Cubs Go Solar

This all seems still seems a little less than 100%, but there was a report early in the evening from the Tribune and Dave van Dyck saying the Cubs are "expected" to sign Cuban outfielder Jorge Soler according to "multiple reports" from the Dominican (it's more fun if you read that with air quote hand gestures).  The folks at Cub Hub seemed to have heard from the Score confirming the deal. Kevin Goldstein has no reason not to believe the reports, saying Soler's agent made similar agreements with other players he's represented before they offiicially became available to sign. Soler of course has yet to complete the legal gymnastics that Cespedes had to go through, so any confirmation from the Cubs is probably not going to come anytime in the near future. One report is suggesting a 3-4 year deal in the $27.5M range. The difference in that deal to Cespedes is that Soler would not get the clause in his contract where the club would not offer arbitration or auto-renew him once the deal is completed, meaning he'd be under the Cubs control for 6 full years of major league service time which doesn't start until he makes his major league debut. Once the initial contract runs out, he'd either sign a new one or just default to either pre-arbitration or arbitration depending on where he's at with his service time, similar to what Jeff Samardzija is going through right now.

Presuming it's all true, the Cubs added two blue chip prospects to their stable of minor leaguers this offseason. Most agree that Soler would easily be a top 5 pick in the draft. He plays center now, but most think he'll outgrow the position and will end up in right field. He's got a plus arm and good speed so it doesn't sound like defense will be much of an issue. Soler stands at 6-3" and 205 pounds at the moment  and BA compared him favorably to recent Royals draft pick Bubba Starling saying Soler has "explosive bat speed and power potential" with "five-tool potential".

Goldstein said he'd jump to #1 on his Cubs prospect list, Keith Law would put him second behind Brett Jackson. Goldstein earlier said he'd be around #38/#39 on his top 101 of major league prospects.

And for what it's worth, it's allegedly pronounced So-Lair, but that's not so good for the puns and renewable power jokes.

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no mlb contract...woo.

lot of loot and faith in investment, though.

Seems like a very fair deal especially considering future spending caps. I'm happy.

Seems the Cubs have addressed the lack of power in the system-- in the past year they've added/will add Soler, Rizzo, Vogelbach, Shoulders, and Baez. What legit power prospects did they have before that? Golden? Vitters?

Rebel Ridling? Michael Burgess? Not much, obviously.

Brooks Kieschnick? Earl Cunningham? Ryan Harvey?
Lol..

I heard Brooks Kieschnick on the radio the other day saying, "This is lifetime Longhorn Brooks Kieschnick and you're listening to ..." whatever the hell the sports radio station is out here in the Austin area.

I never understood the handling of Kieschnick...he hits .295/.370/.495 in AAA in 1995...he gets 100 PA's in 1997...and that's it? From your #1 draft pick?
Ugh.

Did he break Japanese records too??

Oh wait...

Can Soler pitch ?

"Golden? Vitters?"

At 23, Richard Jones was a little old for the Midwest League, but he was the second-best slugger (.538 SLG, .900 OPS) in the Cub minors, after LaHair.

Theo has done more in the last few months to strengthen the farm system than all the years of McPhail and Hendry combined. Finally someone gets it in the front office.

That and I believe they are much better talent evaluators than anyone else before them.

Agreed. The combination of little hope for this season but enormous hope for the future is something I haven't experienced since the players Dallas Green drafted were moving through the system.

Of course, at that point, Green was already gone and Jim Frey was going about a destruction of the farm system from which it has never fully recovered.

I concur. Little by little, the farm system is being resurrected and they are clearly going to continue acquiring young talent which will give us a perennial playoff contender.

That and I believe they are much better talent evaluators than anyone else before them.

Although that's a little like saying vacations are more pleasant in California than in Antarctica. I have to give Ricketts a little credit here. When he bought the team he emphasized building the team from the ground up. You hear that a lot, so skepticism was understandable. Then, last off season, he dumped all kinds of coin on the draft, even spending wads of money on Dillon Maples, who I guess everyone else thought was unsignable. Then he hired The TheoCorp, who do seem much better at player evaluation than Hendry was, especially with position players (Hendry was actually pretty good with pitching). Now, he's given the go ahead to TheoCorp to spend heavily on Soler, which is good because the window for that kind of activity is closing fast.

He hasn't made a big splash in free agency, but I pretty much felt decade long contracts to first basemen isn't a very good idea, so I don't blame him there, and other than those two, there really isn't much out there that I'm thinking, "damn, I wish they'd sign that guy".

This is all good stuff. I doubt Soler will make his way to Triple A right away but I hope he does, since I live near Round Rock in Texas and they'll be playing the Iowa Cubs at home a few times this year.

you watch him vs. the i-cubs there O&B; i'll check him out vs. the express here (IF they ever actually sign him)!

I know it is easy to just bag on Hendry, but this isn't a true statement. Look at some of the early 2000 top 100 lists. They have a bunch of Cubs on them. There were 6 in 2001 and 7 in 2002 and 5 in 2003 and 6 in 2004. Where you really saw a decline is after Hendry became GM. After his drafted and signed guys were gone and stockilledthesystem took over.

I was probably more excited about Green's minor leaguers than those of the early 2000s because I saw a lot of them play in Peoria and Iowa. Also, overall, they were just better players.

Okay, I guess I am happy with this outcome. Now what? Anyone see anything else happening before the last couple weeks of spring training?

I'm keeping my eye on Byrd and Soriano. Given any chance to unload these guys before Opening Day, I think they will take what they can get. I also think they will extend Garza, which will make him easier to trade and more valuable at the Deadline.

Soriano is to the Cubs what MySpace.com was to News Corporation before they sold it to Justin Timberlake for pennies on the dollar.

Well played

Cubs still need to sign Soler. It's not a guarantee by any means that they have him.

White Sox finally got Fukudome...

Then I will not throw out my Chunichi Fuke jersey.

Hahaha

Brewers missed out. Figured with Braun suspension looming that Mr. April would be the perfect fit there.

Do the White Sox have any Japanese players on the big club any longer?

Tad Iguchi and Shingo Takatsu.

Haha. Two guys that helped them get a ring in 2005. Although, Takatsu didn't last too long.

There's going to be a two foot deep gulch in lh batters box this summer w fuku and Donn spinning in there.

Levine on Espn

Jackson & Rizzo could be up in June
Theo comp prospect and cash, no one big

Garza- if yanks, BoSox, angels lose pitcher to injury in ST cubs would want big package . Otherwise 5/65 like Danks

Levine's right. Jackson and Rizzo could be up in June. Or they could be up sooner. Or later. Barring any situations arising which don't allow them to be up in June. Or sooner. Or later.

HAHA!

Well played.

Bruce would approve. Perhaps.

But maybe not.

Probably.

What was the final outcome of Blake DeWitt? Is he a FA now?

likely no one put a waiver claim in (believe AZ Phil said they have 3 days to do so). From there, they have 10 days total to decide on outrighting him or releasing him. Considering DeWitt probably wants to keep his $1.1M, he'll probably accept the outright.

Now twitter is all aflutter about Soler not being close to being a done deal. The Tribune is getting really good at pushing out scoops before they happen. I'm beginning to trust it like I trust the National Enquirer.

fwiw, there's no way Cubs can confirm it at this point and that means any MLB sources can't confirm either since no paperwork has been filed.

that's true, about the paperwork, but I still don't trust the Trib much these days. Van Dyke usually is ok though. It's really hard to know. Does Soler have a twitter account?

Carrie Muskat @CarrieMuskat Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#Cubs are interested in Jorge Soler but rumors that team has contract set ** not true**. Lots of teams with interest in Cuban OF

Wonder if Soler's agent has a prior biz relationship with HoyStein?

Soler's agent is Barry Paver-- also Z's agent.

FWIW-- Kap says that reported 4/$27.5 deal is "ludicrous." So add 4/27.5 (=ridiculous - laughable - absurd - funny - comical) to the TCR lexicon. Or if, as I suspect, Kaplan is diametrically wrong as usual, then 4/27.5 means ridiculous but true.

Haha! Um in this case ludicrously high or low?

The Enquirer has a better international desk.

@jorgearangure: On Soler/Cubs. Both sides may have a deal, but would now have to give impression they don't because it's against US and MLB rules
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There it is. I was awaiting Az Phil's input, but I figured there would be at least smoke there

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects...

BA on potential rules violations if there is a deal.

...would be potentially subject to an OFAC fine and, in theory, disciplinary action from MLB.

Even if there is proof on this count, this might just be a slap on the wrist.

I have a feeling this shit would be hard to prove definitively.

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/02/14/ch...

Anyone else been hearing anything about this? First I'd heard of it... Cubs renovation plans might involve sharing Sox' park for a season....

It's so 2/13. Was on the NBC news last night.

Wow, I didn't know anyone still watched the evening news...

i'm a ron paul fan. you can't trust LAMEstream media.

i get my news from ContrailsKill98 and EndTheFedSchoolSucks at youtube like all sane people.

wake up sheeple! (tm)

in the comments of the last thread...

Neighbor works at Cell, said still very much a rumor

this might just be a slap on the wrist.
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Theo under house arrest or just ankle bracelets?

"this might be a slap on the wrist."

According to Nick Cafardo, the Cubs will have to send Soler, Castro and Garza to Red Sox for punishment.

ha.

Nice.

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    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

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    Arizona Phil 2 hours 29 min ago view
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    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

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  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 3 hours 9 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 3 hours 12 min ago view
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    #tcrmartyr

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    #baseballtalk

    Tito 3 hours 13 min ago view
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    johann 3 hours 17 min ago view
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    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 3 hours 29 min ago view
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    #baseballtalk

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    crunch 3 hours 37 min ago view
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    The E-Man 4 hours 55 min ago view
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    VirginiaPhil 5 hours 9 min ago view
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    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 22 min ago view