Game 2 Thread - Garza vs. Gio

Word is that the wind is blowing out briskly to left, so Sveum has loaded up on the righties to battle southpaw Gio Gonzalez in his NL debut.

Nationals Cubs
Desmond, SS Johnson, RF
#Espinosa, 2B Mather, 3B
Zimmerman, 3B Castro, SS
*LaRoche, 1B Soriano, LF
Werth, RF Baker, 1B
DeRosa, LF Soto, C
*Bernadina, CF Byrd, CF
Ramos, C Barney, 2B
Gonzalez, P Garza, P
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Rodgrigo Lopez is the first call-up from the minors, so congrats to those that picked it in our prediction contest. It appears Luis Valbuena is going back through waivers in an attempt to option him to Iowa to make room for Lopez.

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Interesting fact:

The 2007 Draft yielded four round-one picks - that ended up eventually as Cubs, three of which are currently on the club.

One of them turned into the Auto-DL Pitcher, Rich Harden:

2007 Round 1

M. Burgess, J. Donaldson, C. Weathers, J. Vitters

Hopefully one or more of them will become solid Major Leaguers.

fwiw, Donaldson & Burgess were supplemental first round picks, #48 and #49.

Soriano gonna Soriano, leaves Mather at 3B with 1 out.

Wild pitch bails him out.

Cubs 1, Nats 0

Nice to be the team that takes advantage of a mistake for a change.

whoops,

2-run HR off right field pole by LaRoche

2-1 Nats in the 4th

Garza then goes nuts in the dugout.

not sure if he was just yelling at himself, but looked a bit like he was yelling at the ump.

Maybe dude should learn how to bunt instead.

leadoff single by soto, bb by byrd, but barney goes down swinging on 3 pitches.

Garza up now to fail at bunting.

and Garza K's for the second time by bunting foul.

Reed bails them out with a 2-out triple into the right field corner.

3-2 Cubs.

Mather singles in Reed with DeRosa looking very old in LF.

4-2 Cubs.

Side note-- Isn't Mather a younger/better DeRo in training??

if you're delusional, sure.

If you mean Babe Ruth by DeRo then yes.

Yeah, I shouldn't have said better I s'pose.

What I was thinking was later-bloomer super-sub type, and maybe better today.

skinny dick twiple

it's joe mather's world we just live in it.

no hitter for Ubaldo through 6 vs. Toronto

6.2 IP, but gives up 2 walks and finally a single to Lawrie that ties the game.

phew...

2 on, 2 out, Desmond lines one to left that Soriano adventurously caught.

...accidentally caught.

Fixed.

LaHair with a stellar season debut. Popped out on first pitch.

Also, for those interested in this type of stuff: watching the game now on Kindle Fire via MLB.TV app. Works as good as whatever wireless network you are on. Streaming seamlessly now for me. Really surprised me. Allows me to work on the laptop and have the game on next to me (so I don't have to switch between windows, etc.).

DeRosa-in-training looks terrible vs. a righty and K's with runners on 2nd/3rd and 1 out.

up to Castro...

Okay, now you're just being a dick...

=)

Kerry gets the first 2, then an Espinosa HR, Zimmerman broken bat single and LaRoche single with DeJesus playing on the warning track.

4-3 Cubs in the 8th with runners on the corners, 2 outs.

Pitching change

Welcome to your 2012 Chicago Cubs.

Marmol and Wood - the veteran contingent of this ball club.

Neither have a future with the club, both are shadows of their once dominant / overpowering selves, and neither should have been on this roster.

It's the Kerry and Carlos show! Episode 2!

Wood & Marmol giving Nasty Boys a whole new definition.

5 runs with two outs and the bases empty against an offensively mediocre Washington Nationals lineup at home.

At least this team is being nice enough to give us reasons to stop holding out any modicum of hope for the season early.

I wouldn't say they are offensively mediocre.

The Cubs do not have the equal of Zimmerman or Werth at this point.

Two equally logical conclusions there:

1) Nationals are better than mediocre

2) Cubs are worse than mediocre

This seems very accurate!

There must be someone else nicknamed Werth on their team.

Marmol is not missing any bats.

How long before we hear reports of him hiding an injury leading to TJS?

Wow. How hopeless is this team that all is lost and discouraging after just TWO games? Gee, Wood only pitched what, 4 innings in Arizona? I wonder if there was a reason for that, mkay? Marmol sucks eggs and has for nearly two years.

Okay Theo, impress us. DL Wood to save face, demote Marmol or dump him, who cares. Yikes.

Team isn't hopeless at all. In fact - they are showing serious signs of life. Just a bullpen disaster needs to be addressed. Uh, somewhat obviously. Derr

Well, the offense hasn't exactly been stellar so far.

LOL and it takes all of 2 games for Chicken Little to show his face

What will Theo do? He can't like to see this even this early, when this is just the kind of stuff that must be fixed!

hopefully he has a 95mph fastball and can put in 60+ innings...maybe 99+mph if he takes off the suit jacket before taking the mound.

maybe use a do-over card on the marshall trade...

Fuck Marshall. I still like that deal. We're not gonna win anything for reals this year. Torreyes for president!

i don't mind him being traded, but i hate the return.

some people like the minors kids more than me, but t.wood was a useless pickup as a key return, imo.

Travis is gonna be a hell of a lot better than he showed in spring training. But I can't defend against your opinion . . . I consent things don't look good right now.

Two things I did like today were Dollis and early aggressiveness.

As I and others said Monday, get used to this bullpen scene.

So, far, the starters have been quite good. A nice thing.

Most teams 1-2 starters are hopefully good; we'll see beyond that.

cabrerra + fielder = f'n insanity

And no errors or facial fractures. Did Fister get fisted? Only threw 3+ innings.

did something with his side...fell off the mound weird after a pitch and was removed.

@TB - c.pena batting 2nd...m.joyce batting 4th after going 0-4 yesterday with 4Ks.

Gotta say, not as worried about Woody and Marmol after watching the replays on mlbtv. Woody had a cracked bat single on a nasty pitch, and Marmol had an outside pitch pulled through the right side of infield by a lefty. Both are pretty much a bad roll of the dice. I predict both will settle down with warm weather and be fine. Gonna predict 78 wins for Cubs. Lineup will be the weak spot not the pitching.

It'd be nice if Marmol had some success soon. I'm sure he needs some confident building after last season.

He could also use some stat padding if the front office is going to consider dealing him at any point.

He remains one of my favorite recent Cubs.

5.91 era / 1.50 whip after the break last year...he did have a good august...which kinda makes the overall number even more scarey.

"According to Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune, the Nationals are not actively shopping John Lannan and have not talked to the Cubs about a potential deal involving Marlon Byrd."

thank gawd...

i don't care if byrd stays or goes, but this team has enough ass-end-rotation filler to last a few years.

...and wtf is with the crew of writers and blog people who think this guy is a good pitcher?

Byrd looks good though. Helluva catch today!

Bottom 5th: San Diego

- O. Hudson struck out swinging
- J. Bartlett singled to shallow right
- K. Blanks walked, J. Bartlett to second
- C. Maybin grounded into fielder's choice, J. Bartlett to third, K. Blanks out at second
- C. Denorfia walked, C. Maybin to second
- C. Headley walked, J. Bartlett scored, C. Maybin to third, C. Denorfia to second
- J. Wright relieved C. Capuano
- J. Guzman walked, C. Maybin scored, C. Denorfia to third, C. Headley to second
- N. Hundley walked, C. Denorfia scored, C. Headley to third, J. Guzman to second
- S. Elbert relieved J. Wright
- C. Headley scored, J. Guzman to third, N. Hundley to second on wild pitch
- Y. Alonso hit by pitch
- O. Hudson singled to shallow left, J. Guzman scored, N. Hundley to third, Y. Alonso to second, N. Hundley out at home

3 runs scored on walks, 1 on a wild pitch, and 1 on a single that ended the inning
5 walks, 1 wild pitch, 1 hbp.

"Rodrigo Lopez..."

Rob, I'm splitting hairs here, because, well, if I don't care about TCR pride then what do I care about, BUT...

Did the prediction contest say who was the first called up DUE TO INJURY, or did I make that last part up?

I picked R Wells, because I (naturally) assumed the first injury would be to the rotation (Hey Hey! We've made it two games so far!) and Wells is the sixth man in the rotation.

Can't access the form since the 'voting' is closed.

And that would have been italicized instead of all caps, if I knew how to make italics on here from my phone.

There, now this whole incident has made me expose my inadequacies to the group. Thanks Rob.

........

I love it here, even if we DIDN'T have AZ Phil.

As I recalled, it was first person CALLED UP. No "injury" part attached.

Stop conspiring against me just because you had Lopez...

Haha!

Yes!

Who will be the first Cub called up from the minors?

previous question was,
Which Cub that makes the Opening Day roster will hit the disabled list first?

Dammit, there goes another season

Does anybody know why Soriano has resembled an outfielder the first two games? He seems to be tracking the ball really well from what I've seen.

Soriano has looked legit!

Also take note:

Some other teams that are 0-2:

Red Sox
Yankees
Giants
Braves

It's been amazing. That one he caught near the well yesterday, I couldn't help but think there's no way he would've got that last year.

I guess all the extra work with Dave McKay has really paid off.

Reports were, as always, that he's taken a "renewed interest" in the defensive side of the game. I don't know if that's a real explanation, but in the first games he has looked to be in much more control out there. If he can continue to merely be unbaffled, he could be an average left fielder defensively.

It remains or us to see whether he's going to hit this season.

I think he's going to have a good season, though. Comeback Player good. There, I said it.

It would be fun to see him do a comeback thing. He seems like a pretty likable fella and he seems to work a lot harder than the guy who watches sometimes from the batters box would make you think. The key to any comeback is going to be hitting stuff other than fastballs, though. And some seeing eye grounders between second and first. That kind of thing happens, then it's possible.

The key to any comeback is going to be hitting stuff other than fastballs, though.

Like hanging sliders and straight changes down the middle? I have no hope for Soriano ever hitting a decent breaking ball or, more significantly, laying off a decent breaking ball.

are there too many hitters that can hit a decent breaking ball? at best they foul it off or just lay off...of which Soriano certainly does not lay off.

From what I recall, he's actually pretty good, much like Ramirez, at hitting breaking balls in the zone or down. He just drops the head of the bat and gets good power. But anything outside is just a disaster.

some guys make a living swinging/hitting almost nothing but fastballs...those people tend to be very good at actually noticing or guessing a fastball is coming, though...longoria is great at it.

I suppose that's true. Always thought Ramirez was a good breaking ball hitter--but he didn't bite on the terrible curveball a foot off the plate nearly as often as Soriano does, as you noted.

Soriano and Samardzija have both been pleasant surprises in the extremely early going, though.

I expect Wood will come around, but Marmol has never had strike zone control. He's gotten lucky. I wouldn't be surprised to see him struggle all year.

Actually I do think Marmol is a high risk to return to be a real closer. I almost think for Cubs' baseball it is better to get someone who has never done the job and get as many outs from them as possible before they realize how much pressure there is. Once they know (ala Marmol) they are cooked!

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  • I think the Cub Reporter should be politics free.
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    Build Bridges. Don't anyone dare pull out a trump card.

    Cubster 2 min 20 sec ago view
  • The Cub offense is in on the con.

    1-for-10 so far w/RISP.

    billybucks 6 min 47 sec ago view
  • swing and a miss.

    i'm gonna like...go stand over there. *points*

    crunch 7 min 26 sec ago view
  • This is all a long con by Arrieta to lull playoff opponents.

    Rob G. 11 min 9 sec ago view
  • the factual correction on your mistakes on your post that I barely bothered to read the first time because it had nothing to do with anything I wanted to talk about is indeed a sign of my degenerative brain condition. I appreciate the safety tip and will be looking into with extreme urgency now.

    Rob G. 33 min 53 sec ago view
  • it took you 4 posts to get to this?

    have you checked the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector?

    #droppingknowledge #savinglives

    crunch 58 min 30 sec ago view
  • Fwiw, Billy Hamilton's actual WAR numbers that relate to the ones that I posted for Mike Trout are:

    • 2014: 2.5
    • 2015: 1.0
    • 2016: 2.6

    But by all means #crunchsplain on the stupidity of WAR while exaggerating your points. I can't wait to read more.

    Rob G. 1 hour 3 min ago view
  • jacos 1 hour 3 min ago view
  • *stroking intensifies*

    crunch 1 hour 7 min ago view
  • #crunchsplaining

    Thanks for the awesome give and take today and for the 535 words you spilled filling in all the gaps that I woefully neglected. We're all a little wiser and better for it. I look forward to your play-by-play summary later in the comments.

    Rob G. 1 hour 13 min ago view
  • it was about a post comparing players based on WAR...and comparing WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...a post that you made...and i made a comment...that talked about D weighting of WAR...and comparinging WAR values of a CF to a slew of other players...etc etc...

    hell, we didn't even get in deep. i didn't even involve UZR or FIP versions and their strengths/weaknesses...or position mandated "handicapping" in points...etc.

    let's not talk about that...cool, fine, awesome. context sucks. san dimas highschool football rules.

    *shrug*

    crunch 1 hour 21 min ago view
  • Ha

    jacos 1 hour 37 min ago view
  • Thanks for shining a light on this very important topic and steering it away from the frivolity that was the awesomenes of Mike Trout, but moreso on the foolishness of WAR as a metric to judge the value of center fielders. We're all a little wiser now and your contributions are invaluable to this community and to America's pastime. God Bless!

    Rob G. 2 hours 2 sec ago view
  • so...what's chan-yong lim up to these days?

    http://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1088746-korean-le...

    oh...

    crunch 3 hours 24 min ago view
  • yes, those hamilton WAR numbers are very reasonable. i'm on your side now based on that biting commentary and reasoning of why he's a 3.5-ish WAR player over a 600 PA season.

    those numbers are obviously well deserved and worthy of no scrutiny...none at all. no issue.

    CF D is rarer than a jon lester pickoff at 2nd...totally irreplaceable...no way in hell there's good D, low/no-hitting CF's in anyone's system that could do what hamilton is doing. guys like this don't exist...you get like, 2-3 at any given time in history.

    crunch 3 hours 44 min ago view
  • Please do not discuss War here. I think the Cub Reporter should be politics free.

    But yes, whether you support War or Peace...Mike Trout is ridiculously consistent and good.

    blockhead25 6 hours 3 min ago view