When Winning Is A Bad Thing
Gee, you get tied up for a full day and the comments explode and forget to put Matt Garza and James Shields in your fantasy starting lineup.
(kicks dirt)
Anyway, the Cubs have managed a 4-game winning streak, in close proximity to a 3-game winning streak (wth a 5-game losing streak in between) and it's about the most enraging thing that could happen besides Hendry sleeping through the trade deadlne. If Q-Ball goes on another second half run, Hendry and him are gonna be validated that it was just the injuries and the pieces are in place to be a good team. Not to mention screwing up their draft spot for next year.
(heavy sigh)
That being said, nice to see the Pirates falling back to Earth a little. Neat story and all, but the offense is bad (of course so is the Giants), but I don't really believe in their pitching talent much, unlike the aforementioned Giants. That being said, they're seemingly on their way back to respectability and can start considering diving back into free agency in the upcoming offseasons.
Also nice to see the Brewers leading the division because that's what I predicted and I get extra points on my blogging rewards card for possibly picking the right door numbered one through six.
Let's look at some post ASB numbers to fill space...
- Byrd 324/360/577 3 HR/6 RBI/10 R
- Soto 295/358/459 2 HR/9 RBI/6 R
- Castro 321/349/436 2 HR/8 RBI/10 R/2 of 6 SB
- Ramirez 221/236/515 5 HR/16 RBI/9 R
- Pena 200/347/333 1 HR/4 RBI/5 R
- Barney 231/265/338 0 HR/3 RBI/6 R/1 of 2 SB
- Soriano 154/154/415 5/11/5
I don't know what it all means except for the love of Santo, someone put Soriano out to pasture.
On to the pitching...
- Garza 2.41 ERA/33.2 IP/30 K/9 BB/2 HR
- Grabow 2.45 ERA/7.1 IP
- Marshall 2.70 ERA/10 IP
- Wells 4.13 ERA 17 K/ 8 BB/4 HR
- Dempster 4.70 ERA 27 K/5 BB/1 HR
- Zambrano 5.01 ERA 17 K/10 BB/ 4 HR
- Samardzija 5.40 ERA 8 K/5 BB/0 HR
- Marmol 9.72 ERA 12 K/9 BB/0 HR
- Wood 10.80 ERA 4 K/4 BB/1 HR
Wherever that magical pasture is that makes million dollar contracts go away, may Zambrano find his way there as well.
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Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 2:08pm Permalink
Aloha
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 3:02pm Permalink
that was last week, fun times.
Last day and a half has just been work hell.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:14pm Permalink
what island did you go to?
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:24pm Permalink
Maui
stayed in Wailea almost the entire time, where went on our honeymoon and this was for our 10-year.
mostly poolside, some ocean, a little snorkeling, ridiculous good food and spent part of a day in Lahaina bringing back gifts for people.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:30pm Permalink
very nice...glad you had fun...and that you found good food (can be tricky).
when im done with my current adventures in medicine i'm going to spend a few weeks on kauai, myself. a lot more boring than maui, but quiet.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:00pm Permalink
Somewhere near there there's a little place that sells amazing fish sandwiches, just in some little strip mall on the coastal road. They're so good that when I ate one I nearly wet my pants and screamed like a woman rooting for the Pirates.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 9:35pm Permalink
You are my hero.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:15pm Permalink
When I make it to Maui, I spend most of my time in Lahaina. It's just so much more laid back there. The best food I have had in Maui is just south of there. Sweet prawns tahitian.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:41pm Permalink
Always wanted to go to HI but went to Carribean. St John FTW.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:45pm Permalink
anything seafood there I've always found amazing, so much fresher. and the whole island (and helps we've been on vacation), just has a cool, laid back vibe.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:53pm Permalink
you better be laid back when all you got is a single island. HI is a chain of islands, but there's no ferry. If you want to island hop you either got to have a boat and places to dock or take a plane.
besides, when it's 80s-low 90s year-round (with record highs being in the mid-90s, never hitting 100+) it's hard to be too pissy.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 1:12pm Permalink
I was saying that Lahaina is much more laid back than the rest of Maui, even. More of a "local" feel and much less commercialized.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 1:34pm Permalink
could see that, the shaved ice I got at Local Boys was one of our favorite parts of the trip. I never thought I'd be so passionate about shaved ice.
http://localboysshaveice.com/
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 3:46pm Permalink
We were 8-16 against the Bucs the last two seasons before this series, so I'm thoroughly enjoying the sweep so far.
When their pitcher started crying last night, I laughed, but I hear that a lot of women Cub fans started rooting for the Pirates!
Re: women Cub fans started rooting for the Pirates!
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:25pm Permalink
A lot of the commenters here said they were gonna be Pirates fans from here on out. I dunno if they're women or not.
Apparently they weren't serious.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:14pm Permalink
I'm rooting for the Pirates.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 8:40pm Permalink
I'm tooting for the Pirates. Had some beans with dinner.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 8:54pm Permalink
it's really nice (imo) to see people at the park in pitt...it's a great ballpark.
lot of kids at the games in this series having fun.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 9:39pm Permalink
at 2:58 that line is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgOqcH1Ywzs
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 9:56pm Permalink
"I told you to lay off the beans, you whore!"
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:42pm Permalink
subscription article on Szczur from BA allegedly, let me know if there's anything interesting.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/majors/...
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 4:46pm Permalink
speaking of Chirinos, 2/2 with 2 RBI's as a pinch hitter today
including the game tying hit in the bottom of the 11th and GW hit in the bottom of the 12th.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:25pm Permalink
Umm.. How did he get 2 AB as a PH? Are they playing a Doubleheader?
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 5:35pm Permalink
came in as a pinch hitter, sorry.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:03pm Permalink
Rays fans will forever refer to this as The Chirinos Game.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:24pm Permalink
well played Mauer
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:40am Permalink
Technically you can do it if they bat around, I think.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 10:29am Permalink
The Reds kind of did this to the Cubs earlier this year in a very cold and annoying game in Cincy in which I unfortunately attended. But I guess Miguel Cairo only had one AB in the 6th, not two- the other plate appearance was a BB.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:37pm Permalink
saw the video of it, about 6 inches each time from being groundballs back to the pitcher. Better to be lucky than good.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 9:40am Permalink
"about 6 inches each time from being groundballs back to the pitcher."
Sorry to be finicky, but I think you're referring to something that I'm just starting to get used to: on the highlights, they show the same play several times from different camera angles and I think from different broadcasting crews.
It was only the first hit that went near the pitcher. The second was to the third-base side of short--also not a great hit, and the shortstop could have gotten a glove on it, but either way it was good enough with the winning run on third.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:44pm Permalink
Soto with a HR and throws out a runner.
Buy a lottery ticket while he's at it.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 6:54pm Permalink
dewitt hits the cubs 10th homer of the series...think all the runs the cubs have scored have come on the long ball.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:08pm Permalink
in case you didn't notice, the Cubs are building a winning organization
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball...
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:42am Permalink
I know you said be nice, but ...
Asked what changes the team might undertake this upcoming offseason, Ricketts was noncommittal."I don't know just yet," he said. "It's something we'll decide at the right time."
Thank fucking time. Even if I am taking it out of context, let's imagine I am not.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 1:31pm Permalink
Changes will Ricketts is looking at likely include more food choices and a season ticket like charge for an express restroom. Hendry isn't going anywhere.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 11:23am Permalink
"
"Todd did a very nice job. It was a big commitment," said Ricketts. "He had to take off a week of his life, grow a beard and stay away from the park a month before the filming. He took one for the team. I still walk around the park every home game and someone will say, 'I loved you on Undercover Boss.' I'm, like, it wasn't me."
OH. MY. GOODNESS.
This man is lauding his brother for fucking off, growing a beard and going on a stupid tv show, as 'a big commitment.' Now, maybe he was laughing a little when he said this...?
Because I'm pretty sure reality has, again, left the building.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:13pm Permalink
3 rbi double given up to the pitcher with 2 outs giving up the lead...there's that cubbery we know and love.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:15pm Permalink
Officially added to the list of signed draft picks:
ROUND 26 (789): Michael Jensen, RHP (Hartnell JC)
R/R, 6'1, 185, 20 years old
COMMENT: JC sophomore... Pre-season JUCO All-American... Went 6-3 with a 2.00 ERA for the Panthers in 2011... Will transfer to USC if he does not sign with Cubs...
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:29pm Permalink
to the bottom 5th...
- R. Ortiz relieved R. Lopez
oh yeah, your 2011 cubs.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 11:24am Permalink
I know, what year is this again??
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:41pm Permalink
fwiw, Michael Burgess having a nice July/August after an ugly first half of just walk, K's and HR's
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 10:00pm Permalink
It figures, now that the trade deadline has mostly passed, and all the vets who were rumored to be going are all still here, they relax and start winning. Hendry and Quade will be saying how this proves all along the team is ready to contend in 2012.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:35am Permalink
Cubs-ASU partnership proposed at Riverview.
Riverview Park is located two miles east of Packard Stadium in the City of Mesa (but right near the Mesa/Tempe border), and Packard is located on the far N/E corner of the ASU campus, just east of Sun Devil Stadium.
The City of Tempe has developed a shopping, restaurant, and theatre complex called "Tempe Marketplace" on Rio Salado Parkway halfway between Packard Stadium & Riverview Park, and the City of Mesa has devloped a shopping, restaurant & theatre complex (with a hotel) a mile east of Tempe Marketplace at Dobson Road & 8th Street (Rio Salado Parkway) across the street from Riverview Park, so the area's businesses are desperate to attract crowds to the area for more than just Cubs Spring Training.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:37pm Permalink
"ASU would practice and play rent-free in the stadium"
in this economy...and, unfortunately, in AZ where taxation, revenue, and services offered are all in decline...this is almost too good of a deal to pass up.
a modern ballpark with no grounds upkeep costs or employees for maintenance.
i don't know how much they make on concessions or how the selling of ASU gear at the park will be handled, but it still looks like a nice offer from the outside looking in.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 1:59am Permalink
This was the Cubs first four-game sweep in Pittsburgh since June 1959.
Here are the box scores from those games (Roberto Clemente was injured and did not play in the series)...
1. Tony Taylor had four hits and Ernie Banks knocked-in three runs with a two-run homer and a sacrifice fly, as the Cubs pounded out 17 hits en route to a 10-5 thrashing of the Pittsburgh Pirates at Forbes Field (Friday June, 5, 1959 box score)
2. An Ernie Banks RBI triple and a Moose Moryn two-run HR keyed a six-run Cub 1st inning and Moe Drabowsky tossed a complete game to even his record at 4-4, as the Cubs coasted to an 8-2 victory over the Pittsburgh Pirates at Forbes Field (Saturday June 6, 1959 box score)
3. Tony Taylor had three more hits (giving him nine hits in the first three games of the series), Bobby Thomson clubbed a two-run HR, and John Buzhardt threw 7.2 IP of four-hit ball, leading the Cubs to a 4-2 win over the Pirates in Game #1 of a Sunday doubleheader at Forbes Field in Pittsburgh (Sunday June 7, 1959 - Game #1 box score)
4. In what was to be the last start of his big league career, 39-year old ex-Pirate Elmer Singleton and two relievers combined to throw a three-hit shutout in Game #2 of the doubleheader as the Cubs blanked the Pirates 1-0, moving past the Bucs into 3rd place in the National League, while improving their season record to 28-25 (Sunday June 7, 1959 - Game #2 box score)
This was the Cubs high-water mark for the 1959 season, as they ended up finishing in 6th place with a 74-80 record (there were eight teams in each league and no divisions back then), 12 games behind the Los Angeles Dodgers and Milwaukee Braves, who finished in a dead-heat tie for 1st place. (Dodgers then won a best two-out-of-three playoff over the Braves, and defeated the White Sox four games to two in the World Series).
Ernie Banks hit 304/374/596 with 45 HR & 143 RBI for the Cubs in 1959, and won his second consecutive N. L. MVP Award.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 9:53am Permalink
Nick Struck is settling in at Iowa. Last night:
6 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 0 walks, 7 strikeouts.
Struck is 21, drafted in 2009. Iowa was his second promotion this season.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 10:09am Permalink
Va Phil
What's his strengths?
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 10:58am Permalink
What's his strengths?
He's the Cubs only minor league starter who's been worth a shit this year.
I would have to say that minor league pitching has been an even bigger disapointment than our MLB starters this year.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 11:04am Permalink
Robert Whitenack sure was looking good, so I guess you could say he was worth a shit. The whole TJ surgery thing definitely is kick in the nads, though...
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:24pm Permalink
some guys near the league leaders in ERA that I could find
Eric Jokisch 107.2 IP/30 BB/90 K/2.93 ERA/1.17 WHIP (Peoria)
Austin Kirk 118 IP/27 BB/101 K/3.43 ERA/1.02 WHIP (Peoria)
Raley 109 IP/40 BB/59 K/13 HR/4.29 ERA/1.59 WHIP (AA)
Rusin 99.1 IP/20 BB/65 K/7 HR/3.81 ERA/1.248 WHIP (AA and AAA)
McNutt, Hayden Pawelek, Jackson have had rough years...
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:41pm Permalink
What's his big pitches?
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:11pm Permalink
Matt Loosen is making progress as well.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:14pm Permalink
113 IP/87 K/36 BB/2 HR/1.460 WHIP in 3 stops this year
not bad, not great...
doesn't seem to be much of a groundball pitcher either
being 21 in Iowa though and not sucking is neat though.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 11:06pm Permalink
"What's his strengths?"
I'm a box-score scout, Jacos, so I can only describe Struck as a 5-11, 185 lb. righthander.
I do keep a ranking of Cub pitchers based on strikeouts and (fewest) hits allowed. Current Cub starters (and sometime starters) with more strikeouts than hits allowed are Kurcz, Loosen, Searle, Greathouse, Kirk, Whitenack and Rosscup. Antigua, Liria and Jokisch are close. Struck does not fare well in this ranking.
On the other hand, strikeouts and hits allowed are not everything, and Struck is at Iowa at age 21, as Rob says, and he's doing well and helping solidify the starting rotation. Three of his last four outings were quality starts.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 12:33am Permalink
Thanks
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 5:06am Permalink
Jacos
This is from toonster on another cubs site:
Athletic kid, hearing that he's hitting mid-90's more this season. That said, he goes to his 2-seamer/sinker quite a bit (better pitch than reaching back and ripping with the high heat), so his average fastball velo is typically more low 90's. Solid control. Has to improve the secondary pitches, but have heard a couple times this year that the pitches, which were inconsistent last year, look sharper this year and are at least average pitches with the chance to be better (and the curve is probably above average).
and
I'm a lot more bullish on Struck than that. Fastball is supposedly topping out in the mid-90's (slight increase from last year numbers that I had), and have heard that his secondary stuff, change and slider, are both looking solid.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 8:02am Permalink
That's encouraging to hear about Struck stuff-wise. At 5-11, 185lb perhaps he's got some Saberhagen in him.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:35pm Permalink
Baseball America's Prospect Hot Sheet
Brett Jackson for the week .462/.576/.962 (12-for-26), 4 HR, 1 2B, 6 RBIs, 9 R, 7 BB, 6 SO, 0-for-1 SB
Jackson was sidelined by a broken finger in May with Double-A Tennessee. It took a little time, but he has gotten back on track and hit his stride after moving up to Triple-A Iowa in mid-July. The Cubs' 2009 first-round pick owns a .293/.400/.573 line in 75 Triple-A at-bats after hitting .256/.373/.443 in the Southern League. One thing that never suffered was Jackson's eye at the plate, and he has drawn 59 walks in 88 games between the two levels. Jackson led off two games with home runs this week, and he had four multi-hit games.
And the Not So Hot Sheet:
• D.J. Lemahieu, 3b/2b, Cubs. Lemahieu struggled during a short callup to the majors, batting .216/.216/.243 in 37 at-bats as an injury fill-in for Darwin Barney. He had been doing well since going down to Triple-A Iowa at the end of June, but the 23-year-old was perfectly imperfect this week, posting a .000/.000/.000 line after going 0-for-19 with four strikeouts. Just for good measure, he did reach base on a fielder's choice in last Saturday's game but was promptly thrown out trying to steal second.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospect...
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 12:37pm Permalink
Good to hear those things about Brett Jackson. Is he passable defensively? Does he have an arm?
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 1:04pm Permalink
He's sort of like our current center fielder. Range probably plays (and down the line definitely) better in a corner, but arm that is a bit short for RF or long center throws. Not an embarrasment but not Bo Jackson, either.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 1:14pm Permalink
3 OF assists in his past 11 games or so at AAA. It's definately good enough.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 1:44pm Permalink
Campana jus thit an inside the park HR....Damn is he fast.... The LF misplayed it a bit off the padding, but wow.....
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:03pm Permalink
That was fun. It got me thinking about Sosa's inside the park grand slam vs the Pirates (which Len mentioned but failed to note it was a grand slam). I wondered how rare an inside the park grand slam is. Shockingly, not very rare at all. 224 in MLB history, and Honus Wagner had 5 in his career.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:41pm Permalink
that was indeed fun to watch...
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110...
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:50pm Permalink
Standing up!
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:18pm Permalink
Jae-Hoon Ha starting August hot (533/529/667) after a terrible July (222/269/349)
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:21pm Permalink
"Ha starting August hot (533/529..." that's our Cubs prospects we've come to love. Even when they're tearing the cover off the ball their OBP is lower than their BA.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 2:29pm Permalink
k.hill is totally worth 800K.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 3:26pm Permalink
But not 850K?
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 4:10pm Permalink
absolutely not.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 3:37pm Permalink
Who needs Brett Jackson when we have the Mighty Midget patrolling CF? Nice to see someone run their ass off after a ball (and make it look almost routine).
I still doubt Campana can hit enough to be more than a end-of-bench type player, but who knows. It's more fun than watching guys like Mike Restovich and Kal Daniels.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 4:00pm Permalink
Slappy for team MVP!
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 4:13pm Permalink
chapman just threw a ball through the net behind home plate...wow for missing that badly and wow for putting a ball through the net.
he's been showing off a slider in the 88-92 range...unreal.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 4:31pm Permalink
6 wins in a row...lulz.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 5:10pm Permalink
AZ Phil- How would you compare Wes Darvill and Marco Hernandez? Who is the better prospect? Darvill is struggling at Boise and Hernandez is tearing up the AZL. Would it benefit the two to switch? I've never seen either in person but based off the stats, Hernandez looks like he needs to be challenged. Thanks as always
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 8:20pm Permalink
Submitted by W Flag on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 4:10pm.
AZ Phil- How would you compare Wes Darvill and Marco Hernandez? Who is the better prospect? Darvill is struggling at Boise and Hernandez is tearing up the AZL. Would it benefit the two to switch? I've never seen either in person but based off the stats, Hernandez looks like he needs to be challenged. Thanks as always
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W FLAG: Both Wes Darvill and Marco Hernandez have just passable arms, so both probably are better-suited to play 2B, although there is no reason to move either of them at this time. Darvill is smoother and more-consistent defensively of the two.
Darvill is one of the most-patient hitters in the organization, and he has a good eye, too. He still struggles as a hitter and he has no power, despite having a frame that would make you think he has the potential to develop a power stroke even if he doesn't hit for average. Darvill is also a good base-runner and base-stealer (he is a long-strider), and is a sure-handed defender with good ball-handling skills. If he continues down the present course without developing XBH power, he would probably project as a LH version of Nate Samson.
Marco Hernandez learned to switch-hit at AZ Instructs last fall, and he is good hitter. He drives the ball with occasional HR power when batting left-handed, but is more of a slap-hitter right-handed. He also is a good bunter. He has adequate range to play SS, but his arm strength & accuracy are an issue. That's why he probably projects long-term as a 2B. He runs OK (average speed for a middle-infielder), but he is not a burner by any means.
It's possible that Marco Hernandez could get moved-up to Boise before the end of the 2011 season, but I don't think Darvill would get moved-down. A more-likely scenario is that things will remain pretty much as they are right now through the end of the regular season, and then Darvill and M. Hernandez will attend AZ Instructs at Fitch Park in September-October to work on improving their game.
Then Darvill, M. Hernandez, and Arismemdy Alcantara (despite the high error total, he has the best arm, range, and speed of the three) will battle for the starting SS job at Daytona next March, with the other two ending up at Peoria, one as the starting SS, and the other as the #1 back-up middle-infielder. If I had to bet on which one would be where, I would say Alcantara will start the 2012 season as the #1 SS at Daytona, Hernandez will be the #1 SS at Peoria, and Darvill will be the back-up SS-2B at Peoria.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 10:22pm Permalink
Arizona Phil - Assuming Lake's not picked up in the Rule V draft, will he split time at SS in Tenn next season with Logan Watkins? I've been impressed with Watkins after starting the season off so slow offensively, he's really picked it up. Does Watkins have enough arm/athleticism to stay at short?
Moving to 2B, Zeke DeVoss wasn't in Arizona very long for you to get see him much, but how does DeVoss compare to Eric Patterson when he was in the Cubs system?
Also, thanks for the recap of the last 4 game sweep of the bucs in the 'burg ... that Ernie Banks line of 304/374/596 with 45 HR & 143 RBI is crazy good.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 11:46pm Permalink
Submitted by Eric S on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 9:22pm.
Arizona Phil - Assuming Lake's not picked up in the Rule V draft, will he split time at SS in Tenn next season with Logan Watkins? I've been impressed with Watkins after starting the season off so slow offensively, he's really picked it up. Does Watkins have enough arm/athleticism to stay at short?
Moving to 2B, Zeke DeVoss wasn't in Arizona very long for you to get see him much, but how does DeVoss compare to Eric Patterson when he was in the Cubs system?
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ERIC S: A Zeke DeVoss comp to Eric Patterson is a good one.
I do believe both Junior Lake and Logan Watkins will begin the 2012 season at Tennessee, and I think both will probably be moved around quite a bit, Lake at SS-3B-CF, and Watkins at 2B-SS-LF-CF. And I suspect Matt Cerda will play 3B-2B. Whenever possible the Cubs like to have a player move around to different positions in the minors to help develop the player's versatility, in case the player arrives in MLB as a bench guy (as most do).
Watkins has the athleticism to play SS, 2B, LF, and CF, but his natural arm angle & release point probably fits best at 2B. And so if he ever becomes an everyday player in the big leagues, it will probably be at 2B. He reminds me a bit of Mickey Morandini.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 7:58am Permalink
Thanks AP
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 5:25pm Permalink
hehe
amusing tweet
@The_Heckler Mike Quade: Manager of the year when it don't matter 2 years in a row!
and this from Muskat
#Cubs Campana says All-Star Game might want to add sprint competition. Here's the field: Campy, Nyjer Morgan, Bourn, Gomez & LA's Gordon
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 5:34pm Permalink
no e.bonifacio? cold.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Fri, 08/05/2011 - 9:55pm Permalink
How about an HGH competition?
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 2:20am Permalink
How about an HGH competition?
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They had that for years, it's called the Home Run Derby.
Re: When Winning Is A Bad Thing
on Sat, 08/06/2011 - 8:03am Permalink
Good point!