Quade Manager, Sandberg Bench Coach

Will Carroll tweets that Mike Quade will get the manager job for 2011 with Ryne Sandberg being promoted to bench coach.

In related news, I've registered firequade.com.

In future news, calls for Mike Quade to be fired will start around game 5 of next season.

UPDATE: If it wasn't obvious enough from "Will Carroll tweets", this was the beginning stages of a rumor. One in which Carroll then backed off when a guy "who's very WIRED into the Cubs" told him he was wrong, "especially on the timing" (the original tweet said it could be announced as soon as next week). Wittenmyer tweets, "don't believe every tweet you read".

I could not begin to tell you with any type of certainty who is right or wrong or what will happen, but I would say an examination of recent history would lead to the conclusion that Mike Quade is Hendry's choice. If that means anything in the end, I guess we'll find out. Hendry could have very easily gave Sandberg (or Trammell) the interim job after Piniella quit, but chose Quade. Then Quade went and done good, got the backing of the players, all of which most likely justified Hendry's decision in his mind. Whether the Ricketts pull rank on Hendry and insist on Sandberg to create some buzz and sell ticket plans, remains to be seen.

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Bobby Scales, Blake Parker outrighted to Triple A btw

FREE BOBBY SCALES

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 10/14/2010 - 3:54pm.
FREE BOBBY SCALES

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CRUNCH: The Cubs like Bobby Scales a lot, and he could be in line to get a minor league coaching or managing gig or scouting position in the Cubs organization when he retires.

yeah, im just being stupid anyway.

bobby does seem to be well respected by his peers...even ones he's taking playing time from in the minors by sticking around trying to "make it."

shame he's not a better defender.

that would be a good move; scales is worth keeping around in some capacity...

Submitted by Rob G. on Thu, 10/14/2010 - 3:31pm.
Bobby Scales, Blake Parker outrighted to Triple A btw

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ROB G: Because he has been outrighted previously in his career, Bobby Scales can opt for free-agency immediately as an Article XX-B minor league FA (Mike Parisi is the other one). He doesn't have to wait until after the World Series like players eligible to be a Rule 55 minor league FA (6YFA) do.

Blake Parker is not eligible to be an Article XX-B minor league FA or Rule 55 minor league FA, so he will be remaining with in the Cubs organization next season (and he might even get an NRI to ST), unless he gets selected in the December 2010 Rule 5 Draft (which won't happen because if any club was interested enough in him to select him in the Rule 5 Draft, they would have just claimed him off waivers). Parker is not eligible to be a Rule 55 minor league FA until after the 2012 season, unless he gets added back to an MLB 40-man roster in the meantime.

I just hope you get around to building your new Web site quicker than the guy who bought www.firepiniella.com.

Hasn't Sandberg said on multiple occassions that he didnt want to be a bench, hitting or 3rd base coach for a MLB team and that being a AAA manager was better for preparing to be a big league skipper than a MLB assistant?

...then he spent his summers riding on a bus for 3 years. heh...

maybe they pulled a Don Mattingly promise this time that the gig is his in a certain number of years. Doesn't sound like he was a serious manager candidate anywhere else anyway.

Quade is only 2 years older (53 v. 51) than Sandberg, so if Hendry made that sort of promise to Sandberg isn't Hendry assuming that Quade is going to be a failure? Because old age isnt going to be a reason for Quade wanting to leave the job in the next five or so years. Given the talent Sandberg might have at Iowa next year, if no one is really looking at him this year for a managing gig this year isnt Manager of the 2011 PCL champs better on a resume than "Bench Coach for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th place Chicago Cubs".

Frankly I don't know the answer on this, but my hunch is that MLB managers are rarely managing AAA teams the year before they're hired. I could be wrong, but I think Bench Coach on an MLB team is higher profile position.

Most bench coaches and 3rd base coaches aren't in the Hall of Fame, either. People all over baseball said "who the fuck is Mike Quade?", no one is going to say that about Sandberg.

Why does being in the Hall of Fame make you more eligible to manage? Didn't help Ted Williams or Frank Robinson. Sandberg's paid some of his dues, but Quade's coaching experience goes back to the 80s.

He may say that but it doesn't make it true.

Fire Mike Quade!

According to ESPN 1k, Carroll has tweeted again that a Cubs source of his says his report is not true.

http://twitter.com/#!/injuryexpert/status/273...

original tweet is that it could happen next week, his Cubs source says he's wrong, especially about "timing".

that seems more like a non-denial denial to me...

"YOU WERE TOTALLY WRONG, about that one part about when it would be announced."

we shall see...

judging by the fact they gave Quade the job in the first place over Sandberg and his success in the role, he seems obvious as Hendry's top choice.

I could be way off, and I'm not really a conspiracy theorist, but I always viewed Quade getting the job as, hey, the ship is sinking, let's not have Ryno be the one who has to go down with it. Then the players threw a wrench into it by playing far better under Quade.

I might believe this if WC said quade had an ACL reconstruction or sandberg had treatment for a concussion

On second thought, I'd probably question the accuracy there too.

Nobody is gonna scoop Levine, Sully, Muskie or GW on this one.

Agreed.

Nobody is gonna scoop Levine, Sully, Muskie or GW on this one.

Pretty sure, by definition, all but one of those will have to get scooped.

That should have been an "and" but I got what he meant.

I noticed on Rotowire that their blurb on the Carroll-Wittenmeyer rumor-nonrumor, mentioned that Will Carroll is "formerly" of Baseball Prospectus. Anyone know the story there? Is WC finally going to medical school? did he sign on as a medical transcriptionist for Dr Andrews?

...also saw that today is the 7th anniversary of the Bartman game. Ouch.

he left there earlier this month.

evidently the organization was moving in a direction he didn't like...which i guess for some reason rubbed a non-trained injury expert who occasionally mis-uses medical terms for a living the wrong way.

*shrug*

http://willcarroll.tumblr.com/post/1222553064...

and

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php...

while he's no Dr. Hecht/Cubster, he deserves much credit for being the first to open up the world of sports medicines and injuries to us laymen.

True story: Looking back on the decade of the 2000's, the Bartman game changed the world more than any other single event.

Never forget. * Salute

Pretty sure, by definition, all but one of those will have to get scooped.
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My thinking is that we will have to check the seconds column on their twitter timestamp to see who will be the winner on this one

If I'm Quade, having Sandberg there is too much pressure. Ryno has campaigned too actively and publicly for the manager's job. I can't imagine that Hendry would want to give Quade the job on that basis.

if you're Mike Quade, I don't think you get to dictate the terms of your employment as manager of the Cubs.

You say thank you very much and know that you're on the hot seat starting Day 1.

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/4758

Hendry was ready to give Soriano six years, but his bosses, feeling generous, added two years on to the deal.

and

In the fall of 2000, MacPhail offered pitcher Mike Hampton more than $100 million to sign with the Cubs (Hampton chose the Rockies and the Denver school system).

Is there a bigger Hendry apologist on the planet than Dunce Miles? All this guy has done since the beginning of the Ricketts era is try to acquit Hendry of all the bad decisions he made, or signed off on, during the Wrigley/Zell era.

Hendry was given a significantly escalating payroll and told to win. He used that incredible financial flexibility to sign a long string of overvalued, back-loaded contracts to players with significant deficiencies in the elements of their skills.

Now Miles would have us believe that all of these decisions were being made from on high, against the will of the general manager, who apparently kept his mouth shut and cashed his million-dollar paychecks without actually doing his job. Except, of course, when a deal worked out, like Ted Lilly, who Hendry bravely signed with one hand on his Blackberry and other beating death away.

I used to respect Miles the most of the Big Four beat reporters, but his recent behavior in respect to acquitting Hendry has been downright shameful.

are you confusing Levine and Miles?

not that Miles isn't guilty of it at times, but Levine is far worse at sucking Hendry's ass.

but if that is the truth on Soriano signing, it should be put out there and would help explain why Hendry still magically keeps his job.

it is also the 2nd time, the other coming from Levine I believe, that we've heard that Soriano for 8 years wasn't what Hendry wanted to do.

Hendry was given a significantly escalating payroll and told to win. He used that incredible financial flexibility to sign a long string of overvalued, back-loaded contracts to players with significant deficiencies in the elements of their skills.

Soriano, Fukudome and ?

-edit- I've apparently stricken Milton Bradley from my brain.

if you say Aramis and Lee, you deserve a punch in the mouth.

Other recent contracts (2006-09) that were either bad or at least a misallocation of resources: JJones, Marquis, Eyre, Howry, Miles, and - lest we forget - Bradley.

payroll didn't really go up until 2007

forgot Marquis, and guess you can include Z, but the deal at the time was more than fair for his performance and age.

lest we forget the ones though that he got more value than what he paid...

DeRosa, Lilly, Byrd, Dempster, before his new deal (and his new deal has definitely been on par with performance), R. Johnson, J. Edmonds,

It is easy to kick this horse. Let me put on my steel-toed boots to help.

HOWEVER: My jaw dropped in disbelief when the Cubs signed the #1 FA that year. Coveted. Incredible previous year. And, JD Drew was the next in line for an offer. That was about it at this level.

So, I for one was absolutely ecstatic that my team FINALLY spent the "big dough" under the team president's leadership. Hendry built the team that could "win it all". And, in 2008, the team had its zenith with 97 wins and was set up to at the very least, make it to the NLCS. None of us predicted that Dempster would walk 18 guys and give up a Loney Grand Slam to start the pile of shit that we all watched afterwards in games 2 and 3.

I admit to being blind to the long-term consequences after coming up empty here. They are severe. The team's window got slammed down, and "that is that".

But, I can't fault Hendry for at least trying. I did wish, however, I had someone else spending the money that I respect more. I mean, in a fantasy world - what would Jocketty, Schuerholdz, et. al. have done with $140MM?

So now that this formula has failed, the team will try the other route of emphasis on farm and a few FA's. But still will not have an "Ace" on the staff of the caliber we are watching in the Final Four currently.

Wilken drafted one of those aces, arguably the best one.

Halladay was 18 when he was drafted, Trey McNutt was 19 (out of a CC). Their first full seasons in the minors were comparable: Halladay was 15-7 at high A, McNutt 10-1 at three levels including AA. McNutt started two pressure playoff games for Tennessee, and had this line:

11 innings, 9 hits, 3 runs, 3 ER, 4 walks, 12 strikeouts.

Nice job by a 20-year-old who started the season in Peoria.

Then there's Archer, Carpenter, Cashner, etc.

Relax, E-Man, all we have to worry about is getting rid of Soriano. I think ultimately the Cubs will have to give away a couple of very good prospects just to get someone to pay something for Soriano, so the Cubs can save money and Hendry can save face. That's the sort of thing I worry about.

mcnutt started 2009 throwing high 80, was hitting 91-92mph by the time draft time rolled around and showed up in 2010 hitting mid-90s. good stuff for a 81931739th rounder even though he got paid over slot.

E-Man, great stuff. I unequivocally agree about Soriano; that signing was a statement (whether it turned out to be misguided or not).

As for an ace, I regularly bash Zambrano, here and elsewhere, but it is very hard to argue with his post-meltdown starts. Not saying it erases anything, not saying it'll continue (in Chicago or elsewhere, if that were to happen), but the man pitched like an ace the last month or however long.

It's a mistake to sign a player as a statement. Sign a player because he's a good investment.

The statement is part of the value of the investment.

Until the player turns out to be mediocre and then becomes a statement about how poorly the team invests their money. Spend money wisely, if in large sums, and the statements will take care of themselves.

One from the list bites the dust...

PWSullivan: @SI_JonHeyman reports Eric Wedge in at Seattle, reunited with old pal Milton Bradley.

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  • "trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo."

    that's from my 1st post. there's no suck involved in that. maybe with a few less posts about bullshit that point would have jumped out more.

    crunch 29 min 44 sec ago view
  • crunch - you do know that, taking defense out of the equation, Trout has led the AL in wRC+ each of those years, right?

    And, if you want to complain about position adjustment (which would be serious #crunchsplaining), he's been in the top 3 in the AL in WC (not park/league/position adjusted). And the only players ahead of him (if there were any players ahead of him) in any of those years have been DHs or 1B that play lousy defense.

    But sure - Trout sucks (or at least isn't as good as WAR says). Because it factors in defense and position.

    big_lowitzki 1 hour 34 min ago view
  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 2 hours 19 min ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 6 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 4 hours 7 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 14 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 4 hours 50 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 4 hours 50 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 4 hours 53 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 4 hours 56 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 4 hours 57 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 5 hours 1 min ago view
  • i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.

    the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some people...to me...i'm some people...hurrah.

    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 5 hours 14 min ago view
  • I read it as him saying it's not really that much of a concern and that the one time it really cost Lester, vs. K.C., was an anomaly.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 19 min ago view
  • if jeff says it, it's cool...when i say it, it's straight from the mouth of hitler.

    aside from the lack of jeff touching on the insane leads runners take and lester's inability to throw if he's fielding, this is a lot of what i've said about the issue.

    exploitable, needs his own personal catcher to control his shortcomings, relies on his ability to get outs along with his personal catcher keeping runners in check before things become further exploited...

    crunch 5 hours 21 min ago view
  • That would be Rice Krispy Treat

    The E-Man 6 hours 40 min ago view