Game 161 Thread / Cubs @ Brewers (3 of 3)

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SP Angel Guzman SP *C.C. Sabathia
0-0, 7.04, 6 K, 4 BB, 7.2 IP (NL)
10-2, 1.78, 121 K, 24 BB, 121.2 IP
LF Alfonso Soirano CF Mike Cameron
SS Ryan Theriot 2B #Ray Durham
1B Derrek Lee LF Ryan Braun
3B Aramis Ramirez 1B *Prince Fielder
CF Reed Johnson SS J.J. Hardy
RF *Micah Hoffpauir RF Corey Hart
2B Ronny Cedeno 3B *Craig Counsell
C Henry Blanco C Jason Kendall
P Angel Guzman P *C.C. Sabathia


First, Paul Sullivan writes that despite his recent travails (5.40 ERA in September), Jeff Samardzija has made the post-season roster and that Chad Gaudin will likely be a spectator.

As for today's game, Mark DeRosa (calf strain) was hoping to get in a few swings so he
didn't have to go into the playoffs cold. Alas, he is not in the starting
lineup. Geovany Soto (sore hand) is also sitting.

The Brewers begin play tied with the Mutts for the Wild Card, with a one-game tiebreaker tomorrow at Shea in the teams' futures if things don't get settled today. (As I post this, the Marlins and Mets are waiting out a rain delay at Shea.)


"It's not going to matter because, well, it is going to matter but it's not going to matter,"

Translated into English, it means that Lou Piniella decided that Carlos Zambrano would not pitch the first inning or two of today's regular season finale at Milwaukee and Angel Guzman will.

Translated into Sullivanese...

...what Piniella was trying to say was that whoever his starter was, he
was only planning on pitching him an inning or two anyway, having
decided already that Sunday will be a "bullpen day" when almost
everyone on the playoff roster will get one final chance to throw
before Game 1 on Wednesday. Guzman makes his eighth career start as a Cub, his first since in 2007.


(According to, Zambrano, the scheduled Game 2 starter in the NLDS, would actually prefer "to throw on the side Sunday, then have a bullpen session Monday at Wrigley Field.")

Soon-to-be free agent Sabathia makes his 17th and most likely last regular season start as a Brewer. Though his NL numbers are sparkling, and the Brewers wouldn't even be within sniffing distance of a post-season spot within him, Sabathia has been entirely mortal in his two starts against the Cubs: 13.2 IP, 18 H, and 7 ER, plus a loss and an ND.

Guzman has appeared in five games for the Cubs, all losses. One of the appearances was against the Brewers at Wrigley,in which he hit Ryan Braun before yielding consecutive hits to Fielder (single), Hardy (double), and Hart (single).



Home Run Howry strikes again. Please please assure me that Howry will come nowhere near any type of crucial game the Cubs play in the playoffs unless its past the 14th inning? Can I at least ask that? Thanks.

4-2 Marlins in the top of the 9th, Wsux win, twinkies up 4-0 in the 7th

At least we might get 1 extra game of White Sox vs Tigers...I'll take it I guess going to take a nice comeback from the Mets to force a playoff with the Brewers.

Wow, am I happy about this loss. CC getting worn down, LA probably our first round opponent, Howry probably out of work in all but the most ridiculous blowout in the playoffs.

You would think thats the case but I'm still worried about Lou, over and over and over again he has went to Howry as a chance to 'get him right' hopefully that won't be the case in the playoffs. Bob might have pitched his last game as a Cub today.

Mets lose! 2 years in a row lose to the Marlins on the last day of the season to miss the playoffs, thats gotta hurt.

guess Santana doesn't have to worry about going on three days rest now.

He likes Howry because he doesn't make excuses or some crap. It will certainly be a salve to our wounds when he loses us the World Series and then doesn't make an excuse for it. That will make everything better.

Lou put Howry in to pad his statistics, clearly. He just wanted to make sure the guy got a chance to cough up another home run and take another loss, and Bob didn't disappoint.

Hey, remember that time, a couple years ago, when Howry was good? Yeah. That was awesome.

I feel for the guy. Seems very hard working. But he just hasn't gotten it done this year and there is little reason to believe he would be any more effective pitching in October than in the previous six months.

Who's on the 11 man pitching staff now?

Dempster, Harden, Zambrano, Lilly, Marquis, Marmol, Wood, Cotts, Marshall, Samardzija, and one of Gaudin/Wuertz/Howry/Guzman. For what it's worth, of those final 4 Wuertz has the lowest ERA.

If we were to base it on Lou's post-clinch auditions, then Wuertz would get the callback.

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  • Hah which reminds me this is a good article about Ross:

  • Gordo tweeted:

    "I'm pretty comfortable moving all over. I like it that way, too. It keeps me on my toes and ready each and every game.”--Bryant last week.

    So it could be he's just saying the right things, but I believe him.

  • Which means if you shut this place down, and the Cubs go back to their old ways, we will all have to hunt you down, kidnap you, and strap you to a chair to listen to Tim McCarver and Joe Buck repeatedly, with dollops of Hawk Harrelson thrown in for good measure.

  • You got a problem with David Ross?

  • La Stella (3B) batting fifth. Could be the La Stella game.

  • [Drafts plans for CTSteve idol.]

  • Pitcher batting 9th. Bryant in left, Schwarber in right.

  • i'm not ready for it to end.

    i'm not ready for "well, they weren't supposed to make it this year..."

    i'm not ready to talk about the off-season yet.

  • I can relate to that, E-Man. I don't think I'll enjoy watching a high-stakes away game like this on TV. I've watched a lot of games this season after they ended or at least after the Cubs got out to a decent lead. Since they usually win, I've gotten to see a lot of baseball.

    But in this case I think we should probably all watch the game live, and not let the pressure exceed the pleasure.

  • Remember, as I told my wife when our kids went off to college -- this is a good thing! Enjoy it!

  • Fully agree -- can't prove it. But, the numbers are what they are, and a lot of his OF games have come in Aug & Sept, when he has been killing the ball otherwise. And, knowing how baseball players love routine, it seems logical that it could at least be a a factor.

    Really, really, really hope I'm wrong on this.

  • Indeed! It has been absolute blast -- from getting swept by the Phillies to sweeping the Giants, I have always enjoyed being part of this group. Hope we have a lot more games to talk about this year.

  • Yes, cheers to me! I've noticed a fairly strong correlation between my tenure and Cubbie victories. 

    And thanks to Michael for our new diggs--and to y'all for sticking around! 

  • CHEERS to CT Steve for keeping this alive in 2015. Who would have thought that the season would have been so successful to this point? Thank you CT STEVE!

    I think I may be too nervous to watch the entire game. I will probably watch in bits and pieces - and constantly check MLB App. I will be like Blockhead: Nervous Nellie.

  • You can't prove the performance is because he played the OF. You just can't. Sorry.

    BTW, Bryant hit .168 in July playing 3B exclusively.

  • oh man, early on it seems like he made at least 1 stupid baserunning blunder per game and almost every single one turned into a positive for the cubs. it was magical.