Quade Manager, Sandberg Bench Coach

Will Carroll tweets that Mike Quade will get the manager job for 2011 with Ryne Sandberg being promoted to bench coach.

In related news, I've registered firequade.com.

In future news, calls for Mike Quade to be fired will start around game 5 of next season.

UPDATE: If it wasn't obvious enough from "Will Carroll tweets", this was the beginning stages of a rumor. One in which Carroll then backed off when a guy "who's very WIRED into the Cubs" told him he was wrong, "especially on the timing" (the original tweet said it could be announced as soon as next week). Wittenmyer tweets, "don't believe every tweet you read".

I could not begin to tell you with any type of certainty who is right or wrong or what will happen, but I would say an examination of recent history would lead to the conclusion that Mike Quade is Hendry's choice. If that means anything in the end, I guess we'll find out. Hendry could have very easily gave Sandberg (or Trammell) the interim job after Piniella quit, but chose Quade. Then Quade went and done good, got the backing of the players, all of which most likely justified Hendry's decision in his mind. Whether the Ricketts pull rank on Hendry and insist on Sandberg to create some buzz and sell ticket plans, remains to be seen.

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Bobby Scales, Blake Parker outrighted to Triple A btw

FREE BOBBY SCALES

Submitted by crunch on Thu, 10/14/2010 - 3:54pm.
FREE BOBBY SCALES

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CRUNCH: The Cubs like Bobby Scales a lot, and he could be in line to get a minor league coaching or managing gig or scouting position in the Cubs organization when he retires.

yeah, im just being stupid anyway.

bobby does seem to be well respected by his peers...even ones he's taking playing time from in the minors by sticking around trying to "make it."

shame he's not a better defender.

that would be a good move; scales is worth keeping around in some capacity...

Submitted by Rob G. on Thu, 10/14/2010 - 3:31pm.
Bobby Scales, Blake Parker outrighted to Triple A btw

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ROB G: Because he has been outrighted previously in his career, Bobby Scales can opt for free-agency immediately as an Article XX-B minor league FA (Mike Parisi is the other one). He doesn't have to wait until after the World Series like players eligible to be a Rule 55 minor league FA (6YFA) do.

Blake Parker is not eligible to be an Article XX-B minor league FA or Rule 55 minor league FA, so he will be remaining with in the Cubs organization next season (and he might even get an NRI to ST), unless he gets selected in the December 2010 Rule 5 Draft (which won't happen because if any club was interested enough in him to select him in the Rule 5 Draft, they would have just claimed him off waivers). Parker is not eligible to be a Rule 55 minor league FA until after the 2012 season, unless he gets added back to an MLB 40-man roster in the meantime.

I just hope you get around to building your new Web site quicker than the guy who bought www.firepiniella.com.

Hasn't Sandberg said on multiple occassions that he didnt want to be a bench, hitting or 3rd base coach for a MLB team and that being a AAA manager was better for preparing to be a big league skipper than a MLB assistant?

...then he spent his summers riding on a bus for 3 years. heh...

maybe they pulled a Don Mattingly promise this time that the gig is his in a certain number of years. Doesn't sound like he was a serious manager candidate anywhere else anyway.

Quade is only 2 years older (53 v. 51) than Sandberg, so if Hendry made that sort of promise to Sandberg isn't Hendry assuming that Quade is going to be a failure? Because old age isnt going to be a reason for Quade wanting to leave the job in the next five or so years. Given the talent Sandberg might have at Iowa next year, if no one is really looking at him this year for a managing gig this year isnt Manager of the 2011 PCL champs better on a resume than "Bench Coach for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th place Chicago Cubs".

Frankly I don't know the answer on this, but my hunch is that MLB managers are rarely managing AAA teams the year before they're hired. I could be wrong, but I think Bench Coach on an MLB team is higher profile position.

Most bench coaches and 3rd base coaches aren't in the Hall of Fame, either. People all over baseball said "who the fuck is Mike Quade?", no one is going to say that about Sandberg.

Why does being in the Hall of Fame make you more eligible to manage? Didn't help Ted Williams or Frank Robinson. Sandberg's paid some of his dues, but Quade's coaching experience goes back to the 80s.

He may say that but it doesn't make it true.

Fire Mike Quade!

According to ESPN 1k, Carroll has tweeted again that a Cubs source of his says his report is not true.

http://twitter.com/#!/injuryexpert/status/273...

original tweet is that it could happen next week, his Cubs source says he's wrong, especially about "timing".

that seems more like a non-denial denial to me...

"YOU WERE TOTALLY WRONG, about that one part about when it would be announced."

we shall see...

judging by the fact they gave Quade the job in the first place over Sandberg and his success in the role, he seems obvious as Hendry's top choice.

I could be way off, and I'm not really a conspiracy theorist, but I always viewed Quade getting the job as, hey, the ship is sinking, let's not have Ryno be the one who has to go down with it. Then the players threw a wrench into it by playing far better under Quade.

I might believe this if WC said quade had an ACL reconstruction or sandberg had treatment for a concussion

On second thought, I'd probably question the accuracy there too.

Nobody is gonna scoop Levine, Sully, Muskie or GW on this one.

Agreed.

Nobody is gonna scoop Levine, Sully, Muskie or GW on this one.

Pretty sure, by definition, all but one of those will have to get scooped.

That should have been an "and" but I got what he meant.

I noticed on Rotowire that their blurb on the Carroll-Wittenmeyer rumor-nonrumor, mentioned that Will Carroll is "formerly" of Baseball Prospectus. Anyone know the story there? Is WC finally going to medical school? did he sign on as a medical transcriptionist for Dr Andrews?

...also saw that today is the 7th anniversary of the Bartman game. Ouch.

he left there earlier this month.

evidently the organization was moving in a direction he didn't like...which i guess for some reason rubbed a non-trained injury expert who occasionally mis-uses medical terms for a living the wrong way.

*shrug*

http://willcarroll.tumblr.com/post/1222553064...

and

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php...

while he's no Dr. Hecht/Cubster, he deserves much credit for being the first to open up the world of sports medicines and injuries to us laymen.

True story: Looking back on the decade of the 2000's, the Bartman game changed the world more than any other single event.

Never forget. * Salute

Pretty sure, by definition, all but one of those will have to get scooped.
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My thinking is that we will have to check the seconds column on their twitter timestamp to see who will be the winner on this one

If I'm Quade, having Sandberg there is too much pressure. Ryno has campaigned too actively and publicly for the manager's job. I can't imagine that Hendry would want to give Quade the job on that basis.

if you're Mike Quade, I don't think you get to dictate the terms of your employment as manager of the Cubs.

You say thank you very much and know that you're on the hot seat starting Day 1.

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/4758

Hendry was ready to give Soriano six years, but his bosses, feeling generous, added two years on to the deal.

and

In the fall of 2000, MacPhail offered pitcher Mike Hampton more than $100 million to sign with the Cubs (Hampton chose the Rockies and the Denver school system).

Is there a bigger Hendry apologist on the planet than Dunce Miles? All this guy has done since the beginning of the Ricketts era is try to acquit Hendry of all the bad decisions he made, or signed off on, during the Wrigley/Zell era.

Hendry was given a significantly escalating payroll and told to win. He used that incredible financial flexibility to sign a long string of overvalued, back-loaded contracts to players with significant deficiencies in the elements of their skills.

Now Miles would have us believe that all of these decisions were being made from on high, against the will of the general manager, who apparently kept his mouth shut and cashed his million-dollar paychecks without actually doing his job. Except, of course, when a deal worked out, like Ted Lilly, who Hendry bravely signed with one hand on his Blackberry and other beating death away.

I used to respect Miles the most of the Big Four beat reporters, but his recent behavior in respect to acquitting Hendry has been downright shameful.

are you confusing Levine and Miles?

not that Miles isn't guilty of it at times, but Levine is far worse at sucking Hendry's ass.

but if that is the truth on Soriano signing, it should be put out there and would help explain why Hendry still magically keeps his job.

it is also the 2nd time, the other coming from Levine I believe, that we've heard that Soriano for 8 years wasn't what Hendry wanted to do.

Hendry was given a significantly escalating payroll and told to win. He used that incredible financial flexibility to sign a long string of overvalued, back-loaded contracts to players with significant deficiencies in the elements of their skills.

Soriano, Fukudome and ?

-edit- I've apparently stricken Milton Bradley from my brain.

if you say Aramis and Lee, you deserve a punch in the mouth.

Other recent contracts (2006-09) that were either bad or at least a misallocation of resources: JJones, Marquis, Eyre, Howry, Miles, and - lest we forget - Bradley.

payroll didn't really go up until 2007

forgot Marquis, and guess you can include Z, but the deal at the time was more than fair for his performance and age.

lest we forget the ones though that he got more value than what he paid...

DeRosa, Lilly, Byrd, Dempster, before his new deal (and his new deal has definitely been on par with performance), R. Johnson, J. Edmonds,

It is easy to kick this horse. Let me put on my steel-toed boots to help.

HOWEVER: My jaw dropped in disbelief when the Cubs signed the #1 FA that year. Coveted. Incredible previous year. And, JD Drew was the next in line for an offer. That was about it at this level.

So, I for one was absolutely ecstatic that my team FINALLY spent the "big dough" under the team president's leadership. Hendry built the team that could "win it all". And, in 2008, the team had its zenith with 97 wins and was set up to at the very least, make it to the NLCS. None of us predicted that Dempster would walk 18 guys and give up a Loney Grand Slam to start the pile of shit that we all watched afterwards in games 2 and 3.

I admit to being blind to the long-term consequences after coming up empty here. They are severe. The team's window got slammed down, and "that is that".

But, I can't fault Hendry for at least trying. I did wish, however, I had someone else spending the money that I respect more. I mean, in a fantasy world - what would Jocketty, Schuerholdz, et. al. have done with $140MM?

So now that this formula has failed, the team will try the other route of emphasis on farm and a few FA's. But still will not have an "Ace" on the staff of the caliber we are watching in the Final Four currently.

Wilken drafted one of those aces, arguably the best one.

Halladay was 18 when he was drafted, Trey McNutt was 19 (out of a CC). Their first full seasons in the minors were comparable: Halladay was 15-7 at high A, McNutt 10-1 at three levels including AA. McNutt started two pressure playoff games for Tennessee, and had this line:

11 innings, 9 hits, 3 runs, 3 ER, 4 walks, 12 strikeouts.

Nice job by a 20-year-old who started the season in Peoria.

Then there's Archer, Carpenter, Cashner, etc.

Relax, E-Man, all we have to worry about is getting rid of Soriano. I think ultimately the Cubs will have to give away a couple of very good prospects just to get someone to pay something for Soriano, so the Cubs can save money and Hendry can save face. That's the sort of thing I worry about.

mcnutt started 2009 throwing high 80, was hitting 91-92mph by the time draft time rolled around and showed up in 2010 hitting mid-90s. good stuff for a 81931739th rounder even though he got paid over slot.

E-Man, great stuff. I unequivocally agree about Soriano; that signing was a statement (whether it turned out to be misguided or not).

As for an ace, I regularly bash Zambrano, here and elsewhere, but it is very hard to argue with his post-meltdown starts. Not saying it erases anything, not saying it'll continue (in Chicago or elsewhere, if that were to happen), but the man pitched like an ace the last month or however long.

It's a mistake to sign a player as a statement. Sign a player because he's a good investment.

The statement is part of the value of the investment.

Until the player turns out to be mediocre and then becomes a statement about how poorly the team invests their money. Spend money wisely, if in large sums, and the statements will take care of themselves.

One from the list bites the dust...

PWSullivan: @SI_JonHeyman reports Eric Wedge in at Seattle, reunited with old pal Milton Bradley.

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  • this makes the most sense. the team could use a replacement in the pen when chapman leaves and bryant could fetch a nice pen arm...maybe...there's a bit of concern about bryant's poor hitting in clutch situations.

    bryant has served his purpose...time to move on and let the kids play. you're next russell.

    crunch 1 min 33 sec ago view
  • I think it will be damn funny if they send Stella down after Coghlan gets back.

    Old and Blue 3 min 44 sec ago view
  • STELLA!!!!!!!

    Old and Blue 4 min 41 sec ago view
  • Trade Bryant?

    Old and Blue 5 min 22 sec ago view
  • I think Jones held up part of your sentence at third while the rest ran through the sign.

    Jackstraw 40 min 41 sec ago view
  • has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?”

    crunch 1 hour 41 min ago view
  • I agree -- I think if you are a soft-tosser, you need a track record before you are taken seriously. If Kyle posts sub-3.00 ERA consistently and wins 15+ games a few times (and pitches more innings), he may have a shot at the award in a few years. Hopefully, he gets in the top 5 this year -- would be deserved and a nice boost for his confidence.

    billybucks 2 hours 5 min ago view
  • It's also possible that the Cubs have no intention of recalling Spencer Patton. Perhaps Maddon has seen enough of him, and Patton will eventually be one of the players cut to make room for others who will be added to the 40 in September.

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 7 min ago view
  • I doesn't know what your talking about.

    Sonicwind75 2 hours 12 min ago view
  • Maybe it's to get him some game action. He's only pitched for the Cubs once in the last 10 days. I don't really care much about him going down since he's sucked when up here.

    I really want Rivero to be called up.

    chitownmvp01 2 hours 17 min ago view
  • CHITOWNMVP01: It is indeed odd that the Cubs did not just wait one more day to recall LaStella.

    As far as Spencer Patton is concerned...

    Arizona Phil 2 hours 25 min ago view
  • Why didn't they wait until tomorrow to call up TLS? Don't they have to wait 10 days to bring Patton back up now?

    chitownmvp01 2 hours 46 min ago view
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    James Farris, RHRP
    Ian Happ, 2B-OF
    Eloy Jimenez, OF
    Ryan McNeil, RHRP
    Steve Perakslis, RHRP
    Duane Underwood Jr, RHSP

    Brian Lawrence, Pitching Coach

    Jimenez, Happ, Caratini and Underwood are among the Cubs Top 10 Prospects, and playing in the AFL should help speed their development.

    Arizona Phil 3 hours 20 min ago view
  • Outstanding.

    Jackstraw 3 hours 33 min ago view
  • So presuming he remains on the MLB Active List for the balance of the MLB regular season, Tommy LaStella will be at 2+102 MLB Service Time at the end of the season, far short of what he would have needed to accrue to have a chance at "Super Two" status post-2016. (Even if he had remained on the MLB Active List for the entire season and finished at 2+124 MLB Service Time, he still would have only been "on the bubble" for possible "Super Two" status post-2016).

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 8 min ago view
  • I don't know about the defensive part of the equation, the fact all the Cubs pitchers are so ahead of their FIP makes me think it's a lot more defense than anything special Hendricks is doing.

    Rob G. 4 hours 12 min ago view