Strategy for Mets Series

It's going to be a pretty laid back way week for the Cubs as they ready themselves for the playoffs. The only kink in that plan is they're playing two of the teams fighting for a playoff spot. Lou has already indicated that you wont' be seeing anymore lineups like Sunday:

"I can't let these guys all sit," Piniella said. "We have to use them
to keep them as sharp as possible. We'll play our regular lineup in
these games [against New York]. The worst thing that can happen is
Major League Baseball calls us and tells us, 'Hey, you people have a
responsibility,' and we're going to honor that. 

I'm not exactly sure that's the worst thing that can happen, the worst thing that could happen is that Soriano gets nailed with a fastball or Ramirez shreds a hamstring, etc, etc. But Lou is right that you just can't sit them for a week.  As I discussed last week, I think Lou should be weary of using his starting pitchers versus the Mets. When it comes to the question of unfamiliarity between a pitcher and a hitter, I think the advantage goes to the pitcher. The less a team has seen a pitcher, the bigger the disadvantage. Now I don't worry much about Jason Marquis going tonight since he's been in the league long enough that many of the Mets hitters have seen enough of him already and he probably won't pitch against them if they are the Cubs first round opponent. But the rest of the week has Harden vs. Johan, Zambrano vs. Perez and Lilly vs Pedro. First, let's applaud the Mets for having two pitchers who are simply known by their first names.

Second, I understand that you don't want to completely sit your starting pitchers and risk getting them rusty, but I do hope Lou sticks with a plan to limit them to 5 innings and no more than two times through the lineup. If you look at some of the numbers, Harden has only faced one Mets hitter at least 10 times and that's Carlos Delgado. Lilly is in much of the same boat, with only Delgado and Luis Castillo getting more than 10 AB's. Zambrano being a native National Leaguer, has faced most of the Mets lineup quite a bit more, including a one-run effort earlier in the season. 

All in all, it's probably not a big deal, but what else are we going to worry about this week?

Some random notes after the jump....

- The Cubs 2008 division champ hats are pretty sweet. I usually hold off until the Cubs playoff run is over before purchasing any merchandise to see how far they get. Who wants a 2008 division champ shirt if a 2008 NL Pennant or 2008 World Series Champs one is coming down the pipeline? But I might have to break my rule on that one.

- I was updating our Cubs 40-man roster page, and didn't realize that the Cubs practically called up the entire roster. 

- You can download Eddie Vedder's new Cubs anthem from the Pearl Jam website. I'm going to try and get it up on the sidebar over the next day or two.

-  Arizona Phil recently gave us his thoughts on the playoff roster and I think I agree with his rotation. Dempster for Game 1 seems like a no-brainer now, because not only does Dempster have experience in the bullpen for later in the series, but he's also been lights out at home. At the moment, I think I'd like to see Dempster, Harden, Zambrano, Lilly but that could change depending on the opponent and how they throw this week.

As for the rest of the roster, I'd like to see this:

C - Soto, Blanco

INF - Lee, Ward, Fontenot, DeRosa, Cedeno, Theriot, Ramirez

OF - Soriano, Edmonds, Fukudome, Johnson

SP - Zambrano, Lilly, Harden, Dempster

RP - Wood, Marmol, Samardzija, Cotts, Marquis, Gaudin (assuming he's healthy, which sounds like he is),  and anyone not named Bob Howry.

Sadly, I think Howry will make the roster and then it's just a matter if Gaudin is healthy and if Lou can stomach crushing the soul of Marquis for another season. I think Marquis has done enough down the stretch to shake those "he's a first-half pitcher" tag, so as long as he's not whining about being put in the pen, he'd be nice to have around in case our slightly fragile starting rotation gets hurt.

That also eaves one spot for either Micah Hoffpauir or Felix Pie. I actually think the Cubs need a righty bench bat like Casey McGehee, but he just hasn't done much. I'd probably give the spot to Hoffpauir myself. Although Pie offers more dimensions to his game, Hoffpauir might actually get a hit. And would anyone want to see Lou having to be forced to use Pie as a pinch-hitter? But that could all be subject to change when they figure out who the Cubs opponent is.

- I discovered a neat trick/tool for you Mac users. I've always had problems isolating clips to store on my own computer because I'm weird like that. But I came across Tube TV and have been saving clips from the 2008 season that you can find at Just find the clip you want, paste the URL in the Tube TV browser and download it. You can then convert if if necesary for your Ipod or Apple TV, but that's not necessary.





I actually think Vedder's song is great. But it's a bit melancholy to be a rally song.

I don't think anyone has better captured what it means to be a Cub fan.

"When you're born in Chicago, you're blessed and you're healed
The first time you walk into Wrigley Field"

"We are one with the Cubs, with the Cubs we're in love
Yeah, hold our head high as the underdog
We are not fair weather but fall weather fans
We're like brothers in arms in the streets and the stands"

"In the same ballpark, our diamond, our jewel
The home of our joy and our tears"

it's foul-weather fans fwiw...

rally song might be a poor word choice, let's say sing-along...

whatever, it's awesome.

Vedder's song is whiny and Cubs funs get accused of that all too often.
Me? I would like to hear a "spirited" cover of "Go Cubs Go," by : 1)Dinasaur Jr.
3)any random polka band
4)random death metal band
5)Bluegrass band
Assemble the musicians and get to work!

"Cubs funs"?

and it's whiny? didn't get that at all...

I agree totally. First time I heard the song, I thoroughly expected Michael Flatley to come out and start dancing that damn "Lord of the Dance" crap! I understand that Vedder is a Cub fan and just wants to add to the Cub mystic, but that song just "ain't" going to cut in CHICAGO!

I am just trying to figure out how Pearl Jam is selling their own bootlegs. Talk about an oxymoron.

that would be funny if it ended up to be true, but I would guess they had an agreement with the venue and I'm sure they had it planned ahead.

PJ records all their concerts, and they're available for download from their website the next day for like $9.95. It's actually a really cool deal. You can download the entire concert you just saw (or pick any other show that has a playlist you want). Not sure if they still do, but they also used to mail the discs to go along with it as well.

Anyway, the point is, they record everything so that's why that song is now available for download.

Yup... bands never sell live music. Ever.

Nothing is whinier then death metal.

Your mom disagrees. She says Brick is.

Nope sorry, the whiny list goes like this:

Death metal
Rage Against the Machine
Bob Dylan
Sarah Palin
Manny (from here)
Al Gore
Rosie O'Donnell
Colin Cowherd
Cindy Sheehan
Terrell Owens
Rage Against the Machine
Rage Against the Machine
Rage Against the Machine
Rage Against the Machine
Rage Against the Machine
Rage Against the Machine
Rage Against the Machine
Rage Against the Machine

They're all desperate for your mom too?


Most of the world is it seems.

Rage Against the Machine though are desperate for decent lyrics. Keep chasing that dream boys!

I say we kidnap The Hold Steady and force them to give up the Twins and learn to love the Cubs. There's no better band for this team.

Here's their version of Take Me Out To The Ballgame. It's Twin's-centric but it freakin rocks.

wasn't overwhelmed by that one...

this remix is better

I kid...

Entourage sig line?

Why yes it is.

That was the worst remix ever.

I didn't look at the lyrics closely. That line is so key, too. We are foul weather fans.

And it is a great closing time song for Wrigley Field bars.

Funny, I thought the lockeroom division champ hat is butt ugly. Do you really want an "08 MLB" logo on the front brim of the cap?

I purchased a different one on, just to have a momento.
I'd happily pay a few extra bucks for a 2nd (and maybe 3rd) hat.

I'd hope to see Soto sit 3 times this week, and Lee, Ramirez, and Soriano sit 2 times each....just mix them up so only one is sitting at a time. I'd have to think MLB would accept that without question.

I do not think it would be the right decision, but I fully expect to see Zambrano start game 1 and Game 5. I see Harden starting game 3.

What I'd want:
1. Dempster
2. Zambrano
3. Harden
4. Lilly
5. Dempster (assuming a good game 1 start)

What I expect:
1. Zambrano
2. Dempster
3. Harden
4. Lilly (Or Z on short rest, down 2-1)
5. Zambrano

That's 9 days off over seven days. It's going to be quite a trick to sit only one at a time. I agree with the thought though. I would like all the starters to get Saturday or Sunday off. With that and the 3 days until the start of the playoffs, they should be good. Theriot is getting overpowered by thigh high 90 MPH fastballs. He can rest 4 days this week, if they think that will get him going.

also a good point....don't mind Z going Game 3 either myself. He could come back out of the pen for a couple of innings in Game 5 if necessary. You know they wouldn't risk that with Harden. Although they probably shouldn't be risking it with Z either.

Tough to nail this down though until you know the opponent.


whoops, meant to reply to your other comment about Harden pitching Game 2.

Lord of the Dance? That clown doesn't stomp to slow stuff. The Vedder tune is a classic drinking song with the requisite repeated phrase, in this case, "Someday we'll go all the way" to be sung at the top of one's inebriated lungs. It's not meant to whip fans into a frenzy.

I like a lot of Steve Goodman's songs but Go Cubs Go is, without a doubt, his worst. It makes Bear Down Chicago Bears seem like Stravinsky.

Oh, and I doubt Marshall will be left off the post season roster. Seems like it's between Marquis, the Notre Dame guy and Howry.

bar/party anthem is what I was thinking as well.

It's good stuff...

Rob G , I meant Cubs fans. Don't be so anal. I stand by my suggestions. It's matter of taste. "Go Cubs Go" on its own is pretty lame; it needs aggression. I don't wah wah crying in my beer victimhood. No prisoners! That's the idea.
Marshall should stay on the roster. Howry? Not so much.

honestly didn't know what you were trying to say...I was guilty of being slow, not anal.

arguing music tastes is about as fruitless as arguing politics, but I prefer the slower sing-alongs to bond with my fellow Cubs fans.

Harden in game 2 makes a lot of sense, since you know the bullpen will be working 3 innings and they'll have Friday off.

Well, you may be right, but I would also expect Harden to be stretched out a little more in the playoffs. He has averaged 99 pitches a start since coming to the Cubs (and 97 pitches with the A's), but I would expect him to be pushed further than that in the playoffs.

Of course, if he has the same control as he had in the last start, he will be lucky to finish 5 innings again.

Vedder is a poseur from Evanston who pretended to be from Seattle until it was convenient for him to be from the Chicago area. No biggie, but he's a whiny guy from the get - go; let's try for something else, please.

BTW, why does the song have to mention the Cubs specifically? "Jump" was a pretty good tune for the '84 team, and no one gave a damn that it wasn't about the Cubs.

I think the best team anthems are the ones that arise organically. As much as I effing hate that the White Sox stole "Don't Stop Believin'" back in 2005, that one just started as a rallying cry for the team and stuck around. Trying to force Steve Goodman on us, and now Vedder's song feels just that - forced (and I love Pearl Jam, but I feel the song is a bit too slow/repetitive/sentimental to be a rallying song).

Jump is/was a terrible song. It signaled the end of Van Halen as a great rock band.


To each their own, I guess, but I love Pearl Jam, and I think this song rocks. Of course, I don't expect everyone to agree, it's just my opinion. I've been listening to it about every couple of hours since I first heard it. And I'll continue to listen to it at least for the rest of the season.

As far as a rallying song - it's not great. It doesn't have the ring of a rallying song. It's more of a bar song that everyone can sing along with while drinking their beer.

I'm no great Pearl Jam fan, but I think the Eddie Vedder song is poetic, touching and real. I am a Cubs fan in large part because it connects me to my memories of my Dad, who died when I was 7 years old.

"In the same ballpark, our diamond, our jewel.
The home of our joy and our tears.

Keeping traditions and wishes made new.
The place where our grandfathers' fathers they grew.
A spiritual feeling if I ever knew.
And if you ain't been I am sorry for you."

EV captures the pull of memories, our connections between the past and the present and our love of a place and a team and our hope within an epic struggle. You can hear in his voice that he means what he says -- and he sings it with true hope for the future. Yes, someday we'll go all the way.

I listened to it about 5 times through and by the 5th time, when the words and the emotion of his voice had sunk in, I was in tears.

Most sports team songs are just plain bad or embarrassing. This one is beautiful and moving. IMO.

Good job, Eddie Vedder.


There's no point in arguing music, it's too subjective. Let's just get a college marching band and some hot cheerleaders and go at it.

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  • it took you 4 posts to get to this?

    have you checked the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector?

    #droppingknowledge #savinglives

    crunch 19 min 8 sec ago view
  • Fwiw, Billy Hamilton's actual WAR numbers that relate to the ones that I posted for Mike Trout are:

    • 2014: 2.5
    • 2015: 1.0
    • 2016: 2.6

    But by all means #crunchsplain on the stupidity of WAR while exaggerating your points. I can't wait to read more.

    Rob G. 24 min 26 sec ago view
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  • *stroking intensifies*

    crunch 28 min 4 sec ago view
  • #crunchsplaining

    Thanks for the awesome give and take today and for the 535 words you spilled filling in all the gaps that I woefully neglected. We're all a little wiser and better for it. I look forward to your play-by-play summary later in the comments.

    Rob G. 34 min 33 sec ago view
  • it was about a post comparing players based on WAR...and comparing WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...a post that you made...and i made a comment...that talked about D weighting of WAR...and comparinging WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...etc etc...

    hell, we didn't even get in deep. i didn't even involve UZR or FIP versions and their strengths/weaknesses...or position mandated "handicapping" in points...etc.

    let's not talk about, fine, awesome. context sucks. san dimas highschool football rules.


    crunch 42 min 28 sec ago view
  • Ha

    jacos 58 min 6 sec ago view
  • Thanks for shining a light on this very important topic and steering it away from the frivolity that was the awesomenes of Mike Trout, but moreso on the foolishness of WAR as a metric to judge the value of center fielders. We're all a little wiser now and your contributions are invaluable to this community and to America's pastime. God Bless!

    Rob G. 1 hour 20 min ago view
  • so...what's chan-yong lim up to these days?


    crunch 2 hours 45 min ago view
  • yes, those hamilton WAR numbers are very reasonable. i'm on your side now based on that biting commentary and reasoning of why he's a 3.5-ish WAR player over a 600 PA season.

    those numbers are obviously well deserved and worthy of no scrutiny...none at all. no issue.

    CF D is rarer than a jon lester pickoff at 2nd...totally way in hell there's good D, low/no-hitting CF's in anyone's system that could do what hamilton is doing. guys like this don't get like, 2-3 at any given time in history.

    crunch 3 hours 5 min ago view
  • Please do not discuss War here. I think the Cub Reporter should be politics free.

    But yes, whether you support War or Peace...Mike Trout is ridiculously consistent and good.

    blockhead25 5 hours 23 min ago view
  • ^^^#WARTruther

    Rob G. 5 hours 35 min ago view
  • "According to FOX Sports' Jon Morosi, Tim Tebow's baseball workout Tuesday in Los Angeles will be attended by scouts from "roughly half" of the 30 major league teams."

    "One scout told last week that Tebow's swing is so long it might "take out the front row." That's not a good thing."

    crunch 8 hours 6 min ago view
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    The #MBpelicans and @Cubs have extended their PDC through 2020!
    Carolina League getting 2 new teams too.

    QuietMan 8 hours 25 min ago view
  • CF WAR is ridiculous...billy hamilton is pulling a 3.0 WAR somehow...and managed a 2.0 WAR last year (even though he missed a month of the season)...and a 3.7 WAR in 2014.

    yeah, a lot depends on how one is doing relative to others at a given position, but WAR is common used (right or wrong) as a blanket comparing all kinds of players.

    trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo.

    crunch 8 hours 31 min ago view
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