Game 17 Thread - Garza vs. Garcia

The Cubs get their chance to make up some ground....I can't even finish that sentence with a straight face. How about? Cubs get the World Champs again and a chance to lose another series. Better.

Iowa already played today and loss to the Cardinals AAA affiliate, Memphis 6-2 at home. Jay Jackson with yet another poor outing, 5 IP, 4 ER, 0 K, 1 BB, 8 H. B. Jackson goes 2/4 with a SB, Rizzo 2/3 with a 2B and a BB and W. Castillo 1/4 with an RBI. The other minor league matchups include:

Dallas Beeler vs. Chattanooga (Dodgers): Soto 6, Watkins 4, Ha 8, Ridling, Mota 7, Burgess 9, Samson 5, Brenly 2, Beeler 1

Zach Cates vs. Lakeland (Detroit - Jacob Turner happens to be starting):  Szczur 8, Torreyes 4, Perez 9, Rohan 5, Jones 3, Andreoli 7, Silva 0, Noble 2, Alcantara 6

Jose Rosario vs. Lansing (Toronto):Devoss 4, Zapata 9, Cuneo 3, Hoilman 0, Davis 2, Easterling 8, Darvill 5, Hernandez 6, Gonzalez 7

Cardinals Cubs
#Furcal, SS
*DeJesus, RF
*Schumaker, CF
Barney, 2B
Holliday, LF
Castro, SS
#Beltran, RF
Soriano, LF
Freese, 3B
Baker, 1B
Molina, C
Soto, C
*Carpenter, 1B
Johnson, CF
Greene, 2B
Mather, 3B
*Garcia, P
Garza, P

Michael Bowden is with the team and they DFA'd Rodrigo Lopez to make room on the roster for him. Also, Kerry threw in the outfield today and claims to be feeling much better.

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Iowa already played today and loss to the Cardinals AAA affiliate, Memphis 6-4 at home.
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Don't get so excited, the Iowa offense isn't that good. Final was 6-2 according to the box score I read.

indeed, my bad.

oh good, Garza up to fail at bunting

miracles!

gets it down after making a nice defensive play as well earlier.

4 IP, 0 H, 2 BB, 0 K for Turner against Daytona.

Cates gave up 3 ER in 4 IP.

Lakeland also has Castellanos on that team.

crunch and i are in parachat

don't all rush in at once

it claims I'm the only one in there.

it was a very short parachat session...mostly involving the inevitable 2014 cubs rotation of lincecum/c.hammels/garza/j.moyer/?? and the world series matchup of the chicago cubs vs. las vegas athletics.

No way the Theo team will pay the necessary salary to get Moyer. If we had Hendry and could give a 7 year deal, maybe. But not Theo.

the new TV deal will give the cubs about 100 kazillion dollars a year...at least.

Moyer will then tell stories of playing in the days before TV deals boosted salaries. And before TVs televised games.

Hawks are on

THWACK!!! POW!!! BOOM!!!

Yes, Ron Artest wants to play hockey, too!

What an AB by LaHair. Now Soto will eff it up.

Just as I was about to lament on why isn't Stewart hitting for Mather.

Sweet.

Mather swung on at least a dozen planes all at once on that hit.

Spittin up my Chinese food on that one, The Joe!

he can at least move his bat once he puts it in motion. if stewart could/would do it he might not sit for 29 year old journeyman joe mather.

Stewart is crushing the ball (mostly at people right now). Don't agree with you crunch.

i am way more than willing to let him prove (or disprove) what i think of him before getting into an april argument over the guy.

his quality of contact is crap, it was crap last year...he's a pure mistake hitter...yadda yadda yadda

I'm so confused by this post.

rather than argue the merits of how good he is/will be in april it's a lot easier to stand by old statements and let stewart's work speak for itself after he keeps showing what he's got.

i don't think the guy's issue with balls in play is going to get better based on how he swings a bat even though he's been robbed of a few.

others do...

there's not much to do with it at this point because you're working with 50ab's and few that doesn't already have an opinion are gonna be swayed toward any side.

CUBS!!!!!!!

FREE JOE MATHER!

bow down to your new god, Joe Mather.

Jeff Baker saw 8 pitches all night.
LaHair 12 in his one at bat.

/seen enough of the lefty slayer baker

LaHair is so composed. That was like an old Billy Buckner at bat! Loved it ...

My man crush on LaHair grows.

My hope that some team might come calling for Baker flickers.

I don't think Game 6 is going to OT

Fucking torture. Shots were 30-8 Hawks at one point and down 2-0. Then they get embarrassed. Was Hayes' hit dirty? What did Kane do? I assume he told the refs they sucked . . .

Darvish 1.81 whip

Cespedes 20 K's in 55 at bats

Adjusting to the league? Or indicators of weakness?

Cespedes still can't hit a breaking ball, but he punishes fastballs. I think of him like getting Soriano in his prime years with less speed.

I don't know about Darvish, some whispers that he's being squeezed. From what little I've seen, he nibbles a lot, but that seems to be common with Japanese pitchers.

Not to take anything from Mather, but as Rob said above, that was a great AB by LaHair. Free LaHair!

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  • kuhl is a righty, not a lefty.

    i think maddon might think kuhl is a lefty, too. i wonder what the reasoning is for baez leading off vs a rightie.

    crunch 2 min 16 sec ago view
  • "trout's one of the best, and at this point should probably win over donaldson (and should have more MVPs in the past, too), but the defensive aspect of valuing WAR still needs more tweaking...imo."

    that's from my 1st post. there's no suck involved in that. maybe with a few less posts about bullshit that point would have jumped out more.

    crunch 49 min 36 sec ago view
  • crunch - you do know that, taking defense out of the equation, Trout has led the AL in wRC+ each of those years, right?

    And, if you want to complain about position adjustment (which would be serious #crunchsplaining), he's been in the top 3 in the AL in WC (not park/league/position adjusted). And the only players ahead of him (if there were any players ahead of him) in any of those years have been DHs or 1B that play lousy defense.

    But sure - Trout sucks (or at least isn't as good as WAR says). Because it factors in defense and position.

    big_lowitzki 1 hour 54 min ago view
  • early tim tebow stuff rolling in...

    ran a 6.7 60yd (above average)...shagging flies in RF and showed off a rather impressive arm a few times, but average-at best on most of his throws...hit a few over the fence (both fields), fouled or weak contact a few...he's got a touch of power

    it'll be interesting to see who bites on this project, if anyone. he probably projected himself out of RF and into LF/1st because of his arm, but unless he can make that power work on a steady basis it'll be hard for him to play himself up anyone's system.

    crunch 2 hours 39 min ago view
  • LHP Clayton Richard (released by the Cubs earlier this month) is pitching very well as a starting pitcher for the San Diego Padres and could be a good candidate to get traded to a contender looking for a veteran SP before tomorrow night's post-season roster eligibility deadline.

    Because they released him, the Cubs are paying most of Richard's 2016 salary (the Cubs are on the hooks for $2M, minus the pro-rated portion of the MLB minimum salary that is paid by the Padres).

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 26 min ago view
  • it is honestly awesome (for real) that anyone would even have a strong opinion on AZL playoffs. i guess if you invest enough time watching it, you want to see a fair/just playoff structure.

    plus, the kids deserve it.

    crunch 4 hours 27 min ago view
  • The AZL team with the best record over the course of the full 2016 AZL season and the only AZL team to play .600 ball (the AZL Dodgers) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, and the AZL East Division team with the best record over the course of the full season (the AZL Athletics) did not qualify for the AZL playoffs, either. 

    That's because of the ridiculous "split season" schedule most of the minor leagues now play, a stupid system that rewards mediocrity at the expense of the worthy. 

    Arizona Phil 4 hours 33 min ago view
  • Despite good movement on his fastball, I think location kept him from getting Ks. Left some pitches up and away that got hammered up and away. Then of course Travis Wood gave up the 2-run double in the 7th, but both runs counted against Arrieta.

    Charlie 5 hours 10 min ago view
  • "i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date."

    This level of discourse is #charming.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 10 min ago view
  • I would be having this discussion with anyone who (a) blathered on ad nauseum about the topic. (See, "Olt, Mike, not given an opportunity") or (b) responded directly to what I posted (which you did).

    Have a nice day.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 13 min ago view
  • what would you do without me? aside from having your posting content here cut by 75%+?

    i'm gonna make you my main squeeze one day, bro. save the date.

    crunch 5 hours 16 min ago view
  • In this instance, yes, I care more about the result of this big thing that isn't really a big thing.

    #crunchsplaining

    #willlistentojeffsullivanmorethanyou

    #blessyourheart

    #hitler

    #tcrmartyr

    #billyhamiltonwar

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 17 min ago view
  • Two things:

    Fangraphs WAR #s include baserunning and Hamilton is elite at that. He leads in SBs with the 54 and and has an 87% rate which is really good. I'm sure once he gets on base he's able to take the extra base quite often too. Both those things will up his overall WAR value.

    The differences between BR and FG WAR is pretty well documented online and thus If there are discrepancies it's fairly easy to figure out why. It's fairly well accepted that BR WAR is fine as a snapshot but FG is better at predicting future value.

    johann 5 hours 21 min ago view
  • i have no doubt at all you quit reading at that point. you're very enamored with outcomes without caring what it takes to get there.

    the fact it's exploitable, especially without someone to cover the running game for him, as well it's evolution in how people are testing possible exploits is interesting to some people...to me...i'm some people...hurrah.

    some people want to check the boxscore to see who won, some want to know how it went down.

    crunch 5 hours 33 min ago view
  • I read it as him saying it's not really that much of a concern and that the one time it really cost Lester, vs. K.C., was an anomaly.

    #baseballtalk

    Tito 5 hours 39 min ago view
  • if jeff says it, it's cool...when i say it, it's straight from the mouth of hitler.

    aside from the lack of jeff touching on the insane leads runners take and lester's inability to throw if he's fielding, this is a lot of what i've said about the issue.

    exploitable, needs his own personal catcher to control his shortcomings, relies on his ability to get outs along with his personal catcher keeping runners in check before things become further exploited...

    crunch 5 hours 41 min ago view