Carlos Pena Claimed On Waivers

Buster Olney tweets that a claim was awarded on Carlos Pena. Depending on when that actually happened, the Cubs and the mystery team at the moment have about 48 hours to work out a deal. If nothing can be hammered out, the Cubs can pull Pena back off waivers or they can just let him go to the team and save the remaining salary left on his contract which includes the $5M deferred money he's owed on January 1st, 2012.

While Pena is now on track to be a Type B free agent and there's certainly plenty of value in the possibility of getting a supplemental round pick for him (although no sure thing), there's probably more value at the moment in saving the $5.5M or so he's owed, regardless of the prospects they may get back.

Possible Correction: It seems there's a bit of a confusion that if Pena is just given away, the Cubs could still be on the hook for the $5M in deferred money. Not sure why it works that way or how, but that's the current rumor by MLB Trade Rumors and Arizona Phil.

Update: Rosenthal tweets:

Pena claimed, but #Cubs likely to pull him back. Need 1B for 2012, want to keep options open. Did not get good offers before 7/31.

Considering Hendry's claim that he didn't want to make too many deals before the deadline, hopefully the thinking has changed.

Update #2 from Rosenthal:

#Cubs Pena has 5M deferred, payable 1/12. If trade occurred, Cubs would pay pro-rated portion - almost all. Again, deal unlikely.

This has gotten about 90% less exciting than it was an hour ago. My math tells me then that the claiming team would be on the hook for about $1.67M if the Cubs just let him go.

Update #3 from Jon Heyman says it was the Yankees. I assume they're just happy to take on the money then.

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Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:17pm
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Comments

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:19pm

LET HIM GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:56pm

So is Brian LaHair going to get the call to sit on the bench while Koyie Hill plays 1b?

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:17pm

Koyie Hill saved us dude!

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:19pm

I'm not sure that Koyie Hill would be any good at 1b. He would make the infielders throw so much harder that not even the mighty Koyie Hill would be able to handle the throws!

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:30pm

But Koyie would win the gold glove simply for playing 1b with a catchers mitt.

Submitted by Ryno
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:54pm

-removed-

:) Nevahmind.

Submitted by jacos
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:27pm

"probably more value at the moment in saving the $5.5M or so he's owed"

Put it towards the Big Z Go Away Fund.

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:28pm

Just save it for future payroll in general. MLB trade rumors is saying Cubs will still owe deferred money. Not sure how that works?

Submitted by The E-Man
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:35pm

Need the final word from AZ PHIL.

What say ye PHIL?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:36pm

i asked in the comments. Doesn't make sense to me, but I could be wrong.

If they let him go through waivers, my understanding is they take over responsibility of the contract.

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:36pm

That was always my understanding as well.

Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:37pm

Submitted by Dr. aaron b on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 12:28pm.
Just save it for future payroll in general. MLB trade rumors is saying Cubs will still owe deferred money. Not sure how that works?

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DR AARON B: I'm pretty sure that a club that claims a player off waivers is not responsible for deferred money owed to that player. So the Cubs would only save about $1M if they do not withdraw the waivers.

My guess is that the Cubs are not much concerned about saving money, and will want a player or players back if they trade Pena.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 1:47pm

some more on Epstein to Cubs talk

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/...

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:04pm

I love this line:

It's equally hard to imagine the Cubs, hapless as they are, waiting another two months to make their moves.

Good thing it is clear that they have actually no clue about what they are talking about in terms of what the Cubs are thinking, considering that Ricketts has explicitly said that it is likely that they will wait until after the season ends.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:03pm

nice read on Pujols vs. Fielder

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/1...

sketchy evidence points that Pujols is probably the better going forward, but both are quite risky

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:25pm

At least there was some method to the madness with the Pujols comps... Dave Paker,
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=dave+parker&um...
really?

Give me the guy who is four years younger, having a better season, is left handed, and by the way will cost less.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:28pm

think he qualified his Fielder comps best he could, just very few his size that were ever good.

I'd certainly be happy with either one.

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:35pm

I loved watching "The Cobra" when I was a kid. I remember he used to swing a sledgehammer to warm up in the on deck circle.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:04pm

Dave Parker was awesome. And he had a rocket for an arm, to borrow a line from George Costanza's father.

Submitted by jacos
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:25pm

"but both are quite risky"

Shocking news.

Submitted by mannytrillo
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:48pm

Both are risky, only if the Cubs new GM gives them too many years. Soriano wouldn't have been a horrible signing like it has if it was only for 5 years.

Submitted by jacos
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 3:10pm

I'd be suprised if either took less then 7 year contract.

Submitted by mannytrillo
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 3:23pm

I agree. And since this team is not close to competing for 2-3 years, I would pass on both of them. I doubt either would want to come here anyways when they look at our organization.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:20pm

post has been updated, it seems deferred money is prorated over the life of the contract.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:33pm

also, I can't find this now, but I thought the deal was $3M was a signing bonus, $2M over the season and then the $5M deferred bonus. If that is the case, the other team would be on the hook for about $1.1M or so if the signing bonus doesn't count.

I could be misremembering that.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:39pm

It certainly makes it less of a black and white decision, because now you lose a potential 2nd (really third) round pick, save $1.1 and get to see LaHair give it a shot, or keep him and risk offering him arbitration, to try to get that pick. If he accepts and you still sign Fielder, then you're gonna have to cough up some money to trade him to another team.

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:42pm

Arbitration rulings are only partially guaranteed. If he is released by March 15 the Cubs would only be liable for 30 days of severance pay.

San Diego pulled that on Todd Walker a couple of years ago.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 3:23pm

But wasn't that only because the guy they gave his job to beat him out in ST?

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 3:39pm

They were just trying to get the pick if I remember correctly. I think they went out and got Marcus Giles to play 2nd base and told Todd he wouldn't start. Todd took them to arbitration anyway.

I think they shopped him all winter. Then just released him when they couldn't find a trade partner.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:19pm

I recall a few more instances beyond that one since. There's suppose to be some just cause for releasing them like that, but it's been pretty easy to navigate around where it's just a formality at this point.

anyway, another good reason to offer it to him then.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 2:44pm

it is risky, but Cubs should have some wiggle room next year and especially after 2012 that they could take the risk on Pena even if he accepts. It's not like he'd get much more than a $10M payday in arbitration. That being said, Pena doesn't strike me as a guy that would accept to sit on the bench if he knew the Cubs were pursuing someone else and he wasn't wanted or if the Cubs already signed a deal with the Fielder or Pujols.

And if the Cubs don't sign Fielder or Pujols, Pena again is perfectly fine.

Submitted by navigator
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 3:58pm

The deal was $2 mil paid in 2010, $3 mil 2011, $5 mil January 2012.

By my rough calculations, Pena is owed $592,000 for the rest 2011....if it matters.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:17pm

if the signing bonus doesn't apply, then it's about $1.33 the Cubs would save by just letting him go if those numbers are the case

Submitted by navigator
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:01pm

My #'s are from (edit)
Wittenmyers' Blog

http://blogs.suntimes.com/cubs/2010/12/with_k...

Submitted by Jumbo
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:43pm

I thought it was 3 mil in 2010 and 2 mil this year, but that's just from memory. That said, I have an incredible memory for anything not spoken by my wife.

Submitted by dc60124
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 5:35am

Winner.

Submitted by Ryno
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 3:02pm

- removed -

This Pena thing has my head spinning.

Submitted by TJ
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:16pm

I'm OK with Pena being our firstbaseman next year if we seriosly go after Fielder and Pujols and lose. If we do not go after those two and just sign Pena, I am not happy. I also would like to see LaHair given a chance the rest of this year, so let Pena go now. LaHair didn't do horrible in his short stint in Seattle and some guys develop later, i.e., Jim Hickman. Question, who will be the Cubs minor leauge pitcher of the year? Does anyone really deserve it?

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:33pm

"who will be the Cubs minor league pitcher of the year? Does anyone really deserve it?"

Great question. If it's a reliever, Rhoderick or Beliveau, but they were just setup men at Tennessee for Dolis, the closer, who does not deserve the prize.

If it's a 100-inning guy, then three lefties, Kirk, Jokisch or Rusin.

(These numbers are a couple of days old.)

Beliveau (24, day-tenn): 64.2 inn, 41 h, 18 bb, 82 k, 0.91 whip

Rhoderick (22, day-tenn): 63 inn, 41 h, 36 bb, 69 k, 1.24 whip

Kirk (21, peo): 134 inn, 115 h, 29 bb, 109 k, 1.07 whip

Jokisch (21, peo-tenn): 122.2 inn, 114 h, 34 bb, 105 k, 1.21 whip

Rusin (24, tenn-iowa): 112.1 inn, 117 h, 22 bb, 83 k, 1.24 whip

I'm going to say Jokisch, for his age and the double promotion, assuming he finishes strong at Tenn. Second choice Rhoderick, for his age and the fact that he skipped Peoria.

And I appreciate all mentions of Hickman, #28, my old hero!

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:40pm

nice list, Cubs will stick with traditional stats

I'm guessing Jokisch(10-3, 3.08) or Struck (9-6, 3.45 ERA)

in 2006, they gave it to 2 pitchers and no hitter, so I assume they could just decide on 2 Cubs Minor League Players of the Year and skip a pitcher

http://wiklifield.thecubreporter.com/Cubs_Min...

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 6:49pm

Yeah, I was looking for WHIPs below Struck's 1.43 (caused by 10.1 H/9) but I should have looked at his other positives. He's an easy sell with 9 wins, 2 promotions, 100+ strikeouts, age 21. Like you say, him or Jokisch.

Submitted by Jumbo
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:47pm

I think Struck will be the POY

Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 11:48am

Submitted by VirginiaPhil on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:33pm.
"who will be the Cubs minor league pitcher of the year? Does anyone really deserve it?"

=====================================

VA PHIL: Rob Whitenack was well on his way to winning the Cubs Minor League Pitcher of the Year Award until he blew out his elbow, so now it probably will be Eric Jokisch, because Jokisch is the only 10-game winner, and he leads all Cubs minor leaguers in K.

Nick Struck would be #2.

The Cubs don't care about peripherals, so Austin Kirk won't win it because he has won only five games.

And Bryan LaHair will almost certainly be named Cubs Minor League Player of the Year, because the award isn't the Best Prospect Award.

Submitted by jacos
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:16pm

Could be worse.

347 people at Marlins-Reds game this afternoon

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/08/24/th...

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:01pm

That's really bad. I don't really see how hiring Ozzie would put a ton of butts in the seats, they need a team that doesn't change the roster faster than Lady Gaga changes wardrobes.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:05pm

and a roof, which they're getting

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:18pm

To be fair... it was a game that was rescheduled at the very last moment to avoid the hurricane.

But still... pretty awful.

Submitted by Newport
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 10:17pm

Maybe people were busy preparing their houses for a fucking hurricane.

Submitted by soonercub
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:19pm

Heyman, Tweets Yanks claim Pena

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:23pm

Interesting that he made it all the way to the Yankees. That means all NL teams (Arizona?!) passed on him.

Submitted by Rob Richardson
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:28pm

Why would the Yankees want him?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:36pm

improvement over Posada mostly, or at least a good 2nd option...power and patience they like and LH's usually do well there.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:44pm

Wrongway trying to start something

Interesting waiver situation ... #cubs mulling a claim on Gavin Floyd that could could start talks on a multi-player trade w/ #whitesox.

Submitted by jacos
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:47pm

Beat me to it.

Get Danks, not Stink Floyd.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:59pm

unless the multi-player trade sheds a bunch of money off the Cubs book, I would assume a new GM wouldn't be too happy about them making any significant deals right now.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 4:58pm

http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/ya...

Rosenthal's take on Pena to Yankees, says they have until noon CST to get deal done.

Submitted by Arizona Phil
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 11:31am

Submitted by Rob G. on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 3:58pm.
http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/ya...

Rosenthal's take on Pena to Yankees, says they have until noon CST to get deal done.

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ROB G: The window to make a trade for a player claimed off Trade Waivers is 48 hours, unless the 48-hour period overlaps a weekend (Saturday & Sunday are not considered MLB business days), in which case clubs would have 96 hours to make deal.

A player who is placed on waivers remains on waivers for two business days minus one hour (Saturday & Sunday are considered business days only during Spring Training).

The waiver list goes out on eBis at 2 PM (Eastern) every business day, and a waiver claim can be made anytime while a player is on waivers, which is anytime up until 1 PM (Eastern) on the second business day (which would be 47 hours if the player is placed on waivers on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday, or 95 hours if the player is placed on waivers on Thursday or Friday).

When a player is claimed off Trade Waivers, another 48 hours (or 96 hours) is tacked onto the process to allow clubs to work out a trade, with the whole process ending no later than 1 PM (Eastern) on the 4th business day after the player was placed on Trade Waivers.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:08pm

@CarrieMuskat #Cubs Pena may have been claimed but he's not going anywhere.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:13pm

Then what was the point of putting him on waivers? Really, Bush is no better than Hendry.

I also think all this talk about how everyone is OK with Pena returning next year should have a qualification added.

One, he's not worth $10 million per year or anywhere near it. $5 mil on a 1 year deal would be my max.
Two, he's not a clutch hitter. Another reason not to shell out big money and definitely not a multi-year deal.
And three, we're not going to contend next year unless the new GM pulls some rabbits and a herd of leprechauns out of his/her ass. There's no reason to spend big bucks on 1 year free agent deals when the team can't compete.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:19pm

The Cubs should hire Kim Ng as GM just so I can hear my father struggle to pronounce her name for years. :)

Quade is qwade, like suede. "Did you see what qwade did today?" Who? :)

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:28pm

Two, he's not a clutch hitter.

Sigh...

Career slash line: .239/.350/.486 OPS: .836
Career with RISP: .241/.390/.486 OPS: .876
Career, 2 outs, RISP: .208/.388/.435 OPS: .823
Career, late/close: .249/.376/.509 OPS: .885

I don't see "not a clutch hitter."

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:41pm

2011, RISP, .163/.349/.348

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/spl...

Sigh.

And as for his career, are you arguing that a .002 improvement in avg and no improvement in slg makes him a clutch hitter?

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:52pm

You have a sample size issue in 2011.

And as for his career, are you arguing that a .002 improvement in avg and no improvement in slg makes him a clutch hitter?

No... I am arguing that he is not "not clutch."

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:41pm

I see four stats with averages below .250.

He's not an anything hitter.

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:20pm

Someone really has to explain to the Cubs that folks like Pena are not actually under contract for next year.

Just because you trade him doesn't mean you can't have a conversation with the guy and say, "we still want to sign you next year, but this will also help our team next year."

It really isn't very difficult.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:34pm

Miles says about the same as Muskat that Pena isn't likely to get moved since they're on the hook for most of it still anyway.

If they manage a draft pick out of it, fine, otherwise that was kind of pointless.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:19pm

meh...as soon as hendry was gone both aram and dumpster made noise about leaving the organization.

there should be plenty of money and plenty of holes to fill. fun times.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:25pm

I predict the Cubs 1b next year will be Travis Ishikawa.

Hell, someone call Julio Zuleta.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:28pm

i think they'll splash on someone with stupid loot...be it 1st or SP.

they're going to have a lot to spend...unfortunately 2-3 SP, 3rd, RF, and 1st to fill with that money...and supposedly looking a new taker for soriano in LF, though i don't see that happening until/unless they figure out the rest of the lineup.

Submitted by QuietMan
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:59pm

I predict James Loney at 1B for next year.

(after he's non-tendered by the Dodgers)

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:31pm

good trivia question on twitter, although poorly researched

Konerko is the 6th active player with 2000 hits and 400 HR (BR.com and ESPN says he has 393), so he will become the 6th active player soon enough might be better....

Name the other 5...

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:36pm

Chipper
ARod
Vlad
Pujols

I missed the last one, but looked it up.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:43pm

Follow up question, who's the only guy with 600 HR's and not 2000 hits?

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:47pm

what am I missing?

-edit- nevermind.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:49pm

17 homers if you're mark mcgwire.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 5:45pm

no one respects jim thome...he should have done drugs.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 6:34pm

now irrational pissed off conservatives who think they're constantly under attack have taken up "the good fight no one else but them is fighting" at the ballpark...because they're too afraid of their own country to realize what a joke is...again. of course this is going down in texas, rangers fans...and yes, it's over "the wave."

---

"The latest uproar began when new messages about the wave were posted on the ballpark's video board and caught on TV cameras and broadcast across the country.

The messages were in jest, Morgan said, warning that doing the wave could throw out a rotator cuff or result in children being sold to the circus.

But some fans and viewers were outraged, and even accused the Rangers of trying to trample wavers' constitutional right of free expression."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/24/us-...

it's very hard being middle class and white these days. ah, 1st world problems and the constitution being trampled every single day by everyone but the victims...omfg help.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:20pm

Goddamn crackers.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:23pm

muuuuuuuuuuh freedom!!! halp!

brb, going to a private blog to complain about the government and how it's being worse than Hitler.

"we need to learn history from the past or we're domed to repeat it!" - thomas jefferson

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:00pm

"You got a perty mouth" - Thomas Jefferson.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 6:37pm

h.bell (SD) on twitter says he's not traded...fwiw.

also, wtf is OAK doing with all those FA types and holding onto them? they only traded zeigler that i know of.

i think the real market for all these players on teams who could be sellers might be extremely more depressed than fans give it credit for.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 6:57pm

...and wandy pulled off waivers by HOU

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 6:38pm

Campana batting 7th, isn't that the worst place to hit a SB threat?

he takes second, it's a guaranteed IBB to the 8th hitter.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 6:45pm

quade marches out some weird lineups. people joked about dusty and lou, but there was a method behind their construction (especially dusty's even if people didn't want to believe it...it was shockingly simple).

quade usually learns a lesson about where guys should be, but it takes him a while to do it.

...and of course soto is 8th and t.kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkolvin hitting 5th.

before people get upset over "kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkolvin"...tyler groundsoutweaklyafteracrapswingovlin doesn't have a good ring to it.

Submitted by John Beasley
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:56pm

Dusty-Ball

Fastest guy
Middle infielder
HR guy
HR guy, lower avg
HR guy, lower avg
HR guy, lower avg
This guy is also in the lineup
Catcher
Pitcher

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:02pm

speed leads, contact 2nd, power (usually in some L/R combo), the rest...

dusty let m.barrett/d.miller hit elsewhere besides 8th...mixed them up in the lineup over the years.

Submitted by dcf
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 10:03pm

C-Pat
Neifi
Neifi
Neifi
Neifi
Neifi
Neifi
Catcher
Pitcher

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:25pm

it's only 2 innings, but wells has his changeup tonight...nasty.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:31pm

...and soriano has his HR stroke...

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:31pm

from heyman

hearing rick hahn and josh byrnes for cubs gm job. cashman/beane/epstein long shots to go, friedman not 2 likely either

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:34pm

i dont want j.byrnes because i don't want to hear from the complaining masses over the pencil pusher's reputation.

i'm not a fan, myself...but i just don't wanna hear all the complaints.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:32pm

2 HR's in 2 nights for Soriano, now's the time to trade him :)

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:38pm

campamanpanpanpnana is fast. yup.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:50pm

lol...soto had to call time cuz castro was out of position with the pitcher ready to go. he was talking to aram and grooming a hole in the left side of the infield. no biggie...just a little "doh."

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 7:59pm

Feels like a McNutt

5 IP, 1 ER, 5 H, 2 K, 0 BB so far

Rusin going for AAA, 2 scoreless so far

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:00pm

hehe

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/8/24/2382409/sta...

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:03pm

wow..nice.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:21pm

Jae Hoon Ha flashes the range tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCQF4EbYAtU&fe...

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:36pm

starting to feel bad for colvin...he looked really dejected after his last out of the last inning. freeman was playing the line and colvin lined hard out for a double play (really hard hit, aram running from 1st).

he not only has had a horrible MLB season, his assignment to AAA to work things out went like crap, too.

that's a guy that's ready for a hot september to go home on...or 2012 spring to get here already.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 8:38pm

former oriole...mike flanagan found dead. too young, 59.

Submitted by crunch
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 3:29am

gwaaah...damn.

reportedly, he took his own life and he noted being "despondent over what he considered a false perception from a community he loved of his role in the team's prolonged failure." bleh.

jim palmer was VERY emotional talking about him on MASN.

Submitted by Tito
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 11:25am

Brenly called him the funniest teammate he ever had.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:01pm

Sounds like clinical depression to me. Meds can help in cases like this. Senseless...

Submitted by The Joe
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 10:35pm

I'm on meds and I still imagine jumping whenever I look out of a tall building. Meds aren't a cure-all.

Submitted by Paul Noce
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:09pm

Wasn't he part of that two headed GM situation Baltimore had for a while? That was strange.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:06pm

chip caray singing the 7th...got a good pop/welcome from the crowd.

enthusiastic...wearing the fake harry glasses..."root root root for the bravos"...good ovation from the fans when finished..."we love you ron santo, we miss you"

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 9:47pm

r.wells continues his "decent" second half for an end-rotation starter.

hope he continues...hope he finds a few more mph to his fastball, too...been sitting at 90-92 a lot recently rather than touching 93/94...oh well, as long as his changeup stays sharp.

Submitted by VirginiaPhil
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 10:08pm

LaHair!

35 & 36.

I think I read that 37 will tie I-Cub record.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 10:18pm

day-yam...and he's got about 2 weeks to do it...should get it done.

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 10:47pm

c.pena pulled off waivers

Submitted by crunch
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 11:14pm

im starting to wonder if cj wilson is the cubs #1 offseason target at this point...rather than pujols/fielder.

i understand the pros/cons of keeping/dealing pena, but there's a lot of noise about pena being in the 2012 plans.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Wed, 08/24/2011 - 11:14pm

Thank God!

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:13am

dear old Ramirez is 1st in BA, SLG and OPS for all 3bmen that qualify, 3rd in OBP

but what a terrible influence

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 6:57am

dear old Ramirez is 1st in BA, SLG and OPS for all 3bmen that qualify, 3rd in OBP

But a "B" free agent. Sigh...

I get that the ratings factor in the last two years, but that system is broken.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 8:48am

Come on, man, he's no Placido Polanco.

Submitted by Dusty Baylor
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 9:29am

Ok....and please feel free to remind me that I'm just bitching to bitch....BUT:
Justin Sellers is playing a little SS for the Dodgers, only 12 games so far, and only putting up .267/.327/.422...0 errors

This is a guy the Cubs couldn't even deem worthy of a look 2 years ago? Seriously? So they traded Michael Wuertz for...a guy who's out of baseball, and a guy who is getting a cuppa coffee with the Dodgers.

Submitted by big_lowitzki
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 9:40am

You're just bitching to bitch.

When the Cubs sold him he had never had on OPS over 728, and hadn't shown any power. They also had SS's in their system that they liked more (Castro, Lake).

Also... while his minors numbers do look good over the lat two seasons, you are still looking at just 12 major league games.

Submitted by Dusty Baylor
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 9:48am

True....but giving away a decent reliever, at least in 2009, for absolutely nothing? I guess that's more my....hmm...conniption point? Wuertz was decent with the Cubs, and really good in 2009 with the A's..and we got a broken bat, and a bag of balls that we didn't even take out of the box before giving away.

Now I'll bitch about not getting Campana more playing time

=)

Submitted by Dr. aaron b
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 10:19am

I was more pissed that they dumped Mike Wuertz without even taking him to Spring training to see what he had. If all you were getting was 2 PTBNL's. What was the harm in letting him fight for a job?

I just hope the next GM is better than the last several.

Submitted by Dusty Baylor
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 10:27am

agreed! Hey we got Richie Robnett!!!...Er...who?

Submitted by Jumbo
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 11:25am

I think Lou didn't like him. If Lou doesn't like you, get the fuck out! Whereas, if Dusty loves you, get the fuck out!

Submitted by Mike Wellman
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 10:45am

i-cubs in midst of 9 game series w/ okey city; first 4 were @ home; now playing 5 on road...la hair had 4 doubles [of the team's record-tying 10]night before #'s 35 &36...story problem for the sabremetricians: when was last time league leader in hits neither scored a hundred nor finished in top 10 in BA?

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 11:34am

Castro's 12th in BA and on a pace to score 90 runs.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:24pm

How quickly they forget. Juanderful Pierre lead the league in hits in 2006, and managed to score 87 runs, while finishing .029 out of the top 10.

Submitted by Rob G.
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:55pm

i was going to guess Pierre, but was in my car when I read the comment and forgot about it.

Submitted by Mike Wellman
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:59pm

exception that proves the rule? figured you'd come up w/ the answer & yes, forgetting does come easier these days...

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 1:17pm

I tend to think that he'll be in the top 10 in BA when all is said and done. He would have to go nuts, and we would need to find a #2 and #4 hitter for him to get to 100 runs.

Submitted by Tito
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 11:53am

BTW, related to last night's telecast, Selig basically said that extra playoff teams and realignment will happen...just a matter of when.

Submitted by The Real Neal
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 1:18pm

Yuck. They should just do like the NBA and NHL and eliminate the regular season.

Submitted by The E-Man
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 1:25pm

heh

Both of those sports offer too-long, grueling seasons.

I'd like a May-August baseball season.

Of course Houston residents would probably opt for Feb-June.

For all 80 fans that come to the games. Wonder if Marlins v. Houston would set a low attendance record?

Submitted by navigator
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:08pm

: Park Ridge officials want to take down Honorary Jim Hendry Way signs on Northwest Highway, which were authorized in 2009 by former Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

Mayor Dave Schmidt said the request is nothing personal against Hendry, a Park Ridge resident, but the city never wanted the signs mounted in the first place.

Submitted by Mike Wellman
on Thu, 08/25/2011 - 1:00pm

like the tweet...maybe he'll opt for la-la!

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