Giants Are Mean to Cub Teenagers

The Giants combined two doubles, three singles, five walks, and an error to score seven runs in the first two innings, cruising to a 7-1 victory over the Cubs in AZ Instructional League action this afternoon at Indian School Park Field #2 in Scottsdale.  



LHP Christopher Pieters (signed as a 16-year old out of Curacao during the 2011 International Signing Period for a reported $350K) got the start for the Cubs, and could not throw strikes (33 pitches – only 11 strikes), allowing three runs on three walks and two hits (a single and a double) in the 1st inning.


RHP Alexander Santana (signed as a 16-year old out of the Dominican Republic in 2010) wasn’t any better in the 2nd inning, allowing four runs (three earned) on three hits (two singles and a double) and two walks while throwing 34 pitches (only 16 strikes).


The other four Cub pitchers who took the hill today fared much better, throwing six innings of three-hit shutout ball with no walks and six strikeouts, but by that time the Giants had what proved to be an insurmountable lead.


The Cubs offense was mostly dormant, scoring their only run in the top of the 4th inning without the benefit of a hit.


Rubi Silva drew a lead-off walk and moved up to 2nd base when Dan Vogelbach reached base on a error, advanced to 3rd on a double play, and then scored on a Wild Pitch.


The Cubs are missing a number of players who started the AZIL schedule on the Active List, as 2011 1st round draft pick SS Javier Baez, 1B Rock Shoulders, OF Taiwan Easterling, 3B-1B Dustin Geiger, and C Rafael Lopez are out of action.


Easterling, Geiger, and Lopez suffered injuries (either groin, quad, hamstring, or calf) while running the bases and/or sliding last week, Shoulder suffered a torn meniscus in a base-running drill two days prior to AZIL Opening Day, and Baez has been shut-down with a sore arm for more than a week (exact nature and extent of his injury is unknown at this time).


Here is the abridged box score (Cubs players only):


LINEUP:
1. Zeke DeVoss, 2B: 0-4 (6-3, K, 5-3, K)
2a. Danny Lockhart, SS: 0-2 (6-3, 4-3, BB)
2b. Carlos Penalver, SS: 0-1 (F-7)
3. Rubi Silva, DH #1: 0-3 (K, BB, 4-3, K, R)
4. Dan Volgelbach, 1B: 1-4 (F-8, E-3, F-8, 2B)
5. Jeimer Candelario, 3B: 0-3 (6-3, 1-6-3 DP, P-2, BB)
6. Yaniel Cabezas, DH #2: 2-3 (1B, F-7, 1B, BB)
7a. Mark Malave, C: 0-1 (BB, E-4)
7b. Micah Gibbs, C: 0-1 (F-7)
8. Shawon Dunston, Jr, LF: 0-3 (F-7, L-3 DP, P-5)
9a. Jeffrey Baez, CF: 0-2 (5-3, P-2)
9b. Trey Martin, CF: 0-1 (F-9)
10. Garrett Schlecht, RF: 2-3 (1B, 4-3, 1B)


PITCHERS:
1. Christopher Pieters: 1.0 IP, 2 H, 3 R (3 ER), 3 BB, 0 K, 33 pitches (11 strikes), 1/2 GO/FO
2. Alexander Santana: 1.0, 3 H, 4 R (3 ER), 2 BB, 1 K, 34 pitches (16 strikes), 1/1 GO/FO
3. Starling Peralta: 2.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 1 WP, 39 pitches (25 strikes), 0/5 GO/FO
4. Tayler Scott: 1.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 1 GIDP, 10 pitches (9 strikes), 3/1 GO/FO
5. Jose Arias: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 16 pitches (10 strikes), 0/1 GO/FO
6. Andrew McKirahan: 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 8 pitches (5 strikes), 1/1 GO/FO


ERRORS: 1
SS Danny Lockhart - E-6 (throwing error allowed batter to reach base safely – eventually scored unearned run)


CATCHERS DEFENSE
Mark Malave: 0-2 CS


ATTENDANCE: 31


WEATHER: Sunny with temperatures in the 80’s

Comments

Kyler Burke seems to have some potential on the mound. Do the Cubs have to make a decision on adding him to the 40 man roster this offseason? What direction do you think they take going forward with him? Awesome stuff thanks AziPhil.

Submitted by The Stick on Mon, 10/10/2011 - 8:23pm.
Kyler Burke seems to have some potential on the mound. Do the Cubs have to make a decision on adding him to the 40 man roster this offseason? What direction do you think they take going forward with him? Awesome stuff thanks AziPhil.

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THE STICK: Kyler Burke has been very impressive as a pitcher. He throws a 94 MPH fastball, a plus-curve, a change-up, and he is also now throwing a hard slider (a work in progress). I haven't thought about it a lot, but I might rate him a Cubs Top 20 prospect (as a pitcher) right now.

Burke is eligible for selection in the Rule 5 Draft this year (December 2011), and he can be a Rule 55 Minor League Free-Agent ("Six-Year Minor League Free-Agent") after next season if he is not added to the Cubs 40-man roster by the 4th day following the conclusion of the 2012 World Series.

I think the Cubs will probably take the chance that since he hasn't pitched above Boise he probably won't get selected in this year's Rule 5 Draft, but I doubt that they will allow him to walk away as a free-agent post-2012. So as long as he doesn't suffer some career-threatening injury in the meantime, I would expect him to be added to the 40-man roster post-2012 to keep him from being a minor league free-agent.

I think if the Cubs really think Burke can be a starter, they should probably take the risk of adding him to the 40 man. There's still a lot of flotsam on there.

Would be cool if we had a GM to make these decisions.

dude says the writing is on the wall for Theo to leave Red Sox

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/...

Interesting that they're deflecting some responsibility for the bad FA signings. I wonder how much of that is real and how much is them trying to build Theo's trade value.

Jackson hit .400 (10-for-25) with HR 2 2b 6r 3rbi 3bb sb. Beliveau 2g - 3ip 2h 0r 1bb 6k. Australia & Venezuela also advanced.

The stats page I'm looking at has Jackson at 10 for 26 (.385) with no SBs.

came from Peoria Chiefs tweet...quick look at the boxscores don't show a Jackson SB, so I'm sure yours is right.

plays Cuba tonight at 8:30 EST

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/i...

Red Sox allegedly putting manager search on hold until Epstein issue resolves itself.

Oh fun. Hopefully this is resolved soon.

on Cubs spring training facility

http://www.mesaaz.gov/bettermesa/cubs.aspx

Allegedly White Sox conisdered Konerko as player/manager before hiring Ventura.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/708...

Does KW get a bonus for making odd decisions?

Cubs RHP Dillon Maples 89-92 today in instructs with poor command.

from Olney
Current list of Baltimore GM candidates: Thad Levine, Josh Byrnes, J.P. Ricciardi, Tony LaCava, Gerry Hunsicker, Dan Jennings, maybe more.

from Will Carroll
Hearing one org is close to a decision on their GM, hope to name by the LCS/WS gap.

and Arte says not necessarily looking for a GM with past experience, does imply that he's starting to listen to the analytical voices in the organization and could be part of the purge.

http://www.ocregister.com/sports/moreno-32132...

Not a shock at all, really. It was only his 2nd appearance in instructs and I would wager that the Cubs are making some fairly substantial changes to his delivery. This usually causes an initial drop in velocity as the player adjusts and retrains his muscles. I just want him healthy and with a reworked delivery next spring.

Reply fail to Rob G.'s blurb about Maples.

You should be able to edit your comments unless someone replies to it.

I don't think you can move them, which is what he would have needed to do.

he could have copied it, deleted the old one I believe and replied correctly.

also, not a big deal at all.

He could have edited his original comment rather than replying to it. Not a big deal, just trying to be helpful.

Nice thing about the slow-paced Epstein affair, you get to read around a little bit. I'm beginning to like this guy Nick Cafardo from the Boston Globe. Funny little piece today, allegedly originating from a Starbucks near Wrigley.

Cafardo also wrote this interesting longer article two days ago, which included, among other nuggets, an unsolicited testimonial by Omar Minaya for Ryne Sandberg.

some team's fans get to be excited about people who play the game...we're in offseason 3-in-a-row of suit hunt. awesome.

managers, hitting/pitching coaches, and GMs...oh my...which is going to fix the cubs this season?

i think the team needs a new traveling secretary...then the wins will roll in.

it'll be nice to be excited about something besides garza one day...maybe this offseason...maybe.

well, kerry wood for cheap was pretty cool...but like marlon byrd coming relatively cheap, role players only fill roles...they don't carry, they support.

George Costanza might be available.

george costanza might also be an improvement.

expected to be announced in 24-48 hours

http://bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_s...

Hell. Yes!

I just hope we're not losing anyone too valuable as compensation.

same...otherwise, sweet.

rickets hiring someone that isn't going to let "the rickets family" run the team's roster/moves is #1 on my priority list. theo doesn't seem to be the hired lapdog type.

article says that's part of the hold up but should be resolved soon

Just wondering, who do you think would be fair compensation for Epstein? I have no idea how these things are done.

hopefully, not carpenter, b.jackson, or cashner...or r.wells...

hell, i'd rather mcnutty than any of those 4, even if mcnutty projects higher than r.wells...i just feel the cubs actually need r.wells. i could understand putting mcnutt in the list of "hope he doesn't go" though.

wouldn't like to see vitters or golden go, but i'd consider it a lesser of many evils...

it'd be nice if it's even less than any of these options.

Has a GM ever been traded for a player? I think it's borderline crazy to trade ANYONE for a GM, let alone some actual talent.

fun part is Epstein gets to trade for himself...

agreed...i hope it doesn't cost much, but people are predicting it could hurt.

no idea how to handicap the situation, but managers have been traded in the past for decent prospects and mlb-ready young talent.

And for MLB players... it will be precedent setting if it does happen.

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  • Maybe it's to get him some game action. He's only pitched for the Cubs once in the last 10 days. I don't really care much about him going down since he's sucked when up here.

    I really want Rivero to be called up.

    chitownmvp01 2 min 3 sec ago view
  • CHITOWNMVP01: It is indeed odd that the Cubs did not just wait one more day to recall LaStella.

    As far as Spencer Patton is concerned...

    Arizona Phil 10 min 42 sec ago view
  • Why didn't they wait until tomorrow to call up TLS? Don't they have to wait 10 days to bring Patton back up now?

    chitownmvp01 31 min 42 sec ago view
  • Cubs assigned to Mesa Solar Sox (AFL):

    Victor Caratini, C
    James Farris, RHRP
    Ian Happ, 2B-OF
    Eloy Jimenez, OF
    Ryan McNeil, RHRP
    Steve Perakslis, RHRP
    Duane Underwood Jr, RHSP

    Brian Lawrence, Pitching Coach

    Jimenez, Happ, Caratini and Underwood are among the Cubs Top 10 Prospects, and playing in the AFL should help speed their development.

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 5 min ago view
  • Outstanding.

    Jackstraw 1 hour 18 min ago view
  • So presuming he remains on the MLB Active List for the balance of the MLB regular season, Tommy LaStella will be at 2+102 MLB Service Time at the end of the season, far short of what he would have needed to accrue to have a chance at "Super Two" status post-2016. (Even if he had remained on the MLB Active List for the entire season and finished at 2+124 MLB Service Time, he still would have only been "on the bubble" for possible "Super Two" status post-2016).

    Arizona Phil 1 hour 53 min ago view
  • I don't know about the defensive part of the equation, the fact all the Cubs pitchers are so ahead of their FIP makes me think it's a lot more defense than anything special Hendricks is doing.

    Rob G. 1 hour 57 min ago view
  • Thanks, jacos! I love a good Alice Cooper group performance video -- especially when it corresponds with a shrinking, division-clinching magic number!

    JoePepitone 1 hour 57 min ago view
  • TLS up and playing second today. Spencer Patton to Iowa to make room.

    Rob Richardson 2 hours 31 min ago view
  • Yeah that article describes what I said in my other post about WAR. BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is a better predictor of future performance.

    I also get what you mean by FIP being independent of luck but my point is all the soft contact Hendricks gives up negates a lot of that luck and defense aspect. In other words I believe he could pitch in front of any defense and have similar #s because for the most part he isn't giving up the screaming liners or hard hit liners to the gap.

    johann 2 hours 35 min ago view
  • Down on the farm:

    "Dealin'" Cease with another good outing for Eugene. Last 4 outings: 16IP, 1ER 29K. But, 10BB. Throw strikes, kid.

    Candelario is killing it at Iowa after struggling at AA: .320/.406/.941 in 241AB. At age 22. Where the heck to put him next year?

    billybucks 3 hours 38 min ago view
  • SF now only 1 game ahead of the Cards for home field in the WC game.

    billybucks 3 hours 49 min ago view
  • For a start:

    "lets" should be "let's".

    billybucks 3 hours 50 min ago view
  • FYI: Here's a good link explaining the differences in pitching WAR between Fangraphs and Basebell Reference.

    http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2012/8/28/3273844/which-war-works-best-pitc...

    Rob G. 4 hours 40 min ago view
  • ERA is just FIP with defense and luck. That being said if Hendricks gets his ERA under 2.00, he may have a legit shot.

    That all being said I was looking at Fangraphs WAR and I should have been looking at Basebell Reference WAR because more voters use that. My bad and happy to admit my mistake unlike some people around here that shall not be named (just kidding CRUNCH, CRUNCH, CRUNCH!)

    Rob G. 4 hours 44 min ago view
  • Yes. That is something up with which we will not put.

    fullykräusened 5 hours 54 min ago view