Someone Left the Cash Out in the Rain

Carlos Pena crushed a three-run HR, Starlin Castro tripled, singled, scored a run, and knocked-in another, and Geovany Soto drove-in two runs with a wind-blown double, as the Cubs took a 7-4 lead after the top of the 4th inning in Cactus League action at damp and windy Tempe Diablo Stadium, in a game that was called due to rain after 3-1/2 innings before it was an official game.  



Hoping to nail-down the 5th starter's job, Andrew Cashner got the start for the Cubs and pitched all three innings prior to the game being called. He allowed four runs (earned) on seven hits and two walks, with two strikeouts and a GIDP. He threw 67 pitches (only 38 strikes). needing 22 pitches to get through the 1st inning when the Angels scored twice, 20 pitches in a scoreless 2nd inning, and 25 pitches in another two-run Angel uprising in the 3rd. The damage could have been even worse (and the pitch count even higher), but the Angels ran themselves out of both the 1st and 2nd innings (runner thrown out trying to advance from 1st to 3rd on a two-out single in the 1st, and a strike-out & CS DP to end the 2nd).The Angels original lineup featured most of their starters (Aybar, Kendrick, Hunter, Wells, et al), but most of them left after only one AB, so Cashner actually struggled in the 2nd and 3rd innings against a minor leaguer lineup. 


Cashner had all kinds of problems throwing strikes today, and while the gusty winds and light drizzle that fell for much of the game was probably a contributing factor, it really is not all that unusual for Cash to throw a high number of pitches-per-inning. The thing about Cashner is that he throws harder when he knows he is going to pitch just one inning, and can rely more on his high-velocity four-seamer to rack up strikeouts instead of throwing a two-seamer/slider/change-up combo that might or might not result in him throwing fewer pitches, but certainly will make him more hittable. Personally, I'll take the one-inning "let-it-all-hang-out" Cashner with the 98-100 MPH unhittable gas who goes aggressively after hitters, rather than the starter Cashner who tries to mix-up his pitches and induce ground balls like a hundred other run-of-the-mill MLB pitchers.   


Given Cashner's performance today, I would say the jury is still out regarding the Cubs 5th starter. I guess it could be Cashner (although his high pitch counts will burn out a bullpen if it's not rested), or Carlos Silva or Braden Looper (despite neither pitcher looking like someone you would want on the hill starting a game every 5th day), or maybe Casey Coleman (who threw in a game at Minor League Camp last Saturday) will get the job by default.  


The Cubs got on the scoreboard in the top of the 1st inning against Angels reliever Francisco Rodriguez (who made the start today, probably because of the wet conditions), as Kosuke Fukudome walked and Starlin Castro lined a single to left to start the game. After Marlon Byrd flied out to CF, Carlos Pena whacked a towering three-run HR high & far over the RF fence, with the ball last seen hopping merrily in the direction of eastbound I-10.


The Cubs scored twice more in the 2nd against RHP Kevin Jepsen when Darwin Barney reached on an E-4, and after Fukudome forced Barney at 2nd, Castro roped a triple into the left-center alley to score Fukudome, before Byrd singled to score Castro.


The Cubs finished their scoring in the 4th against RHP Rich Thompson. Fukudome blooped a single to short CF to lead-off the inning, and Pena walked with two outs, before Geovany Soto hit a sky-high wind-aided fly ball over the centefielder's head for a two-run double (although Soto was thrown-out inexplicably trying to stretch it into a triple).

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"Cruz, coming off May 2010 shoulder surgery, has been impressive and seems the leading candidate not only for a job but a key role, assuming he can stay healthy and handle pitching on back-to-back and, at times, three consecutive, days, which the Rays think he can."

from the yahoo sports, TB, team, report.

ow.

that's, juan, cruz, btw.

Well, in the "Trades Happen" department, we also have this:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ycn-809...

FWIW, the Yahoo Contributor Network is just a fancy name for user posts/blogs. But they get surfaced pretty well into the Yahoo RSS feeds. Sometimes, that's very regrettable, but in this case, it's a pretty simple, straightforward little report on Jake Fox.

The 28-year-old Fox is looking to make the team as a utility player thanks to his versatility. Fox can play first base, third base, outfield, and can also catch.

that's a pretty loose definition of play

"Someone Left the Cash Out in the Rain"

I understand his agent, MacArthur Parker, was not happy about him staying out in the rain.

"Someone Left the Cash Out in the Rain"

'I understand his agent, MacArthur Parker, was not happy about him staying out in the rain.'

Did he not think he could take it?

He was hoping Cash could get on the team and make it.

~groan~

Sam Fuld was three for three the other day with a double and a steal, and there is some recent commentary that he may make the Rays.

I was thinking that if he was put on waivers, the Cubs could use a reserve outfielder. Anything but Reed Johnson.

Anything, that is, except for Fernando Perez, who can go to Iowa and work on beating out those soft grounders to short. If he was only two steps faster, he wouldn't have to hardly hit the ball at all.

Apart from Fuld, the Cubs traded another outfielder to the Rays who could have beaten out R. Johnson.

Luckily there will be 30-40 guys better than him passing through waivers in about a week.

Finding a 5th outfielder will be the least of the Cubs issues this year.

30-40 outfielders passing through waivers? I'll take the under.

We've got 4 guys who can play the Outfield on NRI's right now. Almost every 26 and older Minor League bloke is about to go through waivers.

That's not how waivers works.

Most waiver moves aren't really even made public. But every guy who is out of options, or is being removed from the 40 man roster WILL have to pass through waivers on their way to the Minor leagues before opening day.

That IS how it works.

Yes, but not ever NRI is going through waivers...I hope we don't lose McNutt.

All of the NRI guys capable of playing outfield will go through waivers.

Scott Moore
Matt Camp
Reed Johnson
Bobby Scales
and even Augie Ojeda

My point was that there is about to be 100-160 guys sliding through waivers over the next week. If the Cubs aren't happy with the 5th OF spot. They can pick a replacement cheaper and easier now than at any other point of the season.

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:17am.
All of the NRI guys capable of playing outfield will go through waivers.

Scott Moore
Matt Camp
Reed Johnson
Bobby Scales
and even Augie Ojeda

My point was that there is about to be 100-160 guys sliding through waivers over the next week. If the Cubs aren't happy with the 5th OF spot. They can pick a replacement cheaper and easier now than at any other point of the season.

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DR AARON B: NRI guys are signed to minor league contracts, so they are not placed on waivers when they are cut.

What the Cubs can do is claim an OF off Outright Waivers who was on another club's 40-man roster but is out of options, or sign a player who had been on a 40-man roster with a non-guaranteed contract going into Spring Training who was released prior to Opening Day as a cost savings (as happened to Reed Johnson in 2008), or sign an NRI guy who was cut but who has an opt-out clause in his minor league contract that allows him to be a free-agent if he isn't added to his club's 25-man roster (and 40-man roster) by MLB Opening Day.

So if a guy is out of options, but on a ML contract. He isn't subject to waivers?

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:58am.
So if a guy is out of options, but on a ML contract. He isn't subject to waivers?

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DR AARON B: Only players on an MLB 40-man roster are subject to waivers. Players signed to minor league contracts (which would include all NRIs) are not.

"Finding a 5th outfielder will be the least of the Cubs issues this year."

If you put it that way, then I suppose you win the poorly framed argument.

But two of the Cubs' outfielders are untradeable mediocrities, and then you have Reed Johnson, who has been released by three teams now. That leaves Colvin and Byrd.

The Cubs have a glaring need for a leadoff hitter, which can only be filled at this point using Reed Johnson's roster spot.

Least of their issues . . .

The Cubs have a glaring need for a leadoff hitter, which can only be filled at this point using Reed Johnson's roster spot.

huh?

AKA, someone who plays center field and runs fast. To be a leadoff hitter you have to do both of those things.

You have to get around the bases well, better than, say, Fukudome. It makes no difference what position you play, although usually the speed guys play up the middle (not catcher). You have to get on base, which Fukudome does--but not necessarily better than Fuld, who runs and defends better.

I just think it's strange that we keep Fuld until he's 29, and when we finally have a need for him (however temporary), we give him away for nothing, for essayist Fernando Perez. Also, the Cubs should have pulled Guyer back when they agreed to give up Archer. Tampa may have cared about Archer and Chirinos but they weren't holding out for Guyer. (They may not have been holding out for Lee, either--who knows?)

It just irks me to see a re-re-retread like Reed Johnson make this team. I care more about the roster--the composition of the team, and how many young players are on it--than I do about how many games the Cubs win in 2011.

Sam Fuld, couldn't be trusted to play outfield in Wrigley field, and if he's a better hitter than Perez it's marginal and Perez makes up for it with his base stealing. You're making too big a deal about a couple of Spring Training games, in particular when you're looking at a guy who hasn't batted from the left side of the plate in a year.

sam fuld's baseball-reference sponsor rocks...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/f...

...and damn...he has one hell of a wikipedia page...110 references cited...daaaamn some people put work in on that one

That Wiki page is insane. I just hope he didn't do it himself.

That wiki page also says there were 47,xxx people at Wrigley the day he made his sweet catch. That's a lot of SRO!

110 references and not one of them is to TCR?!?!? That page is losing credibility quickly. (Just kidding, I didn;t actually look through them.)

Just out of curiosity, how do we know that fuld was added to the deal in return for Perez. Not having been privy to the negotiations, how could we possibly know that they would have allowed us to keep Guyer after we added Archer.

As you, yourself said, "who knows"?. And the only answer we have for certain is "not us".

The Cubs have so much that they can legitimately be criticized for, why make up stuff out of the air?

One way to ask a question is to propose an answer that sounds reasonable, and then ask, Is this what really happened?

Aren't you curious about things that are hard to know?

For example, we know that the Rays coveted Chirinos and that they wanted either Archer or McNutt in the deal.

On the day before the Cubs gave in on Archer, what was the offer they had on the table?

I'm guessing: Carpenter (?), Chirinos, Lee and Guyer.

Still guessing: when they acceded to the Rays' demand for Archer, the Cubs could have pulled Guyer or substituted someone lesser. Instead they said, Give us Perez. The Rays countered, Okay, but give us Fuld.

And thus 34-year-old Reed Johnson is on the 25-man roster.

and then you have Reed Johnson, who has been released by three teams now.

if by 3 you mean 1, sure.

Careless use of released. Blue Jays released him, Cubs and Dodgers let his one-year contract expire.

fwiw, Cubs seemed to want him back but not for much as they were too worried about his back.

Bourbon Phil's thoughts on ex Cubs-
-Milton Bradley to bat third
-Mark Prior to AAA

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/03/...

Silva: 26 runs in 12 innings? Daaaaaaaaaaaa...

...aaaang.

I would like to see what would happen if Silva pitched to Koyie Hill...

well, no

That would mean that one of them was on a DIFFERENT TEAM... I am on board for wanting to see thst!

I would like to see what would happen if Silva pitched to Koyie Hill.

Ever seen "Inception"? It would be kind of like that...

I was thinking more like when The Juggernaught runs into The Blob - but somehow reversed.

i didn't realize this was an issue.

There already have 4 OF's and trying to figure out where Colvin will get at-bats (and eventually Fukudome once he goes through his slump). Joey Gathright sure didn't get too many PA's, I wouldn't expect much from Perez or Johnson.

Johnson can still hit lefties and probably a bit of a defensive upgrade to Soriano late in games.

Perez is fast and I would assume be an asset defensively with that speed.

Either one should work for the very limited role. With Colvin and/or Fukudome likely sitting on any given day, that's a decent bench bat that should be available. Without doing a thorough study, I would guess that most teams don't have more than one .800/high .700 OPS ready to come in a game for an at-bat.

Bobby Scales could be the 5th outfielder if the Cubs are okay with Colvin or Fukudome manning a few innnings at center field once in awhile. At least he has a little pop in his bat.

A couple of things. If the Cubs thought Perez was good defensively, that may have been another scouting lapse. He has two errors, neither of which I saw, but one was reported as a dropped fly ball. I did see him in a Sunday game against the Sox when he ran to the wall and then took his eye off the ball (Brenly's words) and missed it, apparently because he was afraid of the wall.

You don't address the question of which of these five outfielders is any sort of leadoff hitter. We probably have a pretty deep disagreement about what constitutes a leadoff hitter. (I request that you resist the urge to inform me that there is no such thing.) At any rate, Fuld was a leadoff hitter according to my definition. So was Guyer, although Guyer could also hit in the middle of the order. Any real leadoff hitter on the roster could take starts away from Soriano, if not Byrd. I think the Cubs are disappointed in Perez, but that's their own fault. It was certainly a bad trade in regard to Guyer, Fuld and Perez.

He has two errors, neither of which I saw, but one was reported as a dropped fly ball.

I bet Mickey Mantle once dropped a flyball in a spring training game.

I did see him in a Sunday game against the Sox when he ran to the wall and then took his eye off the ball (Brenly's words) and missed it, apparently because he was afraid of the wall.

Fuld liked to crash in walls, so did Aaron Rowand. They got hurt a lot. Was it a Ho-ho kam game? If not, probably not that familiar with the White Sox park and I don't know how much outfield they take in spring training on away games.

He's also coming off shoulder surgery (sort of), better chance making the team if he's not on the disabled list.

You don't address the question of which of these five outfielders is any sort of leadoff hitter.

Well, I'm sure the 5th outfielder isn't going to be one, not on any type of regular basis anyway.

Fukudome is the best bet at the moment. At least he can get on-base, that's 3/4 of the battle.

At any rate, Fuld was a leadoff hitter according to my definition.

Can't leadoff from the bench..

So was Guyer, although Guyer could also hit in the middle of the order.

can't leadoff from Triple A,

Brett Jackson is the best leadoff option in the Cubs system.

I don't know what the Cubs plan for 5th outfielder is at this point, Perez and Reed haven't hit much at this point and Matt Camp cooled off. Generally you want a guy that can play all 3 positions, but if they're basing it all off spring training offensive performance, Bobby Scales would be the choice. He's a terrible outfielder and all, but they should be covered with Fukudome, Colvin for center field if they want to pinch hit or rest Byrd.

And there will be a waiver guys available in the next week to look at if they feel a need.

5th starter spot and if the offense can be in the top half of runs scored are the actual issues.

I bet Mickey Mantle once dropped a flyball in a spring training game.

Drunk and out of town, doesn't count.

"At least he can get on-base, that's 3/4 of the battle."

Depends if the battle is mainly to increase your OBP. If it's to get around the bases, a walk gets you one quarter of the way.

To me, the job of a leadoff hitter--who frequently (in theory at least) comes up with the bases empty--is to score a run with as few walks and hits as necessary behind you. If you get an XBH, you've made it easier. Same with a walk or a bunt single and a steal. Fukudome can get to first, but at that point he needs more help than is ideal.

Dempster, Grab-Ass, Marshall, Shark, Maine schedule to pitch today.

Az Phil-

Has anything interesting happened at minor league camp yet? I'm just jonesing for some updates on the minor league teams and I was just wondering how the minor leaguers are looking or maybe if guys are being moved down and such. I feel like that would be a really interesting read. Thanks for all you do.

Okay, sorry, to pimp the fantasy baseball league here, but we have one last opening and I want to get things wrapped up quickly... e-mail me if you want more info. $30 entry, draft is this sunday at 5pm eastern.

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I'll reply to you from a different e-mail address.

Sullivan twitter:

Quade sez Silva not out of rotation picture yet. Starts Weds vs A's.

Christ on sale... what does he have to do to not make the team?

Die, retire, or do something that could void that shit contract he has?

not that I care for Silva, but Cashner sure isn't inspiring at the moment.

Buy a house with Luis Castillo and Oliver Perez?

I'm hoping Soriano takes him under his wing and lets him stay at his home.

Quade Hendry Ricketts sez Silva not out of rotation picture yet.

apparently no roster decisions being made until tomorrow

Barney is in the mix for 2b starting job

Silva pitches tomorrow vs A's, Z will pitch in minor league camp where the air will certainly be better for him.

Firefox 4 is fast.

Random browser question: If you have a crappy computer, does the browser make a difference for the user? I just assume everything runs slowly on the outdated machine I'm on at work.

I don't know how much you'll be able to tell if you're computer is as bad as you're making it sound.

But in theory, Firefox 4, much like Chrome is designed to load pages more efficiently and you should see some difference.

I don't know what the system requirements are to notice that difference.

action today...

Colvin singled, 2nd on a WP, thrown out at home after a Byrd single to LF.

Sounds like a leadoff hitter.

more on today's roster meeting

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/03/...

Soto BB, outs by Baker and DeWitt, single to right by Barney and Dempster ends the inning.

Advantage Barney...

Those who were watching today, saw Jake Fox hit his 8th HR.

The Orioles batted him NINTH.

MARK PRIOR worked the fifth inning for the Yankees. Struck out Markakis and Wieters, then got DERREK LEE to ground out on an 0-2 pitch... 3 up/3 down

10 K's in 6.2 IP, Yanks may change their minds about sending Prior to AAA

Prior? That's badass. I hope he stays healthy.

wow, steve lyons really needed to criticize Blake DeWitt.

Chopper to third base, terrible throw by Baker to 2b takes him off the bag and Lyons goes nuts about his defense and how he has to figure out how to get a throw off there to turn the double play. Mind you Eugenio Velez is the one running down first base.

Steve Lyons is allowed back in the booth now that Piniella has retired?

Dewitt, Barney turn a nice 4-6-3 on Ethier

Billingsley up to 12 in a row

sweet, I jinxed it

single by Byrd, BB's to Pena and Soto and Baker lines one to right center that Xavier Paul robs him on.

oh wow...this game is on mlb network...i should have come home sooner.

Thanks for the heads up. I should have not worked late, gone for a run and weeded... Friday's game is on at 3 central on WGN, I do believe.

Ninja about to blow the game

with 1 out, Double, BB, infield single

barney saves it for now by cutting off a single headed to left and keeping it in the infield

Castillo looks like he's never framed a pitch in his life.

K's Gabe Kapler after going 3-0 on him for the 2nd out.

still a 94% chance he blows it

yep, bloop single that Fernando Perez can't make the play on in left field

I thought he got squeezed on the 9th inning ball four pitch and the 2nd pitch to Kapler, with no help from Castillo, but he still looks like the same old Wide Outside to me.

I don't know much behind the science of framing pitches, in theory umps are suppose to have made up their mind before it hits the mitt. I think BP or one of those sites tried to do something on it recently, can't remember the conclusion.

I do recall in my youth an ump telling me that everytime he saw me move the mitt when I was catching, he knew it was a ball, so I guess that's where I stand on its importance.

I think if the glove is moving away from the strikezone as the ball is caught, you're pretty much never going to get the call. You would think that Castillo had as much experience catching him as anyone, but it sure didn't look it.

Wisgrad linked a article about using pitch f/x to chart which catchers get their pitchers more free strikes the other day.

You are like a prophet.

Alright, let me try this just to make sure I'm ready for the regular season...

Well no doubt Ninja sucks, but it's not like the offense helped him out much.

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