevens, catcher Welington Castillo, and OF Sam Fuld will get recalled from Iowa, Carlos Silva and Esmailin Caridad (if their rehabs progress without any set-backs) will be reactivated from the 15-day DL, and John Grabow will be transferred from the 15-day DL to the 60-day DL to make room for OF Brad Snyder, who will likely be added to the 40-man roster and brought up from Iowa.

Robinson Chirinos will likely get added to the 40-man roster sometime in October (like Brad Snyder, Chirinos is eligible to be a Rule 55 minor league free-agent post-2010 so he has to be added to the 40-man roster no later than the 4th day after the conclusion of the World Series), and RHP Chris Archer, OF Brandon Guyer, and 3B Marquez Smith, and possibly C-1B Steve Clevenger will be added to the 40-man roster on 11/20.

To make room for these additions (plus Angel Guzman and John Grabow reactivated from the 60-day DL no later than 11/20 or the 16th day following the conclusion of the World Series, whichever comes first), six or seven players will need to be dropped from the 40-man roster. Top candidates to get dropped from the 40 during October are Jeff Gray (out of options next season), Justin Berg, Jeff Stevens, Marcos Mateo, and Koyie Hill, and Sam Fuld could get traded (probably to Boston, Baltimore, or Oakland) sooner rather than later. Then Angel Guzman (for sure) and possibly Jeff Baker will get non-tendered on 12/12, and the Cubs will offer Guzman a minor league deal for 2011 so he can continue his rehab at Fitch Park.

Jeff Baker's recent starts in RF would seem to suggest to me that Quade at least doesn't expect him to be non-tendered. I might be reading that wrong, though. And maybe Hendry isn't communicating with Quade about the future roster as much as I hope he is.

Thank you very much! So do you think Snyder makes the team next year? What happens if he has a mediocre or poor September/spring training?

Submitted by ddp33 on Thu, 08/26/2010 - 6:52am.
Thank you very much! So do you think Snyder makes the team next year? What happens if he has a mediocre or poor September/spring training?

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DDP33: Brad Snyder is a five-tool player who could be a late-bloomer.

Or he might be the kind of player who is able to master AAA but can't cross the threshhold to become an everyday MLB player.

But Snyder has showed at Iowa this seaon that he can hit LHP, something that was a problem early in his career and would have left him a platoon OF (at best). His big negative is making contact. He strikes out a LOT.

That said, Snyder will be in MLB with somebody next year. To make it with the Cubs he would have to have a strong September AND Spring Training. He is eligible to be a Rule 55 minor league free-agent (6YMiLFA) post-2010, so if he isn't added to the Cubs 40-man roster by the end of the World Series he will be the #1 6YMiLFA on the market post-2010, and he is out of minor league options, too, so if the Cubs do add him to their 40-man roster and then he does not make the Cubs 2011 Opening Day 25-man roster, Snyder will either be traded or claimed off waivers if the Cubs try to send him to the minors.

As things stand right now, Snyder will be competing with Micah Hoffpauir and Sam Fuld (both will also be out of options in 2011) for a spot on the Cubs 2011 25-man roster (and if he does win a spot, Snyder's role initially would probably be 4th OF and #1 LHPH), but even if he outplays Fuld and Hoffpauir, the Cubs will either have to move Tyler Colvin to 1B or trade Kosuke Fukudome during the off-season to make room for Snyder.

That's why it is important for the Cubs to bring Snyder up ASAP once rosters expand in September, and then give him enough playing time to show what he can (or can't) do.

cubbery...i mean, bravery...no, wait...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=Ago...

dlee picked up his 1000th RBI today

Let it go. Just let it go.

Did we just take our starting pitcher out while he was working on a shutout with 82 pitches?

And the Cubs lead 1-0 as a consequence.

That would be an eventuality, not a consequence, since the score very may well have been 1-0 had Dempster stayed in. Regardless, it was a stupid thing to do.

Let's see, the pinch hitter for Dempster walked to start the inning and the rally and scored to make it 1-0. Yeah, I suppose Dempster could have hit a solo homer had they let him stay in and it would have been 1-0 anyway. Your an idiot.

Eyem an idiot, huh?

Yes, you are.

It is also sad when you have to resort to pointing out typos in posts; an effective way to demonstrate the shallowness of your own argument.

I barely have the time to reply to your drivel, much less double check that it proofread.

Look... I rarely, if ever, defend TRN, but you can't call someone an idiot and use the incorrect "you're."

I agree. It just takes all of the wind out of your (ha!) sails.

Remember:

your
you're

their
there
they're

to
too
two

Damn English language.

too
two
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tutu?
toto too?

higher
hire

Yeah, I saw that one here a day or so ago. First time I ever saw the wrong use of "hire".

I think the worst is "would of" instead of would have.

"All of the sudden" really gets on my nerves. But I try not to voice that, because I realize in most cases there is no reason to.

Supposably is another

"I think the worst is "would of" instead of would have."

Yeah, I also find that pretty cringe-worthy. ~shudder~ Proof that I am a true language usage dweeb.

woulda, coulda, shoulda

or in baseball terms: wooda

then and than get me too. Ugh.

Your [sic] an idiot.

LOL.

Quade not wearing cleats tonight (horseshoes)

Cashner with a couple of improved outings, what did he fix?

they put him in against the Nats lineup?

are no match for Quade!!

Hope they can play spoiler against Reds this weekend, get the Pirates after that. If anything good audition for Quade's future managing prospects.

that dumpster move was just f'n weird...esp with this pen.

...like some of these funky lineups it's working, though.

go scrubbies.

also, soto, that will teach you to K 3 times when you get moved up...enjoy the 7/8 lineup slots.

Fire marshall Bill is 3-0

Lou Piniella is the new Milton Bradley. Didn't the Cubs go like 8-3 after Bradley got suspended (followed by 2-13 or something)?

Jim Marshall meets Bruce Kim?

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