Prospecting: Jackson and Vitters Make Some Lists

Jonathan Mayo,'s minor league guy is running a list of top 10 prospects for each position in the minors leading up to his top 50 minor league prospects that will air on Tuesday on the MLB network. It appears he's gone through everything but the pitchers so far and two Cubs can be found - Brett Jackson and Josh Vitters.

Vitters #7 out of all minor league third basemen:

Chicago pushed Vitters up to Double-A when it had a hole to fill, and while he didn't put up good numbers at all, the organization was pleased with how he prepared and dealt with the adversity. He still has the great swing, bat speed and raw power that made him the No. 3 overall pick in the 2007 Draft. He hasn't been so great at making adjustments and doesn't draw walks at all. He's not great defensively, but has a good arm and should be able to stay at the hot corner. The 2011 season could be a big one for Vitters.

Jackson #6 out of all minor league outfielders:

Taken in the first round in 2009, Jackson jumped on the fast track by making it to Double-A in his first full season. While his individual tools may not grade out as plus, he can do a little bit of everything. He hit 12 homers and stole 30 bases last year, and there should be more power coming. While he strikes out a lot, he'll also draw some walks and he's capable of playing all over the outfield. With Brandon Guyer gone, Jackson could be the first outfielder the Cubs call up from the Minors
when the need arises.

C | 1B | 2B | SS | 3B | OF

I imagine Trey McNutt would be the only pitcher that could make the top pitchers and I don't think we'll see him there. For all the love of Hak-Ju Lee - and I do like him myself - he didn't even crack the top 10 shortstops.

Also, the Cubs will pick 9th next year in the first round of the draft.


Hendry tells him that he imagines a Jackson(LF), Szczur(CF), Colvin(RF) outfield by 2014

No one saw it, but I just rolled my eyes.

I saw it. I have total control of your webcam. BTW, you need to trim your nose hair.

still waiting on Felipe Lopez before supplemental picks are locked, but Cubs 2nd round pick will be 59th or 60th (8th pick of the 2nd round).

2 Cubs games, WSux vs. Cubs(24th) and Cubs vs. Rangers (26th)

10 players to have 200+ hits and less than 80 runs scored

Amazing when you consider Ichiro hit/ran HIMSELF into scoring position 75 times last year -- 30 doubles, 3 triples and 42 stolen bases -- and was only batted in 68 times TOTAL by other hitters.

I find it just as fascinating that the Mariners answer to having one of the worst offenses I've ever seen is to trade for Brendan Ryan and sign Jack Cust.

Joe Sewell for the 1925 Indians is the most interesting - .400 OBP and played for a team with Tris Speaker. Of course their manager had Speaker, who put up a 1057 OPS that year sacrifice 11 times.. I guess he should have complained to his manager, Tris Speaker, about it.

That team also featured Cliff Lee.

... and Jamie Moyer, John Franco, and Ruben Sierra

4/$27M extension

I believe that one does net the Reds a FA season.

Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence for late-inning heroics, as the likely group of Fukodome, Barney, Hill, DeWitt (on days when Baker starts) and Perez/R. Johnson (both of whom have injury issues) doesn't have a whole lot of pop.

You could probably count the number of pinch hit game winning HR's for all of MLB in 2010 on one hand.

Carlos Pena and Cubs hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo started work in the batting cage this past week in Dallas.

It seems that there is a world of difference in how humbling .196 and .207 can be perceived.

from QuietMan's link...

RJ(regarding ARam): "I took a lot of stuff that I usually don't"

"If [Ramirez] wants to keep playing, then they'll compete and do something this year," Jaramillo said. "He should be motivated, but the whole key is does he want to continue playing? He's got all the money in the world. I think he'll do a lot better. Our rapport is a lot better. I took a lot of stuff that I usually don't, but I had to be patient and I think it'll work out in the end."

Both Ramirez and Lee said they felt they were their own best hitting coaches and, as veterans, knew their swing better than anyone. It took time for Jaramillo to build up a relationship with the third baseman. Ramirez also said he wasn't healthy last year, which contributed to his .207 average in the first half.

At the end of last season, Ramirez did go the batting cage more and asked for some assistance. When asked at the Cubs Convention about his relationship with Jaramillo, Ramirez said it was good. "I believe he trusts me more," Jaramillo said. "Some guys are harder than others."


anyone watch their Comedy Central show? wonder if it's any good...

I assume most folks have seen this by now

Wannstedt taking assistant head coach job with the Bills

Speaking of, Jauron taking DC job at Cleveland

The All-Underrated Team

....over the last 50 seasons only two other 20-year-olds have had a season in which they matched or beat Castro's batting average (.300), on-base percentage (.347) and slugging percentage (.408). Good chance you've heard of them: Alex Rodriguez in 1996 and Kenneth Griffey Jr. in 1990. But even if you go all the way back to 1939, the only other guys who have done it are Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Al Kaline and Vada Pinson.

Neat, but I bet if you check most of those guys did significantly better in one or more of those stats.

Ryan Braun? How is a left fielder who hit 25 HR's and had an .363 OBP while getting elected to his third All Star Game possibly underrated? May as well put Soriano on the list.

Braun was a head scratcher...

GO BEARS!!!!!!!!



Pack 14 Bears 10
Cutler throws 2 picks, acts like a douchebag on the sideline.

If he makes it all the way to the sideline, that will be an improvement.

Good Point...

I hope you two are man enough to say you're thedouchebags should he actually propel his team to the W.

He is still the best QB the Bears have had in years regardless of the outcome.

Cutler's flaws are correctable and seem to be getting corrected under Martz. The article Rob links to does a nice job of showing Martz's thinking towards Cutler and it's good to see he sees what even we Cutler supporters see. Cutler is a work in progress. So of course, I'm nervous about this game and again and am going to be worrying if we see the Good Jay or the Bad Jay. Last week he did throw what should have been a pick in the red zone. But he also tucked the ball in and ran with it a few times when earlier in the season he would have tried to force something, and he even threw the ball away a couple times. I was almost as glad to see those lobs into the end zone as I was the touchdown to Olsen.

I am still not seeing an improvement in the decision making. All I am seeing is people getting excited when he has time to make throws and he only does 3 stupid things per game, as opposed to when he gets pressured and does 10 stupid things.

What quarterback doesn't do 3 stupid things a game?

You'll see three of them play tomorrow.

You clearly have never seen Sanchez or Roethsliberger play. I may give you Rogers though.

It's pretty simple to count tomorrow.

I have no interest in making silly comparisons off of one game.

You claim that Cutler now does 3 stupid things a game (which is pretty unquantifiable due to the premise's arbitrary nature, but that is beside the point). I claim that there are very, very few quarterbacks (if any) who do less than 3 stupid things a game.

Tomorrow won't change my mind.

Typical. You're certain that I'm wrong, but then say there's no way to prove that I am right, which of course also means that there's no way to prove I was
wrong, so you were, per usual, just talking out of your ass.

just talking out of your ass

Actually, that would be you. You can't "prove" anything that you have said. You are completely making things up (10 stupid things, 3 stupid things, etc.). You are the one who continually points to made up stats about Cutler and isolated examples to attempt to make your point.

I'm not making up stats. I'm not pointing to isolated plays to make a point.

And for a guy who over and over again preaches about sample sizes, you sure like to pick isolated examples to "prove" that Jay Cutler sucks.

I guess in your world, if Jay Cutler outplays Aaron Rogers tomorrow, Jay Cutler must be a better a quarterback.

Ditka makes a surprise pre-game locker room speech. Bears 87, Packers 2. Packers' only points come when Jay Cutler throws the ball out of the back of the end zone to avoid a sack, then moons the Packers' sideline.

to Blue Jays

thought they already had 2 up and coming catchers

-edit- didn't mean that as a reply

Didn't read the article, but I would guess this is more of a "Vlad and Manny are not coming here" move than a catcher move.

Supposedly for Vernon Wells and the 4 yr/$86 million left on his contract.

I thought you were making a joke. Wow.

So if we can find a way to get Soriano to hit 31 hr's this season, can we dump him on the Angels next winter?

I was thinking today before their GM sobers up.

I guess the Angels just had to spend money...weird.

Wells never K'd much and obviously still has some power, so I think he's a better bet to not completely flame out, like say, Soriano, but damn risky.

report on says an unspecified amount of cash is coming the Angels way

Napoli/Rivera for Wells is the deal

-edit- Keith Law says no cash and the press releases apparently make no mention of cash. Wow.

Alex Anthopoulos just won Executive of the Year...

I think he just got in the Hall of Fame.

There is hope for Soriano to be dumped on someone. Too bad there is now one less suitor now.

Don't know if this is 3/44, but N Punto to Cards 1/750k.

LaRussa is collecting slap-hitting IF's like Peppers collect holding lineman.

Go FUCKING Bears!!!!!!!

sign Manny and Damon today...

Vlad Guerrero reportedly close to signing with Baltimore, reportedly for dirt cheap.

He hit .300 with 29 hr and 115 rbi last year. I can completely understand the fear of giving big bucks to a soon to be 36 year old, and the accompanying recent age bias among MLB GM's, but how he sat around all offseason waiting while far crappier players not only signed but got significantly more money is nuts.

He's a Hall of Famer who is still producing at a nice pace, with plenty of room to decline and still be of value, unlike shitheads like Manny Ramirez. (I know some idiot is going to start arguing that Manny at $2 million is a bargain. May I point out that once Manny got busted for PED's, his power numbers completely disappeared. If you watched Manny with the Dodgers and White Sox last year you saw a player with a very slow bat and absolutely no pop, coupled with the long running asshole he's always been. And I think it's not a coincidence that those stud young stars with the Dodgers when Manny arrived are suddenly under performing assholes. Shit rubs off. Why Tampa would expose their kids to that is beyond me.)

he needs about 3 more full seasons so he can get to 3000 and 500 to make the Hall probably.

DH's didn't really start signing until the last week, guess it just came down the price and if you wanted a RH or LH bat.

Gotta wonder why Texas didn't want him back though...

Vlad might have a hard time getting to 3000 hits. He needs 573, so he'll have to stay healthy and productive for at least 3 more years. But he had a string of 10 straight years that stack up extremely well against anyone in baseball (108 rbi or more every season during that run but the 2003 strike year).

He's going to get to 1500 rbi's for sure, a good chance at 1600 or more. Vlad's career numbers right now are .320/.383/.563.

But I think if he bounces from team to team as a DH his final 4-5 years, the 'journeyman' tag probably hurts his HoF chances a bit.

Manny can still hit. Between the Dodgers and White Sox last year he hit .298/.409/.460. The problem was, he was only healthy enough for 265 ABs all year.

His HR were down last year. He hit a home run every 29.44 AB in 2010. Over the past few years, he's hit a home run every:

2009: 18.53 AB
2008: 14.92 AB
2007: 24.15 AB
2006: 12.83 AB
2005: 12.31 AB

I don't know if his power went in the toilet last year and it will come back this year, or if last year was a sign of things to come. However, even based on last year, he can still be a productive hitter and could turn out to be a bargain if he stays healthy and simply repeats what he did in 2010.

Manny is a quitter. He quit on the Red Sox and quit on the Dodgers. He's a cancer. A proven quitter who ruins teams. And if you watched him at all last season, he's a singles hitter now. His Risk/Reward is not high enough to take a gamble on.

He's 39 in May, do you really think his power is suddenly going to come back? Only if he gets Bonds' trainer out of prison.

24 games with the White Sox last year, 1 hr and 2 rbi.

Plus he double-parks and litters.

And kicks puppies and cheats on his taxes!

Now I'm torn. I like puppies, but I hate taxes.

24 games with the White Sox last year, 1 hr and 2 rbi.

You should read up on this thing called sample sizes.

Dodgers, 66 games, 8 hr.

He's 39.

And I understand sample sizes, nimwit.

Then maybe you shouldn't trot out 24 games as being a very relevant sample size.

Oh, and he also had 40 RBI in that small sample size with the Dodgers. Not sure why you include the low RBI total with the Sox, but ignore the pretty good RBI total with the Dodgers. I guess that didn't make your point as well.

And nimwit? Really?

WGN Radio has audio up for some of the Cubs Convention.

Here's the link for Oneri Fleita & Tim Wilkin being interviewed by Kap & Memolo:

Wilkin "Their demeanor, how they carry themselves on the field. That's one of the first things we look at."...ugh

McFail's pre-deal denial wrt Vlad

Can't happen. Vlad never played with the Cubs or in the Cubs farm system.

Blue Jays on the books for $ 17 million payroll in 2012

He's also in the head scratcher from the Cubs point of view camp.

if someone would quit DDOS'ing their site i might be able to read it.

...wonder who they pissed off now.

it's probably pete rose's thug friends pissed they're in year 8 of will carroll's "no, i'm right!" article, non-retraction and non-appology after insisting pete was returning to baseball and he'd seen the contracts and unicorns and etc. while burning up the airwaves being a guest on any show that would take him during his self-pimp-fest.

2003 Strike year?

Somebody take away the Marlins WS rings?

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  • He was a big key to the crazy start, a big key to the end of last year, a big key in not beating the Mets (although lots of help from a tired inexperienced team there), so although the team as a whole can get through a series with a good Jake it will be tough with a bad Jake. I don't think it's realistic to have the insanely great Jake again, but maybe it is. Seeing today's box score it appears maybe it is - but I haven't been able to tune in yet.

    Old and Blue 5 min 52 sec ago view
  • IMO Jake is really the key to winning the World Series, but maybe I'm putting too much emphasis on one player.

    Rob Richardson 36 min 58 sec ago view
  • The reports that they offered EITHER Jimenez or Torres for Chapman are a little disconcerting. I hope 1) Those reports are wrong, and 2) if they are not wrong, that they will hold on to him, as the team could use the outfield depth. I have only seen him in the futures game, but he looks like a keeper.

    Old and Blue 59 min 20 sec ago view
  • Very nice. I saw him in Lansing in May. I'm still stunned that he hit a 400-foot foul ball onto Larch Street ... which is going the other way for a right-handed batter. It was perhaps the most amazing swing I've ever seen a minor league player take. I should also mention that it was about 40 degrees out at the time. Not that it's evidence of anything per se, but I feel his plate approach is way more advanced than Soler was at this stage in his development and that the comparisons aren't really fair to Jimenez. 50/50 chance I'll go to Midland tonight for the low-A debut of Oscar de la Cruz.

    John Beasley 2 hours 48 min ago view
  • Eloy Jimenez grand slam tonight. Hoping Soler power returns and gets hot but future looks bright in the outfield regardless.

    Finished the night 4-5, with two doubles - 32(!) on the season - along with the grand slam. Sick

    Eric S 4 hours 9 min ago view
  • Meanwhile, out West:

    SF is 2-11 since the break, lead over LA is down to one game, and they are running out Cain and Peavy this weekend against the Nats. Challenging times by the Bay.

    billybucks 4 hours 57 min ago view
  • Thanks for the updates Phil. Too bad about Frazier.

    Hagsag 8 hours 52 min ago view
  • The Cubs have released RHRP Scott Frazier (2013 7th round dfraft pick - Pepperdine).

    A Cubs pitching coach told me in Spring Training 2014 that he thought Frazier had the best pure stuff in the organization. Absolutely electric fastball & breaking ball combo. Other pitchers would gather behind the screen just to watch him throw "live" BP. That's how amazing he was. 

    Arizona Phil 14 hours 49 sec ago view
  • Got a chance to see Diamondbacks RHSP Zack Greinke (15-day DL - strained oblique) throw a rehab start at Sloan Park Friday night. Four of the first seven AZL Cubs hitters singled and the Cubs did score an unearned run in the bottom of the 1st inning, but then Greinke got serious and struck out five in a row.

    ZACK GREINKE: 3.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R (0 ER), 0 BB, 5 K, 4/0 GO/AO, 49 pitches (34 strikes)

    Arizona Phil 14 hours 15 min ago view
  • Have fun - It may be good for Arrieta to be facing a team that doesn't know him as well as the NL teams. A nice shutout would do wonders for his confidence. He is confident in public but baseball is hard and he could use a boost, I'm sure.

    Old and Blue 19 hours 6 min ago view
  • Me too. I'll be at the game tomorrow and would love to see Good Arrieta.

    Brick 19 hours 31 min ago view
  • Last few games have been the April version of the Cubs that disappeared completely the past two months.
    Hope they can sustain it.

    blockhead25 19 hours 58 min ago view
  • Don't sell yourself short, Judge.

    Jackstraw 20 hours 25 min ago view
  • I love this team.

    Looks like Mother Nature is trying to call this fight.

    Rob Richardson 21 hours 53 min ago view
  • Hey! I remember this team!

    billybucks 22 hours 1 min ago view
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    Eric S 23 hours 28 min ago view