D-Cubs & Chiefs Deal with Tourists and Nuts at Fitch Park

Richard Jones blasted a solo HR onto 8th Street and drove in another run with a single and LHP Eric Jokisch (2010 11th round pick out of Nortwestern) threw three shutout innings with five strikeouts, leading the Peoria Chiefs to a 6-3 victory over the Asheville Tourists (Colorado Rockies Class “A” affiliate) on Field #2, while next-door on Field #3 the Daytona Cubs were cracking the Modesto Nuts (Rockies Advanced “A” affiliate) by a score of 11-4, as Matt Cerda went 3-3 with two runs scored and an RBI, Junior Lake had three hits (a double and two singles), scored one run, and drove in another, and Evan Crawford doubled, singled, stole a base (home), scored twice, and knocked in two runs, in Cactus League Minor League Spring Training action at Fitch Park in Mesa, AZ, this afternoon.


Cubs #5 starter Andrew Cashner made his final Arizona start this morning on Field #1, throwing three innings (and getting hammered) in an intrasquad game between the Iowa Cubs and the Tennessee Smokies.


Although they are assigned to the Iowa squad, RHP Blake Parker and Hung-Wen Chen pitched in the Daytona game this afternoon rather than the intrasquad game this morning, because they were bumped by Cashner.


In Minor League Camp roster news, a number of players were released or demoted today:



RELEASED: OF (ex-RHP) Chris Huseby, RHP Mike Perconte, and RHP Aaron Shafer (2008 2nd round draft pick).


IOWA TO TENNESSEE: OF Jim Adduci, RHP Chris Carpenter, C-1B Blake Lalli, LHP Luke Sommer, and OF-1B Matt Spencer.


TENNESSEE TO DAYTONA: C Michael Brenly, OF-1B Michael Burgess, OF Jae-Hoon Ha, RHP Ty’Relle Harris, OF-IF-C David Macias, and RHP Rob Whitenack.


DAYTONA TO PEORIA: RHP Eduardo Figueroa, OF D. J. Fitzgerald, C Micah Gibbs, LHP Eric Jokisch, OF Alvaro Ramirez, and OF Jose Valdez.


PEORIA TO BOISE/MESA (EXTENDED SPRING TRAINING): 2B Pin-Chieh Chen, RHP Dustin Fitzgerald, C Max Kwan, RHP Luis Liria, OF Jesus Morelli, and RHP Alvaro Sosa.


After a work-out on Field #4, several players from the Boise/Mesa (Extended Spring Training) squad (2B Pin-Chieh Chen, 3B Dustin Geiger, SS Dustin Harrington OF Blair Springfield, and OF Oliver Zapata) saw some late game action with Daytona in the game on Field #3. (Players from the Boise/Mesa Extended Spring Training group are often used as late inning replacements in Minor League Spring Training games).


Here are today’s abridged box scores (Cubs players only), with some of the recently-demoted players in the starting lineups of their new squads:


FIELD #2 (CLASS “A” – Peoria Chiefs vs Asheville Tourists)


PEORIA LINEUP:
1. Rubi Silva, CF: 1-4 (F-7, K, 1-6-3 DP, 1B, PO)
2. Pierre LePage, 2B: 1-4 (1B, 6-3, 5-3, F-9)
3. Arismendy Alcantara, SS: 1-4 (K, 6-3, E-3, 3B, SB, R)
4. Richard Jones, 1B: 2-4 (4-3, HR, K, 1B, 2 R, 2 RBI)
5. Micah Gibbs, C: 0-3 (L-9, F-7, BB, 3-U)
6. Anthony Giansanti, 3B: 0-3 (K, 3-1, 1-3, BB, R)
7. Alvaro Ramirez, RF: 2-4 (1B, 1B, 3-U, L-8, R)
8. Elliot Soto, DH #1: 1-3 (F-8, 1B, L-7, BB, R)
9a. Jose Valdez, LF: 1-3 (K, 1B, F-7, RBI)
9b. Kyung-Min Na, LF: 1-1 (1B, 2 RBI)
10. Wes Darvill, DH #2: 1-3 (1-3, 1B, P-6)


PEORIA PITCHERS:
1. Eric Jokisch: 3.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K, 47 pitches (34 strikes), 3/1 GO/FO
2. Robinson Lopez: 3.0 IP, 2 H, 3 R (3 ER), 2 BB, 2 K, 2 WP, 46 pitches (26 strikes), 4/3 GO/FO
3. Charles Thomas: 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 1 K, 22 pitches (12 strikes), 1/0 GO/FO
4. Casey Harman: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K, 17 pitches (12 strikes)
5. Yohan Gonzalez: 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K, 13 pitches (11 strikes), 2/1 GO/FO


PEORIA ERRORS: NONE


PEORIA CATCHERS DEFENSE:
Micah Gibbs: 1-2 CS


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FIELD #3 (ADVANCED CLASS "A” – Daytona Cubs vs Modesto Nuts)


DAYTONA LINEUP:
1. Jae-Hoon Ha, CF-DH: 1-5 (3-U, F-9, 1B, L-5, F-8, R, 2 RBI)
2a. Logan Watkins, 2B: 1-3 (1B, BB, FC, F-9, R, SB)
2b. Pin-Chieh Chen, 2B: 1-1 (3B)
3a. Junior Lake, SS: 3-4 (5-4 FC, 2B, 1B, 1B, R, RBI, CS)
3b. Dustin Harrington, SS: 0-1 (K)
4a. Justin Bour, 1B: 1-3 (F-8, 2B, F-8, BB, RBI)
4b. Dustin Geiger, 3B: 0-1 (6-3)
5a. Michael Burgess, LF: 0-4 (K, K, K, K)
5b. Blair Springfield, LF: 0-0 (BB)
6a. Nelson Perez, RF: 2-4 (4-3, 1B, 1B, 4-3, 2 R)
6b. Oliver Zapata, RF: 0-1 (K)
7a. Michael Brenly, C: 1-2 (L-5, 1B, BB, 2 R)
7b. David Macias, C: 0-2 (L-4, F-8)
8a. Matt Cerda, 3B: 3-3 (1B, 1B, 1B, 2 R, 2 RBI)
8b. Jake Opitz, 3B-1B: 0-1 (BB, 6-4 FC)
9. Evan Crawford, DH-CF: 2-4 (2B, 1B, F-9, F-9, 2 R, RBI, SB)


DAYTONA PITCHERS:
1. Rob Whitenack: 4.1 IP, 4 H, 1 R (1 ER), 0 BB, 4 K, 50 pitches (34 strikes), 7/2 GO/FO
2. Blake Parker: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K, 15 pitches (11 strikes), 5/1 GO/FO
3. Hung-Wen Chen: 0.2 IP, 3 H, 2 R (2 ER), 0 BB, 1 K, 22 pitches (14 strikes), 1/0 GO/FO
4. Ty’Relle Harris: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R (1 ER), 0 BB, 1 K, 1 WP, 14 pitches (9 strikes), 1/1 GO/FO
5. Ryan Searle: 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 12 pitches (8 strikes), 2/0 GO/FO


DAYTONA ERRORS: 1:
SS Junior Lake E-6 – fielding error (bobble) allowed batter to reach base safely


DAYTONA CATCHERS DEFENSE:
1. Michael Brenly: 0-2 CS
2. David Macias: 1 PB


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ATTENDANCE: 31


WEATHER: Sunny with temperatures in the 90’s

Comments

A little surprised that Shafer was released. His stats weren't amazing by any stretch, but last year was his first as a reliever. I guess he couldn't crack the Smokies bullpen. Even if there were some character issues, releasing a 2nd round pick after just two full seasons is a rare occurence for the Cubs. Too bad.

Having lived in Murray, Ky for a while I hate to see a former Murray St. Thoroughbred get cut in Perconte. I have some friends who say he's a really good guy.

And, a whole lot of people that seem ready for Iowa are going to be in TN. They'll just have to force managements hand. I do think there are too many 4A guys in Iowa, but thats the trend nowadays.

Submitted by Childersb3 on Thu, 03/31/2011 - 7:15pm.
And, a whole lot of people that seem ready for Iowa are going to be in TN. They'll just have to force managements hand. I do think there are too many 4A guys in Iowa, but thats the trend nowadays.

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CHILDERS: After today's roster moves, here is the Iowa Cubs roster as of right now (the roster has to be at 24 by next Thursday):

* bats or throws left
# bats both

bold on 40-man roster

PITCHERS:
Justin Berg
Austin Bibens-Dirkx
* Ryan Buchter
Esmailin Caridad
Hung-Wen Chen
Robert Coello
Casey Coleman
Thomas Diamond
* John Gaub
Angel Guzman (DL - shoulder surgery rehab)
Jay Jackson
* Scott Maine
* J. R. Mathes
Jake Muyco
Blake Parker
Jeff Stevens
* Polin Trinidad
Todd Wellemeyer (DL - hip)

CATCHERS:
Welington Castillo
Max Ramirez
Chris Robinson

INFIELDERS:
* Matt Camp
* Bryan Lahair
* Scott Moore
Jonathan Mota
# Augie Ojeda (DL - back)
# Bobby Scales
Marquez Smith

OUTFIELDERS:
* Tony Campana
Lou Montanez
# Fernando Perez
* Brad Snyder (DL - oblique)
* Brandon Watson
Ty Wright

The weird thing I noticed about a week ago is that the Milb.com team website's rosters are spot on with who's targeted for each team (*save Buchter for Cales). Ususally they aren't updated until the rosters are announced. Milb.com gets better every year.

JR Mathes is living proof of how important LH pitching is for an organization. He could pitch for the I-Cubs until he's 35. Future Minor league pitching coordinator.

Robinson is the Player/Coach on the DL
Watson is released
Trinidad is released
Berg is released
Muyco is released
Buchter is sent down to AA

I am not saying Mathes is released because I've said that for three years and he always pitches more than 100 innings a year.

Blake Parker has pitched better than Muyco, and I think Diamond has more upside than Berg.

Phil, you the man.

I'm not sure those team rosters are correct. They only show where guys ended the year last year, with the addition of this years 40 man roster guys that were assigned to those teams. I was at Fitch today and talked to someone who should know and some of the posted names and where they are, or are going , is not correct. This is based on my conversation today (Fri) and from what should be a most reliable source.

Submitted by Childersb3 on Thu, 03/31/2011 - 11:12pm.
The weird thing I noticed about a week ago is that the Milb.com team website's rosters are spot on with who's targeted for each team (*save Buchter for Cales). Ususally they aren't updated until the rosters are announced. Milb.com gets better every year.

Submitted by junior on Fri, 04/01/2011 - 5:38pm.
I'm not sure those team rosters are correct. They only show where guys ended the year last year, with the addition of this years 40 man roster guys that were assigned to those teams. I was at Fitch today and talked to someone who should know and some of the posted names and where they are, or are going , is not correct. This is based on my conversation today (Fri) and from what should be a most reliable source.

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CHILDERS & JUNIOR: The rosters at milb.com are based upon info milb.com gets directly through eBis (baseball's in-house information system), and they do not change the rosters during Minor League Camp to reflect the current working group (squad) for each Cub minor league affiliate (Iowa, Tennessee, Daytona, Peoria, and Boise/Mesa).

The fact that some of the Cubs minor league rosters listed at milb.com are starting to match the current Cubs working group rosters is only because the Cubs have recently moved a lot of the minor league players and pitchers to the affiliate where the player ended the 2010 season.

Again, the rosters at milb.com are not changed when a player moves to a different working group (squad) during Minor League Camp.

When I list the rosters for a particular Cub minor league working group (squad), it is based upon what I actually observe on the field at Fitch Park. The assignments to a working group are somewhat informal and the Cubs minor league bosses move players to different working groups (usually downward, but occasionally a player is moved up) without a press release or eBis notification.

Sometimes a player is moved back & forth. For example, LHP Casey Harman started Minor League Camp with the Peoria squad, then he was moved down to Boise/Mesa, and now he is back with Peoria again, apparently because they need another LHRP at Peoria. But he could be back with Boise/Mesa tomorrow.

None of this is reflected or recorded at milb.com. You only read about it here.

The Cubs' new 2nd bullpen catcher (replacing Corey Miller) is going to be Danny Fatheree, who some of you may know was Kerry Wood's catcher in high school.

The Cubs (probably at the request of KW) signed Fatheree to a minor league player contract in 2008 but he spent the Summer as a coach-mentor at Fitch Park (just like Scott McLain did last year and John Urick will this year).

Besides being a really nice guy, Fatheree spent a lot of time working one-on-one with Robinson Chirinos after Chirinos was sent to Fitch Park during the 2008 season to learn to be a catcher. So he's really more than just a bullpen catcher.

Wasn't Miller the one in the pot transportation business?

Submitted by Paul Noce on Thu, 03/31/2011 - 8:11pm.
Wasn't Miller the one in the pot transportation business?

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PAUL N: That was the charge.

Complete list of MLB team payrolls:

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/baseba...

White Sox 5th, Cubs 6th.
Royals last.

Inflation...

Ryan Theriot's 11th-inning error was the key play in a two-run game-winning rally for the visiting Padres, who did not lead at any other point in the game. San Diego had earlier benefited when Ryan Ludwick knocked a ball out of second baseman Skip Schumaker's glove. Virtually every turning point in the game turned against the Cards, and it was too much to overcome.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=...

Live it up, Cards

I still think Theriot made two errors. He dropped the ball, leading to the runner scoring. In trying to get the advancing runner, he made a bad throw, leading to the batter advancing to second. I'm not sure why that isn't two errors.

Funny, but it still doesn't make up for having to watch Aaron Miles play for the Cubs. Batting, specifically.

What in the 'Groundout 4-3' do you mean by that?

You didn't see Theriot come up in the 10th with a man on base and line a ball to shallow right that was caught by the rover. That was pretty priceless as well.

I think part of Theriot's decreasing skill as a hitter is that he's probably a dumb fuck.

It's tough for a team, sometimes for fans, to let go of a guy after he has some early success.

I assume The Riot made a good living in college ball and in the minors by driving outside pitches to the opposite field. In the big leagues, the default MO on a guy is to pitch to the outside corner. This is a recipe for early success.

It was only a matter of time before opposing pitchers caught on. That's not to say Theriot is a terrible hitter; he's no Aaron Miles. He can hang... just not very well. For Theriot's level of hitting, he should play B+ defense or better to be considered a legit big leaguer. I would give him a C or C- on defense, however. At SS, I give him a D.

You only hear it 100 times a yer: major league hitting is about adjustments.

It's hard to say that Theriot doesn't have the physical talent to hit in the majors, but if the hits are no longer free to short right, he needs to direct the ball to where the hits are. I can't be that hard.

There's a pill for that.

I agree, two different runners advanced on two different actions, that's normally two errors.

After the game, he blamed the error on the Cubs.

Shafer caught me off-guard, but okay. Perconte really had himself a decent season in A+, but he's 25 and not a big loss from a system perspective. Still think Spencer could put up big numbers in Iowa, but he's gotta force his way up.

AzPhil - how has Liria looked this spring? I had been hoping to see him at Peoria. Is he still low 90's, plus change, decent breaking ball?

Carpenter in AA at least means that he's going to be starting, right? So there's that positive, though I'm not sure there's that much improvement he's going to make that he needed to go back to AA. Wonder who gets pushed out of the rotation - certainly not McNutt. That leaves Cabrera, Rusin, Raley, Dolis ... wondering if they finally shift Dolis to pen work.

I'm pretty sure, based on what I was told today, that Carpenter is going to Iowa as a late inning reliever.I am only bringing this up because of the reliable source that told me at Fitch.

Submitted by junior on Fri, 04/01/2011 - 3:42pm.
I'm pretty sure, based on what I was told today, that Carpenter is going to Iowa as a late inning reliever.I am only bringing this up because of the reliable source that told me at Fitch.

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JUNIOR: Adduci, Carpenter, Lalli, Spencer, and Sommer were moved down from the Iowa to the Tennessee working group on Thursday. As I mentioned in the previous comment, moves and re-assignments at Minor League Camp are not written in stone. Any one of these players could get released, moved down another level, or moved back up to Iowa at any time. But usually player movement is downward, although the last week of Minor League Camp is usually when you will see some movement in the opposite direction as other players go on the DL or get released and need to be replaced.

Submitted by toonsterwu on Fri, 04/01/2011 - 5:38am.
Shafer caught me off-guard, but okay. Perconte really had himself a decent season in A+, but he's 25 and not a big loss from a system perspective. Still think Spencer could put up big numbers in Iowa, but he's gotta force his way up.

AzPhil - how has Liria looked this spring? I had been hoping to see him at Peoria. Is he still low 90's, plus change, decent breaking ball?

Carpenter in AA at least means that he's going to be starting, right? So there's that positive, though I'm not sure there's that much improvement he's going to make that he needed to go back to AA. Wonder who gets pushed out of the rotation - certainly not McNutt. That leaves Cabrera, Rusin, Raley, Dolis ... wondering if they finally shift Dolis to pen work.

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TOONSTER: I don't think Liria being moved down from the Peoria squad to Boise/Mesa means much. He pitched well enough last year that as long as he is pitching OK at EXST, he will probably be one of the first to go up to Peoria.

As for Carpenter, he was used as a one-inning reliever in the AFL last fall, and Jake Muyco was the Cubs starter (each of the five MLB clubs assigned to a given AFL team designates one of their pitchers as a starter). Do you think the Cubs would have designated Jake Muyco as a starter in the AFL if they projected Carpenter as a starter? I don't think so. For example, Andrew Cashner was a starter for the Mesa Solar Sox in the AFL in 2009.

And Carpenter has been used exclusively as a one-inning reliever so far in Minor League Camp. I don't see anything to indicate that the Cubs plan on moving him back to the starting rotation at any time in the near future.

"Do you think the Cubs would have designated Jake Muyco as a starter in the AFL if they projected Carpenter as a starter?"

I think they project Carpenter as a starter but until he can throw an off-speed pitch for a strike--which he failed to do in the one inning I saw him this spring--he is of little use as a starter. You can't throw fastballs for five innings.

It's the same as with Cashner. While he was learning to throw/control offspeed stuff, he relieved.

I haven't seen McNutt, but Cashner and Carpenter are the two best young arms, bodies, easy deliveries, etc., that I've seen. You want those guys to be your starters.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil on Sat, 04/02/2011 - 1:00pm.
"Do you think the Cubs would have designated Jake Muyco as a starter in the AFL if they projected Carpenter as a starter?"

I think they project Carpenter as a starter but until he can throw an off-speed pitch for a strike--which he failed to do in the one inning I saw him this spring--he is of little use as a starter. You can't throw fastballs for five innings.

It's the same as with Cashner. While he was learning to throw/control offspeed stuff, he relieved.

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VA PHIL: Even though he was still a work in progress and had not yet learned to throw his change-up for strikes at the time, Cashner was never-the-less used exclusively as a starter in the AFL in 2009.

The only disagreement I have with the comment above is that some pitchers who go to the AFL might have come close to reaching their club's limit of innings pitched in a season. In that case, it might still be worth seeing them in action against top notch talent, but only in brief one inning appearances.

That being said, if Carpenter has only been pitching in one inning appearances this spring, then it seems likely that he will be a relief pitcher at least to start. I personally think that is where he will end up, but I wouldn't mind seeing him in the rotation instead of a couple of guys at Tennessee. But who knows, maybe the Cubs think that this will accelerate his progress and get him to the majors faster?

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    John Beasley 1 hour 43 min ago view
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