Game 11 Thread - Dempster vs. Johnson

After a day off, the Cubs head to Miami for their first series in their new ballpark and the return of Ozzie Guillen after a 5-game suspension, which should bring a healthy dose of national attention to the game.

Marlins Cubs
#Reyes, SS
*Dejesus, RF
#Bonifacio, CF
Barney, 2B
Ramirez, 3B
Castro, SS
*Morrison, LF
Soriano, LF
Infante, 2B
*Stewart, 3B
Stanton, RF
*Clevenger, C
Sanchez, 1B
*LaHair, 1B
Buck, C Byrd, CF
*Johnson, P
Dempster, P


How many strikeouts for Josh Johnson today? free polls 


Always wise to bat three lefties in a row for the later innings. ~shrug~


Interesting that he has LaHair batting 7th. I wonder if Sveum feels like LaHair is the second coming of Dave Kingman.

great article.

it's a bit sweeping, though not much. there is a scrutiny of the pen that's missing in some respects. to keep it recent...brian wilson. sergio romo, by virtue of numbers and effectiveness, should be the 100% no-doubt defacto closer, but the guy's arm is a lot more fragile that people might suspect. him going 2-3 in a row too often is something SF is looking to avoid because they think his arm would fall off. it's kinda similar to how k.wood wasn't being considered to full-time close when there was a c.marmol scare in spring.

overall it's right on...imo, people should be looking for the $5-$7m type closers rather than the $10m+ ones...even if you're a big spending team. there's plenty of guys who can fill that role effectively while $10m contracts are still being shelled out.

flies home for a cortisone injection in shoulder, said to be available by Friday.


Rusin starting for Iowa

Beeler starting for Tennessee

Hi- A Daytona: Szczur 8, Alcantara 6, Andreoli 7, Rohan 3, Jones 0, Bonne 9, Silva 4, Noble 2, Harrington 5, Simpson pitching

Peoria: DeVoss 4, Darvill 6, Lopez 2, Cuneo 3, Easterling 9, Zapata 7, Hernandez DH, Zapenas 5, Chen 8, Francescon 1 #fb

Tennessee rained out.

Simpson rocked for 6 ER in 2.2 IP, 6 H, 4 BB, 0 K, 1 HR.

Dayton down 6-5 though, C. Noble 2/2, Andreoli with a 2B and Elieser Bonne with a HR.

Iowa puts up a 3 spot to start, with a lineup of: Campana 7, Jackson 8, Valbuena 6, Rizzo 3, Cardenas 4, Lalli 2, Sappelt 9, Vitters 5, Rusin 1.

Rusin already has given 2 back and the first isn't over vs. Albuquerque

Daytona down 7-5 in 7th vs. Dunedin, nothing new to report.

Peoria down 5-2 in 5th to Cedar Rapids, Francescon goes 3.2 IP, 2 ER, 3 BB, 1 K. Pin-Chieh Chen with a triple.

1: vs. Colts
2: @ Packers (Thurs)
3: vs. Rams
4: @Cowboys (Mon)
5: @Jaguars
6: Bye
7: vs. Lions (Mon)
8: vs. Panthers
9: @Titans
10: vs. Texans (Sunday night)
11: @49ers (Mon)
12: vs. Vikings
13: vs. Seahawks
14: @Vikings
15: vs. Packers
16: @Cardinals
17: @Lions

Games in order of toughest test: Packers(2) , 49ers, Texans, Lions(2), then a tie between Dallas, Titans. This could have been much worse.

if they can pull off an upset over Packers in Week 2, they can be 5-0 heading into the bye...or 2-3...or somewhere in-between.

@Packers in Week 2 and @49ers in Week 11 are the only games at this moment that look like should-be losses.

they will beat the 49ers, if healthy

this FLA feed is killing me (HD feed on EI)'s been a 1 hour commercial inviting people to come out to the ballpark fighting with a 1 hour hour commercial for Fox Sports personalities + social media.

in between it all they're occasionally talking about the game.

Yeah it's just awful. Just constant chatter about nothing. Though it fits Florida perfectly.

this is getting really silly.

there's entire ABs not being called while they're talking about other stuff or doing interviews or reading twitters about guests...etc etc...

who is it?

FS Marlins annouce crew. you can tell this program direction is coming from "someone" in the booth guiding the direction.

they're doing tons of social media stuff, pimping the park, interviews with workers, interviews with their own FS staff, reading tweets about fluff...they've missed a few ABs while "reporters" were doing stories on things like the Fox Sports Girls at the park and the team shop.

the "guest" is the vice president of something or other from the team who was one of the people who helped design the stadium (not kidding). supposedly a fan wanted more info on this important cog of the 2012 marlins.

"vice president of ballpark development"

...and now they have a mic on him in the booth.

3-2 count on lahair...his name hasn't been mentioned or any of the pitches called.

Though let's be honest. Looking at that empty ballpark after spending so much money they probably need to do all they can to get people.

needs more ozzie kicking soto's mask...and soto pointing and laughing about it.

Haha and they basically have pole dancers doing awful dances. W. T. F.

Lol. is nice sometimes. Good to be able to hear Len and Bob.

Does Marlon Byrd look a lot smaller this year? I know he was really into body building...I wonder if he's had to cut back on his "body building" which might have something to do with this awful hitting?

I think he switched to taebo, so now he's lean amd mean

I think they said he was down 40 lbs. from last season. Food allergies to gluten and milk products were discovered in the offseason. So he changed his diet in addition to the taebo or whatever it was. No mention of Victor Conte.

Thanks, didn't hear that. Every time I see him, I forget who he is...

I'd like to forget I ever saw him.

kind of like the bs that swirls around the stretch singers @ wrigley for a half inning each on radio & tv...

pretty much.

bounces into a productive out...seemed more luck than purposeful.

2nd/3rd with 0 outs and bounces a 3-2 pitch to the second baseman to score a run and advance Castro to 3rd.

cubs pitchers are the most awesome defenders in the game.

4 hours of pitcher's infield practice for everyone the next month!

paid off today...

Dempster throws away one for the marlins first run, Josh Johnson running.

1-1 in the 5th

DeJesus shows off his arm with a weak ass throw that can't nail the pitcher trying to score from 2nd. Do get Bonifacio in a rundown to end inning though.

2-1 Marlins after 5.

can't run tonight, either.

DeJesus then gets thrown out at 2b trying to advance on a wild pitch that didn't bounce away from Buck.

Ugh to me the steal (or the aggressive base running) is one of the most overrated aspects of the game. Seems like for the majority of players who try it it ends up backfiring more than it ends up helping. We'd have bases loaded or a score at this point if he hadn't tried running.

And Soriano coming back down to being him:-(

if you told me when he signed that soriano would be hitting cleanup for the cubs in 2012 i'd be thrilled at how awesome that contract actually turned out.

this is like some twilight zone twist...

gonna be a long season...

Well, to be fair, that was just bad luck. The ball hit the dirt and kicked away and you are taught to take off on those. The chances of the catcher recovering and throwing you out, especially if you go right away when you see the pitch headed for the dirt are very low. 19 times out of 20 Dejesus is safe. This one hit someones foot or something and bounced straight up the in air and Buck caught it standing up all ready to throw. Lucky bounce is all.

At this rate, Dempster is going to be a 0-11 All-Star starter.

Clevenger continues to double, 1 out in the the 7th.

Let's see the Cubs not score this run.

ooooooooooo safe!

and wtf is lahair still doing at 1st?

LaHair singles Clevenger home, looks like he just beat tag. Nice throw by Bonifacio.


i mean, there's being aggressive and there's being stupid.

wow. lahair fail sb.

it's like a team of Ryan Theriot's.

LaHair almost picked off, then tries to steal before Johnson even lifts his leg and he just steps off and throws him out.

Have I mentioned how much I hate stealing?

ah, great news, the Cubs go to their strength, the bullpen!

Dolis in for the 7th.


Dolis survives the 7th.

2-2 to the 8th, XM radio for me the rest of the way.

know it's a night game but is marlyn wearing his shades @ the plate? he should change his name to ray Charles or Stevie wonder... 059 ain't bad for a blind man!

That's marlyn bord in your program...

Barney boots a routine grounder. Clevenger passed ball, then a walk.

8th inning going well so far.

Hanley goes boom. 5-2 marlins.

Ugh stupid error. I guess though as bad as this is to watch I never had great expectations for this season and support the rebuild so I've been able to find more positives than some people. We got some very good starting pitching, good hitting at spots and what looks like some good hitting coming up to take over spots where we need help. Bullpen help can be found, imo, easier than a lot of other stuff so as bad as it is for us it doesn't seem like a long time worry if we do well at other places.

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  • That was good!

  • Well said. On one hand, I thought the HBP was a bad baseball play -- down 4 runs, put a runner on for a red-hot Fowler. On the other hand, they needed to do something -- I hadn't thought about the warning/pitching inside point. Is Hurdle that smart? He does not strike me that way. By the way -- not clear which fan base you are referring to in your "first" 3rd point.

  • My unsolicited opinions on topics covered in this thread:
    1. I hate the fact that after 162 games, a team could be out after 1 game. However, I think the system is pretty close to perfect right now. 2 of 3 isn't feasible unless they shorten the regular season, and it ices the division winners for way too long. This creates excitement, and rewards the division winners.

  • Personally, I think the game could have had a very different look had the Pirates held onto the ball and tagged Fowler out on the steal in the first. Cole was clearly frazzled, but if they took that runner off the base, it could have relaxed him a lot.

  • Football games are played once a week. There are 16 games a year. I'm not even remotely following at all how you can compare the two leagues and playoff systems. It is physically impossible to play a home and away series. The idea of not having any road games in baseball playoffs is certainly a head scratcher.

    How is not having the first and last game at home a benefit for the division winners and team with the best record? How is it not an incentive to win the division when a WC team has to blow their top pitcher?

    Call me lost.

  • Two 97+ win teams in a do-or-die, great bullpens, overpowering starters, plenty of pop--hard to believe that game wouldn't be tense. A 4-0 lead is not a blowout, especially in that situation and with the Cubs' young bullpen. Not only would a defensive play here or there make a difference, but you get the win there also on the home plate umps strike zone (generous strike calls for Arrieta, including a couple Ks), and on Schwarber sitting on the right pitch at the right time.

  • Unbeleivable Dodgers:
    I just noticed the Dodger's payroll today. It is just absurd. $300,000,000+!!
    Here is where just some of their money is for 2015:

    Some "Highlights"
    Carl Crawford $20MM
    Brandon McCarthy $17MM
    Bronson Arroyo $3.5MM
    Darwin B $2.2MM
    Dan Haren $10MM
    Matt Kemp $18MM
    Brian Wilson $10MM
    Ryan Webb $2.2MM
    Dee Gordon $2.5MM

  • So I think tomorrow will be the most important test of how far we can go. We can win it all with two pitchers since Arietta has shown he can carry over his success to the post season. If Lester can be dominant also then I think we can go far no matter how Hendricks or Hammel do.


    And in terms of pitching just went through to see how we could maximize Lester and Arietta and came up with this (Lester would be going on 4 days rest three times and Arietta twice):

  • i still can't believe that crawford contract (7/142). all that loot and years for a LF'r who's entire hitting game revolves around his legs and line-drive power. those triples that raised his value are deceptive as hell to his true power, but it helped him get paid.

    there's also pause about a guy who's ob% is almost totally driven by hits rather than walks. BOS got lucky unloading that crap deal.

  • I think the Cubs take Berry and Soler off playoff roster and add Hammel & Ramirez. Believe Maddon will find Denorfia & Jackson defense too hard to lose.

  • O & B: I like the one-game Wild Card heart attack game, but I'd actually like to see a best two-out-of-three LDS played in the home parks of the two division winners with the best records, and then the LCS as a best two-out-of-three in the home park of the division winner left standing with the best record, and then let's get to the World Series already. 

  • I...don't know. If chanting would help the Cubs beat the Cardinals in the next series or ultimately the World Series I think I'd be ok with it lol. I'm not supportive of saying insulting things to opposing fans or throwing things but loud noise and chanting seems appropriate to me.

    I also grew up in France though and that kind of thing is par for the course at soccer and rugby matches and I love it. I find crowds too passive here.

  • Er, they won the first one. My bad. Carry on.

  • With last night's win in Pittsburgh, the Cubs have tied the Pirates with 98 wins, and are only 2-1/2 games behind the Cardinals. No reason why the Cubs can't finish the post-season with the best winning percentage in baseball (regular season & post-season combined).